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Quote from: Enjoyed on Feb 07, 2018, 17:54

Just to be clear with this one - we're talking about a version that's different to the 'In The Company of The Chemical Brothers' one?
That would actually be it - there's the officially released Fight The Drabs mix and the possibly different version as broadcast on Colin Murray In The Company of The Chemical Brothers. I have no idea if they're different from each other, since I've just read rumors that they literally sampled Numbers in the broadcast version, and they definitely didn't in the officially released version.

Do you have a recording of the broadcast?
Never for money, always for love.

PM'd ya.

It's only a 128kbps recording though I'm afraid.
dancesoitallkeepsspinning

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Feb 04, 2018, 17:35


Problem/Question (aka The Animal Track)
Heard - Played live in 2005, updated version played in a few 2006 DJ sets, and pressed on a rare few records, one of which was obtained by Fake Blood who put a few seconds of it on a minimix in 2009.


So I know for a fact Justin Robertson has a copy in his record bag. He played NYE 06/07 at Turnmills. Still to this day a great piece of Chemical music I've heard and really annoyed that it hasn't been released.

Quote from: UltimatePelmeni on Feb 06, 2018, 17:41

What about Pumisher's Erection Song?
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Feb 06, 2018, 23:51

HA, forgot about that. I did add it, can anyone find a video of it?

This list should be set up with audio samples of each track sometime.
I just delved into the archive where I found the New Comprehensive List started in 2013. It's funny to see some of the old speculation we got right and some that we didn't. Some of my comments in the latter pages look positively naive.
Anyway some of the links still work, some don't. But all three Erection Song (aka Need Your Soul) clips still work.

The more I listen to the track the more I think: old 80's electro tune, so i guess I'm agreeing with WN. I actually had a quick look through the Street Sounds Electro compilations to see if any track titles might fit with "Need Your Soul". I also had a very quick listen to the first three (embedded) albums but nothing jumped out at me. Other tracks that appear on these compilations have made it into Chems DJ sets in the past, such as: Rockmaster Scott's "The Roof Is On Fire", and Freestyle's "Don't Stop The Rock". So maybe it's in there, or maybe not.

IT'S MORNING TIME!

maybe one day they release that song - and name it "pumishers erection song".
no idea, no idea

Holy shit, WN! That was amazing. <3

Pumisher's Erection Song, teehee  :D
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

@WN

Dopeness on a Pill
Just Dust
Just Say Yo

may i ask where you got these sources? im very intrigued at this yet excited that there's tracks that never made it.

about the trespass movie,imo i feel that Tom just did 'filler' music. i saw the film and didnt notice anything stand out music-wise in the film. i think he just composed bg music to create a sense of drama,action,tension to lift and improve the scenes of the movie. nothing else and nothing close to chemically related.

EDIT

btw, love what you done to the unreleased chems list! well done!

btw2 im considering opening a twit acct just to ask joe satriani about that loops of fury track.
This is up there. Like, Star Guitar up there.

Quote from: inchemwetrust on Feb 12, 2018, 01:55

@WN

Dopeness on a Pill
Just Dust
Just Say Yo

may i ask where you got these sources? im very intrigued at this yet excited that there's tracks that never made it.

From one of my favorite interviews, I think it's the earliest, in the Oct 94 issue of Jockey Slut, which was midway through the writing of the album and has loads of descriptions of early mixes and in progress prototype album details, even an early concept for the album art. Here it is in the spoiler tags for compression:

Spoiler

Jockey Slut interview

by John Burgess
October 1994 Issue 9


The Dust Brothers have been the talk of the town this year churning out
a wad of down tempo acid house records with big boots on and causing
riots wherever they DJ. John Burgess joins them at the Heavenly Sunday
Social before heading off to the studio to check tracks on the
forthcoming album.

Ed - "I think it's a bit ironic what we do."

Tom - "I don't think it's at all ironic."

James Dean Bradfield, Tim Burgess, Saint Etienne, Evan Dando, Liam and
Noel Gallagher, Bobby Gillespie and Paul Weller. Just a few of the names
spotted with a pint and a pie at the Heavenly Sunday Social, home to a
couple of hundred twenty somethings who have rediscovered the benefits
of lager, amyl nose-up and the buzz for aggro dancing, whooping and
hollering as their weekly hosts, Tom Rowlands and Ed Simmons, mix up
that heady brew that has been termed Trip hop' but is probably more
accurately described as Dust Brothers-esque.

If Oasis are the best thing to happen to rock 'n' roll in many a year,
the Dust Brothers are flying a flag with viva Acid House scrawled on it
in very large letters. Early 1994 was looking grim: twenty minute trance
tracks and deadly serious prose in the press, insipid pop handbag and
DJs, once heroes, immersing themselves in an industry that finds worth
in repackaged re-released triple pack crap, which is why 'Chemical
Beats' was the biggest shot in the arm for the tired, jaded and ripped
off. It was raw, it was tuff and it didn't fit in in anyones t o o l,
sand or hand bag. Suddenly '94 looked pretty cool.

Tom - "We thought Chemical Beats was just an amazing tune and when we
got the test pressings of it and gave it to these people they just
didn't play it. Ed - "Then Darren Emerson, Andy Weatherall and Justin
Robertson starting playing it and everyone starting going mad over it.",

Tom - "That has gone down as a good record. A good end of night tune.
Good any time of the night tune. You can't follow it. What do you play
after that eh?"

Ed - "Manic Street Preachers."

The Dust Brothers formed in a dark pub cellar sometime in 1992,
someplace in Manchester. Tom and Ed had always teetered on the cutting
edge of good music be it the Mary Chain, Schooly D, the Jamms, joining
the queue for the house fest at Nude or stage diving at Most Excellent.
They became the Dust Brothers by night DJing for fun rather than
financial gain. Naked Under Leather was the name of their club
attracting a hundred like minded souls to crappy 'venues' either above
or below pubs, claustrophobic and smokey with a strobe flickering for so
long that epilectics got bored of having fits and joined in the fun.
Special Brew was the narcotic as the Naked punters rejected the cities
abused drug culture and took to drinking with great verve before pogoing
to the sounds the would form a blueprint for Tom and Ed's studio work,
what they mix up on the decks is the spirit they capture on vinyl:
shouty hip hop with ruff arsed baselines the hooligan house sounds of
'baggy' and noisey down-tempo acid house records. And now they're making
an album.

Tom - "Making an album's a bit of a weird thing. More tracks.... Making
a dance album people actually want to listen to is difficult."

Ed - "With dance albums you usually pick off a couple of tracks you like
and that's it."

Tom - "Do not let our album gather dust."

Crammed in Orinocho Studios in the Elephant and Castle, Tom and Ed are
on Day Three of a fortnights work on their debut. Titles flying around
at the time include 'Dopeness on a Pill', 'In Dust We Trust', 'Just
Dust' and 'Just Say Yo!'. On the floor are a pile of records that
include Mudhoney, Jungle Brothers, Three Johns, Mercury Rev, Sonic
Youth, Pavement, Sabres of Paradise. On the wall is a progress chart for
the albums ten tracks. From left to right it has the following columns:
'Working Title/ Drums/ Bass/ Anything Else?' - the essential ingredients
for a Dust Brothers record. In the Drums column for a track called
'Jabba' is the criticism 'a bit polite on the hi hats' but the bass is
apparently 'pill friendly'. On the track 'Delik' Tim Burgess from the
Charlatans is pencilled in as a possible vocalist. Rubber Lips
apparently digs the Dusters and the feeling is mutual. The album is jam-
packed with samples, lots of guitar riffs thieved from indie albums
though hidden with much studio trickery to avoid the pay off. "I don't
think you should take people's main hooks or main ideas from their songs
but I like the idea you can have all these people jamming on your
record," Tom says of the art. Their engineer Dubby selects 'Jabba' for
an aural airing, I write down 'acid hip hop, machine gun drums, guitar
breakdowns, tub thumping finale, more aggressive than S*M*A*S*H, music
for the jilted generation who still take X.' Bit polite on the hats
though...

Ed - "Chemical Beats is described as trip hop, but to me it's a techno
record in the mould of any techno record but it's got a chunky break on
it."

Tom - "It's an acid house record."

The next track we hear is 'Delik' ("As in psychedelic," Tom informs).
Amidst the space noises is that ancient word 'Jackie' repeated over. It
stops, it starts, it screams and it includes a middle eight of sheer
weirdness. There is, a lot more going on in the mix than on their
previous EPs. The only other tracks we hear today is Briefcase Boogie.
It is about two minutes long and features samples thieved from last
nights telly.

Tom - "I like things that are noisy."

The album is sounding very Dust Brothers-esque. It will delight those
that bought the EPs 'Fourteenth Century Sky' and 'My Mercury Mouth' but
will probably not silence their critics, those that think that all you
have to do to make a Dust Brothers record is pour some acid over a hip
hop beat, those that think all their records and remixes sound the
same, those that seem to have forgotten about the blissful 'One Too Many
Mornings' or 'If You Kling To Me I'll Klong You'. It is an accusation
that riles them. "That's our style," Tom argues. " If you listen to our
Prodigy mix and our Primal Scream mix and say they are the same then
you're deaf. I like them. You should see how many we've turned down.
They say we've done too many remixes but I think they've all been really
good." "K-Klass have done about seventeen," Ed points out. They've
turned down Deelite, Fatima Mansions, Echobelly, Massive Attack and
Consolidated. Why do Consolidated want you to remix them?

"I don't know?" shrugs Tom. "It's cool. Because we've got a bit of
attitude on our records"

"More than K-Klass," adds Ed.

It's probably to do with the fact that being music fans Tom and Ed have
taken up remixes for the Scream, Charlatans and the Manics. They like
pop music, it's not some ironic gesture. It's also something they have
been criticised for, for not being part of the clique that think Rock n
Roll is dead because techno reigns supreme. The Dust Brothers are part
of the open minded school of thought that actually believe in that often
quoted phrase from 'Come Together': "Music is Music..." It is this
widespread appeal and eclectic audience that could make the Dust
Brothers very famous indeed. People who like Richie Hawtin like the Dust
Brothers. People who don't like Richie Hawtin like the Dust Brothers.
When I ask Ed what will happen when they get really famous he shrugs "We
won't". Then he tells me this:

"We were the answers to a competition on Radio One. It was on the Evening
Session. There was a competition to win a ticket to a Big Rave and the
question was 'Who are Tom Rowlands and Ed Simons' and some girl in
Sunderland got it right and won."

"Big respect to her," says Tom.

They also went to the States back in July to Orlando. Thinking they were
just the promoters little whim they were surprised at how many yanks
knew 'Chemical Beats'. "We played live to 4,000 people. We had a rave,"
says Ed. Tony Di Bart and Hyper Go Go had played at gigs before them so
it is no surprise that the Dusters were mobbed for autographs. The real
mckoy.

Tom and Ed are two kids from the right side of town coming on like
they're from the wrong. Fans of their scary brash noise probably
expected them to look like a couple of skate kids, tattooed and scarred
from hanging 'round the chippy late at night In reality they are more
likely to go round to Saint Etiennes house for a cup of Earl Grey and a
bun. This is their appeal. Like Wiggs, Stanley and Cracknell the Dust
Brothers are more pop than anything else. The album will be a musical
collision of all the best moments they've absorbed over their
adolescence: 'Postcard Pop', 'Psychocandy', 'Yo Bum Rush the Show',
'Rhythim is Rhythim', 'Check Yer Head' packaged under a top pop title
like 'Dopeness on a Pill' with a carefully thought out sleeve that
combines their fascination with the urban and their middle class
backgrounds. They could shape up into the British Beastie Boys if
they'll let themselves. And if they could rap.

They've already got that Rather Be Somewhere Else/Bizarre In Humour
interview technique down pat. They have a trainspottery secret language.
"Doing a Dave Angel" was Ed throwing up from nervousness before going on
stage. "Doing a Moby" was Ed going mad behind his keyboard. And Tom
occasionally drops into a mock street patois. "Summat Tasty" seems a
favourite term. "Super cooper trooper," another.

Tom - "The album sleeve is of a nice girl in a field. With Dust Brothers
spray painted on her."

Ed - "Nice girl with scrawling on her."

Tom - "A mix of the urban and the Rose Cottage. It's important when you
buy a record, that it's a good thing to own."

Though the Dust Brothers have been lumped with the media-hype 'Trip Hop'
alongside some of the Mowaxers and the Strange Brew crew, they stand out
because of their sense of fun. They are charismatic and people notice,
especially when DJing they might drop a Happy Mondays record ahead of a
scorching Schooly D track. Wherever they have DJed recently they turn
what could be quite a scary, abrasive, noisey set into an air punchin'
party. It's usually their own records that do the trick, that leave
punters gob smacked, convince the old 'uns to go out clubbing again,
that have Melody Maker going a bit over the top and comparing the Sunday
Social to Shoom.

Ed - "We're young, we're friends we have a bit of a laugh. I think
people have tapped into that."

Tom - "What I think about our music is that it has a human element, it's
quite emotional but not in a Detroit emotional way, it's got more
sweatiness, more clubbiness."

Someone said you sound like you could do with another day in the studio.
And that's the point.

"Yeah. Things are quite messy, quite raw," Tom concludes. "I like things
that sound a bit wrong."

The Dust Brothers - sounding wrong, getting it so right.


The Remixes:

Lion Rock - Packet of Peace (Deconstruction)
Scary wailing wifey {as used on Song to the Siren) returns to add some
scary wailing during the breakdowns. A robot shouts "Lion Rock Sound
System!". The bass and the weird shit factor are both cranked up high.
The laidback MC Buzz B is forced at knife point to join in at the end.

Ariel - T Baby (unreleased Deconstruction)
Tom's old balearic band gets the Brothers overhaul with some live stop/
start bass-playing from Thomas. You can hear his fingers scraping along
the bass strings. Cool. Jon Pleased Wimmin used to play this.

Swordfish - The Get On (Pandephonium)

Leftfield/ Lydon - Open Up (Hard hands)
Bettered Weatherall's mix and overshadowed the original. Snatches of Mr
Rotten, big beat breakdowns and guitar powerchords. In a scary minor
key.

The Sandals - Feet (Open Toe)

Primal Scream - Jailbird (Creation)
As played by The Scream at Reading (from DAT). A bassline gets pissed
and gets a tattoo with 'sleaze' etched on its arm. Bobby G is cut down
to a few 'Damn Rights!!' before some motor car horn shrieks in. Some
Hammond organ joins the shouty bit giving it a more uplifting, less
scary, rather partyish arms aloft vibe.

Deep Throat - Mouth Organ

Republica - Out of this World (Deconstruction)

Saint Etienne - Like A Motorway (Heavenly)
The winsome Ms Cracknell drinks Tom and Ed under the table insisting her
full vocal is kept in the the mix. Pete Wiggs snorts amyl whilst Bob
Stanley watches from side stage as the Brothers do their stuff.
Allegations of Dust Brothers mixes all sounding the same start to drib
in from stupid people.

Justin Warfield - Pick It Up Y'All (Warner Bros)
Who Co-Conspired? Asks Justin. "It's the Dust Brothers!' replies robot
man from the Packet of Peace mix. A slow, low, funky ace-bassline driven
record. People fight to get a copy. That's an instruction.

Charlatans - Patrol (Dead Dead Good)

Bomb the Bass - Bug Powder Dust (Island)

Prodigy - Voodoo People (XL)

Manic Street Preachers - La Tristesse Durera (Columbia)

I'll try to make my archive of interviews available online somewhere if someone asks!


Quote from: Joslyn on Feb 09, 2018, 15:48

So I know for a fact Justin Robertson has a copy in his record bag. He played NYE 06/07 at Turnmills. Still to this day a great piece of Chemical music I've heard and really annoyed that it hasn't been released.
I'll add that bit of info.


Quote from: inchemwetrust on Feb 12, 2018, 01:55

btw2 im considering opening a twit acct just to ask joe satriani about that loops of fury track.
Do it


Quote from: Enjoyed on Feb 07, 2018, 18:44

PM'd ya.

It's only a 128kbps recording though I'm afraid.
Thanks mate! Didn't turn out to be a different version, the homages to Numbers were the same as on record. I'm gonna remove it from the list.
Last Edit: Feb 12, 2018, 22:25 by WhiteNoise
Never for money, always for love.

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Feb 12, 2018, 04:05

From one of my favorite interviews, I think it's the earliest, in the Oct 94 issue of Jockey Slut, ...

Spoiler

Jockey Slut interview

by John Burgess
October 1994 Issue 9


The Dust Brothers have been the talk of the town this year churning out
a wad of down tempo acid house records with big boots on and causing
riots wherever they DJ. John Burgess joins them at the Heavenly Sunday
Social before heading off to the studio to check tracks on the
forthcoming album.

Ed - "I think it's a bit ironic what we do."

Tom - "I don't think it's at all ironic."

James Dean Bradfield, Tim Burgess, Saint Etienne, Evan Dando, Liam and
Noel Gallagher, Bobby Gillespie and Paul Weller. Just a few of the names
spotted with a pint and a pie at the Heavenly Sunday Social, home to a
couple of hundred twenty somethings who have rediscovered the benefits
of lager, amyl nose-up and the buzz for aggro dancing, whooping and
hollering as their weekly hosts, Tom Rowlands and Ed Simmons, mix up
that heady brew that has been termed Trip hop' but is probably more
accurately described as Dust Brothers-esque.

If Oasis are the best thing to happen to rock 'n' roll in many a year,
the Dust Brothers are flying a flag with viva Acid House scrawled on it
in very large letters. Early 1994 was looking grim: twenty minute trance
tracks and deadly serious prose in the press, insipid pop handbag and
DJs, once heroes, immersing themselves in an industry that finds worth
in repackaged re-released triple pack crap, which is why 'Chemical
Beats' was the biggest shot in the arm for the tired, jaded and ripped
off. It was raw, it was tuff and it didn't fit in in anyones t o o l,
sand or hand bag. Suddenly '94 looked pretty cool.

Tom - "We thought Chemical Beats was just an amazing tune and when we
got the test pressings of it and gave it to these people they just
didn't play it. Ed - "Then Darren Emerson, Andy Weatherall and Justin
Robertson starting playing it and everyone starting going mad over it.",

Tom - "That has gone down as a good record. A good end of night tune.
Good any time of the night tune. You can't follow it. What do you play
after that eh?"

Ed - "Manic Street Preachers."

The Dust Brothers formed in a dark pub cellar sometime in 1992,
someplace in Manchester. Tom and Ed had always teetered on the cutting
edge of good music be it the Mary Chain, Schooly D, the Jamms, joining
the queue for the house fest at Nude or stage diving at Most Excellent.
They became the Dust Brothers by night DJing for fun rather than
financial gain. Naked Under Leather was the name of their club
attracting a hundred like minded souls to crappy 'venues' either above
or below pubs, claustrophobic and smokey with a strobe flickering for so
long that epilectics got bored of having fits and joined in the fun.
Special Brew was the narcotic as the Naked punters rejected the cities
abused drug culture and took to drinking with great verve before pogoing
to the sounds the would form a blueprint for Tom and Ed's studio work,
what they mix up on the decks is the spirit they capture on vinyl:
shouty hip hop with ruff arsed baselines the hooligan house sounds of
'baggy' and noisey down-tempo acid house records. And now they're making
an album.

Tom - "Making an album's a bit of a weird thing. More tracks.... Making
a dance album people actually want to listen to is difficult."

Ed - "With dance albums you usually pick off a couple of tracks you like
and that's it."

Tom - "Do not let our album gather dust."

Crammed in Orinocho Studios in the Elephant and Castle, Tom and Ed are
on Day Three of a fortnights work on their debut. Titles flying around
at the time include 'Dopeness on a Pill', 'In Dust We Trust', 'Just
Dust' and 'Just Say Yo!'. On the floor are a pile of records that
include Mudhoney, Jungle Brothers, Three Johns, Mercury Rev, Sonic
Youth, Pavement, Sabres of Paradise. On the wall is a progress chart for
the albums ten tracks. From left to right it has the following columns:
'Working Title/ Drums/ Bass/ Anything Else?' - the essential ingredients
for a Dust Brothers record. In the Drums column for a track called
'Jabba' is the criticism 'a bit polite on the hi hats' but the bass is
apparently 'pill friendly'. On the track 'Delik' Tim Burgess from the
Charlatans is pencilled in as a possible vocalist. Rubber Lips
apparently digs the Dusters and the feeling is mutual. The album is jam-
packed with samples, lots of guitar riffs thieved from indie albums
though hidden with much studio trickery to avoid the pay off. "I don't
think you should take people's main hooks or main ideas from their songs
but I like the idea you can have all these people jamming on your
record," Tom says of the art. Their engineer Dubby selects 'Jabba' for
an aural airing, I write down 'acid hip hop, machine gun drums, guitar
breakdowns, tub thumping finale, more aggressive than S*M*A*S*H, music
for the jilted generation who still take X.' Bit polite on the hats
though...

Ed - "Chemical Beats is described as trip hop, but to me it's a techno
record in the mould of any techno record but it's got a chunky break on
it."

Tom - "It's an acid house record."

The next track we hear is 'Delik' ("As in psychedelic," Tom informs).
Amidst the space noises is that ancient word 'Jackie' repeated over. It
stops, it starts, it screams and it includes a middle eight of sheer
weirdness. There is, a lot more going on in the mix than on their
previous EPs. The only other tracks we hear today is Briefcase Boogie.
It is about two minutes long and features samples thieved from last
nights telly.

Tom - "I like things that are noisy."

The album is sounding very Dust Brothers-esque. It will delight those
that bought the EPs 'Fourteenth Century Sky' and 'My Mercury Mouth' but
will probably not silence their critics, those that think that all you
have to do to make a Dust Brothers record is pour some acid over a hip
hop beat, those that think all their records and remixes sound the
same, those that seem to have forgotten about the blissful 'One Too Many
Mornings' or 'If You Kling To Me I'll Klong You'. It is an accusation
that riles them. "That's our style," Tom argues. " If you listen to our
Prodigy mix and our Primal Scream mix and say they are the same then
you're deaf. I like them. You should see how many we've turned down.
They say we've done too many remixes but I think they've all been really
good." "K-Klass have done about seventeen," Ed points out. They've
turned down Deelite, Fatima Mansions, Echobelly, Massive Attack and
Consolidated. Why do Consolidated want you to remix them?

"I don't know?" shrugs Tom. "It's cool. Because we've got a bit of
attitude on our records"

"More than K-Klass," adds Ed.

It's probably to do with the fact that being music fans Tom and Ed have
taken up remixes for the Scream, Charlatans and the Manics. They like
pop music, it's not some ironic gesture. It's also something they have
been criticised for, for not being part of the clique that think Rock n
Roll is dead because techno reigns supreme. The Dust Brothers are part
of the open minded school of thought that actually believe in that often
quoted phrase from 'Come Together': "Music is Music..." It is this
widespread appeal and eclectic audience that could make the Dust
Brothers very famous indeed. People who like Richie Hawtin like the Dust
Brothers. People who don't like Richie Hawtin like the Dust Brothers.
When I ask Ed what will happen when they get really famous he shrugs "We
won't". Then he tells me this:

"We were the answers to a competition on Radio One. It was on the Evening
Session. There was a competition to win a ticket to a Big Rave and the
question was 'Who are Tom Rowlands and Ed Simons' and some girl in
Sunderland got it right and won."

"Big respect to her," says Tom.

They also went to the States back in July to Orlando. Thinking they were
just the promoters little whim they were surprised at how many yanks
knew 'Chemical Beats'. "We played live to 4,000 people. We had a rave,"
says Ed. Tony Di Bart and Hyper Go Go had played at gigs before them so
it is no surprise that the Dusters were mobbed for autographs. The real
mckoy.

Tom and Ed are two kids from the right side of town coming on like
they're from the wrong. Fans of their scary brash noise probably
expected them to look like a couple of skate kids, tattooed and scarred
from hanging 'round the chippy late at night In reality they are more
likely to go round to Saint Etiennes house for a cup of Earl Grey and a
bun. This is their appeal. Like Wiggs, Stanley and Cracknell the Dust
Brothers are more pop than anything else. The album will be a musical
collision of all the best moments they've absorbed over their
adolescence: 'Postcard Pop', 'Psychocandy', 'Yo Bum Rush the Show',
'Rhythim is Rhythim', 'Check Yer Head' packaged under a top pop title
like 'Dopeness on a Pill' with a carefully thought out sleeve that
combines their fascination with the urban and their middle class
backgrounds. They could shape up into the British Beastie Boys if
they'll let themselves. And if they could rap.

They've already got that Rather Be Somewhere Else/Bizarre In Humour
interview technique down pat. They have a trainspottery secret language.
"Doing a Dave Angel" was Ed throwing up from nervousness before going on
stage. "Doing a Moby" was Ed going mad behind his keyboard. And Tom
occasionally drops into a mock street patois. "Summat Tasty" seems a
favourite term. "Super cooper trooper," another.

Tom - "The album sleeve is of a nice girl in a field. With Dust Brothers
spray painted on her."

Ed - "Nice girl with scrawling on her."

Tom - "A mix of the urban and the Rose Cottage. It's important when you
buy a record, that it's a good thing to own."

Though the Dust Brothers have been lumped with the media-hype 'Trip Hop'
alongside some of the Mowaxers and the Strange Brew crew, they stand out
because of their sense of fun. They are charismatic and people notice,
especially when DJing they might drop a Happy Mondays record ahead of a
scorching Schooly D track. Wherever they have DJed recently they turn
what could be quite a scary, abrasive, noisey set into an air punchin'
party. It's usually their own records that do the trick, that leave
punters gob smacked, convince the old 'uns to go out clubbing again,
that have Melody Maker going a bit over the top and comparing the Sunday
Social to Shoom.

Ed - "We're young, we're friends we have a bit of a laugh. I think
people have tapped into that."

Tom - "What I think about our music is that it has a human element, it's
quite emotional but not in a Detroit emotional way, it's got more
sweatiness, more clubbiness."

Someone said you sound like you could do with another day in the studio.
And that's the point.

"Yeah. Things are quite messy, quite raw," Tom concludes. "I like things
that sound a bit wrong."

The Dust Brothers - sounding wrong, getting it so right.


The Remixes:

Lion Rock - Packet of Peace (Deconstruction)
Scary wailing wifey {as used on Song to the Siren) returns to add some
scary wailing during the breakdowns. A robot shouts "Lion Rock Sound
System!". The bass and the weird shit factor are both cranked up high.
The laidback MC Buzz B is forced at knife point to join in at the end.

Ariel - T Baby (unreleased Deconstruction)
Tom's old balearic band gets the Brothers overhaul with some live stop/
start bass-playing from Thomas. You can hear his fingers scraping along
the bass strings. Cool. Jon Pleased Wimmin used to play this.

Swordfish - The Get On (Pandephonium)

Leftfield/ Lydon - Open Up (Hard hands)
Bettered Weatherall's mix and overshadowed the original. Snatches of Mr
Rotten, big beat breakdowns and guitar powerchords. In a scary minor
key.

The Sandals - Feet (Open Toe)

Primal Scream - Jailbird (Creation)
As played by The Scream at Reading (from DAT). A bassline gets pissed
and gets a tattoo with 'sleaze' etched on its arm. Bobby G is cut down
to a few 'Damn Rights!!' before some motor car horn shrieks in. Some
Hammond organ joins the shouty bit giving it a more uplifting, less
scary, rather partyish arms aloft vibe.

Deep Throat - Mouth Organ

Republica - Out of this World (Deconstruction)

Saint Etienne - Like A Motorway (Heavenly)
The winsome Ms Cracknell drinks Tom and Ed under the table insisting her
full vocal is kept in the the mix. Pete Wiggs snorts amyl whilst Bob
Stanley watches from side stage as the Brothers do their stuff.
Allegations of Dust Brothers mixes all sounding the same start to drib
in from stupid people.

Justin Warfield - Pick It Up Y'All (Warner Bros)
Who Co-Conspired? Asks Justin. "It's the Dust Brothers!' replies robot
man from the Packet of Peace mix. A slow, low, funky ace-bassline driven
record. People fight to get a copy. That's an instruction.

Charlatans - Patrol (Dead Dead Good)

Bomb the Bass - Bug Powder Dust (Island)

Prodigy - Voodoo People (XL)

Manic Street Preachers - La Tristesse Durera (Columbia)

So do we know what track "Jabba" became?
I'm assuming "Briefcase Boogie" never made it on to the album, but the description "It is about two minutes long and features samples thieved from last nights telly", reinforces my thoughts on the "when you start hating you're out of control" sample. It's probably just something they sampled off the TV, so the chances of ID-ing that sample are, I imagine, pretty slim.
IT'S MORNING TIME!

Quote from: Skyscraper on Feb 12, 2018, 20:36

So do we know what track "Jabba" became?
Three Little Birdies Down Beats judging by the "machine gun drums" description. Sneakerbeater confirmed Jabba = TLBDB in an old post, I bet his knowledge comes from this source and same conclusion, but maybe he has another way of knowing.

Must a really early version since when did Three Little Birdies have guitar breakdowns in it?

Quote from: Skyscraper on Feb 12, 2018, 20:36

I'm assuming "Briefcase Boogie" never made it on to the album, but the description "It is about two minutes long and features samples thieved from last nights telly", reinforces my thoughts on the "when you start hating you're out of control" sample. It's probably just something they sampled off the TV, so the chances of ID-ing that sample are, I imagine, pretty slim.
Briefcase Boogie = Playground for a Wedgeless Firm.

In another interview one of them confirms the samples in Playground were taken from the television, and the briefcase name comes from a piece of gear (someone help me with the name) they used to process said samples, it's a synth that folds up into a briefcase-like thing with a handle they ran a live TV audio feed through.

Also, 2 minutes.
Last Edit: Feb 12, 2018, 22:11 by WhiteNoise
Never for money, always for love.

cool '94 interview but...

Quote
Crammed in Orinocho Studios in the Elephant and Castle, Tom and Ed are
on Day Three of a fortnights work on their debut. Titles flying around
at the time include 'Dopeness on a Pill', 'In Dust We Trust', 'Just
Dust' and 'Just Say Yo!'

this could also be read as possible titles for their debut.

Exit Planet Dust, what with how stuff like The Matrix came out a few years after, was definitely the right choice of name for the album. Sort of that post-society thinking
i love chem bros omg!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Feb 04, 2018, 17:35

Hold Tight London (Mix 2)
Unheard and disputed - Sneakerbeater listed a Mix 2 of Hold Tight London in his bonus disc wishlist for a third greatest hits collection. The rest of his listed tracks are confirmed to exist, and Sneakerbeater might know something we don't as he usually does, but it might just be wishful thinking based on the live version.

Great list WN!

I'd love a version of this similar to that from Trafalgar Square. Blew me away on the night, and listen to it regularly...

I've updated as I just realized I forgot a huge one - the early version of It Began In Afrika with the Pioneer Skies drums, that they used to DJ with in 2001-2003. There's an audience recording of a set from that era where they played it out there, I think it's their Centro-Fly set.

Stay tuned, as there's a reason I've just remembered this...
Last Edit: Apr 13, 2018, 08:23 by WhiteNoise
Never for money, always for love.

It's funny, I now realize they didn't use the IBIA vocal sample in that centro-fly set as they did in the Asagiri set which they played a month earlier that year.

As for unreleased chemicals, I've got a short tv commercial sound bite which I downloaded like 15 years ago and which was "advertised" as VW Jetta Chemical Brothers. Can anybody verify if they ever did such a thing?
Here's the mp3( attachments don't semm to work for me with these type of files...).

https://www.sendspace.com/file/tlqblk
"You cannot eat money, oh no. You cannot eat money, oh no. When the last tree has fallen and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no."
— Aurora (The Seed)

Quote from: Csar on Apr 13, 2018, 09:52

Can anybody verify if they ever did such a thing?

Hmmm, doesn't sound Chemical enough for me, more like a stripped down or well produced demo version of an Kid Loco track or something. But then again they've suprised me now and than with tracks i'm not prepared for (Taste Of Honey anyone?)



edit:

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Apr 13, 2018, 02:52

Stay tuned, as there's a reason I've just remembered this...

I stayed tuned for more happy days, but i cannot resist any longer - give us that goddamn shit now!
no idea, no idea

Quote from: ThePumisher on Apr 13, 2018, 11:04

I stayed tuned for more happy days, but i cannot resist any longer - give us that goddamn shit now!
When and if I can - I'm staying tuned too.
Never for money, always for love.

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Apr 13, 2018, 02:52

Stay tuned, as there's a reason I've just remembered this...

I know what you are referring to as I saw that a couple of months back!

I doubt you'll ever see a fully release version of this version of Afrika as it is essential 4 songs mashed together. The only way I could ever envisage it being released would be on a brother gonna work it out vol 2 but I can't see that happening unfortunately.
In nature there are neither rewards nor punishment- there are consequences

Quote from: ThePumisher on Apr 13, 2018, 11:04

Hmmm, doesn't sound Chemical enough for me, more like a stripped down or well produced demo version of an Kid Loco track or something. But then again they've suprised me now and than with tracks i'm not prepared for (Taste Of Honey anyone?)
It reminded me a bit of The Get On remix in some way.
"You cannot eat money, oh no. You cannot eat money, oh no. When the last tree has fallen and the rivers are poisoned, you cannot eat money, oh no."
— Aurora (The Seed)

Are they somehow involved in the Deadly Class soundtrack? The official Brothers Instagram account liked a short making of from the series... (I like rumours  ;))
no idea, no idea

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