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Title: Books
Post by: Stefan on Sep 04, 2015, 21:28
We have threads about movies, series, games, lots of threads about music, so why not one about books?
Post here about books which you have read, which you loved, hated, which you want to read and so on. If you write any spoilers, please use the board function so that people don't accidently read them.

I'll start with this book which I've read recently:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GQ%2BdofhgL._SX327_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

The author writes about his encounters with people who have  unconventional or absurd worldviews. He also tries to unravel and explain certain psychological mechanisms and fallacies (such as confirmation bias, cognitive dissonance, ...) and does not forget to mention that we all are susceptible to these. I highly recommend it!


Right now I'm reading this:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HYs6odAGL._SX323_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

The Final Discorld novel.  :'(



P.S: Comics are welcome here, too!

Title: Re: Books
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 04, 2015, 21:38
Anything by Haruki Murakami.

Especially The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, his short stories collections (The Elephant Vanishes, After The Quake and Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman) and Dance Dance Dance, which is where that amazing collection of letters is taken from.
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Title: Re: Books
Post by: Bendy1001 on Sep 05, 2015, 15:29
I've always wanted to read some Terry Pratchett books, and I probably will some day. Discworld seems like too much to choose from though, and I don't know which one would be the best to start with. I think I should read Hitchhiker's Guide first, then decide if I want more.
I'm currently reading Watchmen. I loved the movie when I was a kid, and I still think it's great, but I'd heard it pales in comparison to the original comic. I'm not one to impulse buy, but when I saw the graphic novel version on display in a bookstore, I couldn't resist. I'm about halfway through at the moment and I was kinda unsure how much I'd like it since I already know the plot from the movie, but there's so much that makes it just fascinating to read. Every panel is so well thought out, and I love all the details, like Rorschach stealing all the sugar cubes from Nite Owl's apartment. I don't read a whole lot of comics, but it's the best comic I've ever read, and I don't know if it counts as a book, but if it did, it would be one of the best books I've ever read.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 05, 2015, 15:38
Quote from: Bendy1001 on Sep 05, 2015, 15:29

I've always wanted to read some Terry Pratchett books, and I probably will some day. Discworld seems like too much to choose from though, and I don't know which one would be the best to start with. I think I should read Hitchhiker's Guide first, then decide if I want more.

You know Hitchhiker's Guide is by Douglas Adams, right?

If you want a place to start with Pratchett, I'd recommend Carpet People. It's not part of the Discworld series but it gives you a really great sense of his writing style. And it's not overly long either.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Stefan on Sep 05, 2015, 16:03
Maybe this helps choosing a discworld novel: http://de.scribd.com/doc/278398369/Discworld-ReadingGuide-Infographic
I'd recommend Guards, Guards, Mort, Amazing Maurice, Wee Free Men or Small Gods as your first novel. Adams and Pratchett are often compared to each other, but I think that Pratchett wrote better narratives. Daouglas Adams' best work is, in my opinion, "Last chance to see", where he writes about his journeys with the biologist Mark Carwardine to visit animals on the brink of extinction. There is also a great documentary TV series with Stephen Fry and Carwardine "based" on the book.

I agree on Watchmen, it is really great, both the comic and the movie. If you want recommendations for comics, you should check out the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman.
The Saga series by Brian Vaughan and Fiona Staples is worth a look, too. It's a blend of sci-fi and fantasy (a bit like Star Wars), but with much more gore and sex. What's also great about it is that the well-written characters don't fall into the classic good/bad categories.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Bendy1001 on Sep 05, 2015, 16:15
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 05, 2015, 15:38
You know Hitchhiker's Guide is by Douglas Adams, right?
Wow. Yeah, I remember that now. I honestly have no idea how I made that mistake.
Well now I look like a bloody idiot.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 05, 2015, 16:48
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Title: Re: Books
Post by: Biff on Sep 05, 2015, 19:31
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 04, 2015, 21:38

Anything by Haruki Murakami.

Especially The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, his short stories collections (The Elephant Vanishes, After The Quake and Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman) and Dance Dance Dance, which is where that amazing collection of letters is taken from.
↓↓↓↓
I just finished reading every Murakami book (except his first one, which was just rereleased in hardback [I can't justify $25 for a 130 page book]). Wind-Up Bird is my favorite, 1Q84 is a good second, Dance, Dance, Dance was a good one despite never being mentioned in people's favorite Murakami books. What an amazing author, now moving on to read Raymond Carver!
Title: Re: Books
Post by: WhiteNoise on Sep 05, 2015, 19:55
I'll forever be hyping this book:

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/expanse/images/3/39/Leviathan_Wakes_(first_edition).jpg)

Extremely well written sci-fi grounded in reality and easily one of the best new book series of all time. Like reading a really well done blockbuster movie. Five books in so far, and they don't diminish in quality at all. Each book plays with a mix of genre tropes - for example the first book is somewhere between noir mystery, Firefly-style space opera, and zombie survival movie. Syfy is making a TV show out of it and it's looking like the best thing they've had since Battlestar Galactica. It comes out in December. I highly recommend picking up the book or at least watching the show when it comes out.

Pratchett is very much on my to do list to read. Book club time!
Title: Re: Books
Post by: rynostar on Sep 06, 2015, 01:22
Yeah, BOOKS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RjaDAGB2p4

Wait...I'm in Grad School now...I read a few books a week...DAMN!
Title: Re: Books
Post by: ACIDCHILDREN on Sep 06, 2015, 07:48
Currently reading A Song of Ice & Fire series, it's better than the show.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Sep 07, 2015, 14:12
Best place to start, in my opinion, with Discworld novels is Equal Rites.
It combines wizards, witches and night watch, three major characters story-lines in one book.
Dirk Gently's holistic detective agency is great book by Douglas Adams,  followed by Long Teatime of the soul, often in shadow of much more popular HGTTG. It's clever, dark, extremely funny. There is also Salmon of doubt, his last book, unfinished, contains parts of third story of Dirk Gently.
Last chance to see  is also funny book, quite different from his usual SF comedy routine, with few unforgettable stories (trying to get condom for underwater microphone to record Yangtze river dolphins had me laughing out loud).
Recently I bought  Hermann Hesse's Das Glasperienspiel (The Glass Bead Game), somewhere known as Magister Ludi, work of his I adored as a teen, and was surprised how 'heavy' this book was and how hard it was for me to get inside that world of his.
I'm getting old...
Also, I finished The Witcher books,  Lady of the Lake being last one I could get my hands on. Not sure if those books would ever get my attention if it where not for games.
Right now, I'm off to immerse myself in Terry Pratchett's last gift to humanity -  The Shepherd's Crown.
Last one and with Tiffany in the spotlight. Can't ask for anything better. Thanks, Terry.
Btw, Stefan, are you finished with it?
Ok, now I'm really off, can't wait anymore.   Discworld awaits.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Stefan on Sep 07, 2015, 15:05
Yes, I already finished it. I thoroughly enjoyed it and wouldn't mind if the book was 100 pages longer.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Stefan on Oct 23, 2015, 21:25
Recently read this brilliant work by Bertrand Russell (original title: History of western philosophy):
For those who are interested in philosophy, but don't really know where to start, this is a good place. He summarizes around 2500 years worth of philosophical ideas and how they influenced and were influenced by social, cultural, scientific and political ideas.
(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1327781381l/3252210.jpg)


Currently:
(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1347243100l/428210.jpg)


And up next:
(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1410890998l/23093367.jpg)
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Joslyn on Oct 23, 2015, 23:50
Quote from: ACIDCHILDREN on Sep 06, 2015, 07:48

Currently reading A Song of Ice & Fire series, it's better than the show.

Couldn't watch the show, it's so slow. Stopped reading the books, the are even slower.

I'm reading Scott Snyders first 2 Batman books. Well written and he is adding to the Wayne origins without screwing with continuety.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: chemreact on Oct 24, 2015, 08:25
Quote from: ACIDCHILDREN on Sep 06, 2015, 07:48

Currently reading A Song of Ice & Fire series, it's better than the show.
Finished reading it last month. I'm a slow reader sometimes so it took me a while but definitely better than series. So much of the world hasn't been shown!
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Bendy1001 on Oct 25, 2015, 17:33
(http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1344702847l/15821931.jpg)
Been reading this lately. It's about an apocalypse where the whole of Brisbane is covered in man-eating Jam. It's pretty funny and has some really unique ideas.
I can definitely recommend for a bit of light reading.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: whirlygirl on Oct 28, 2015, 02:42
It warms my heart to see Terry Pratchett fans. He's one of my husband'so favorite authors (my husband is a much more avid reader than I - he can blow through 400 pages in one sitting and has read every book on our shelf multiple times whereas I tend to hang on every word as it forms images, worlds, and films in my mind's eye).

I recently read Heart Shaped Box by author Joe Hill. He's Stephen King's son and has inherited the gift of story telling in the horror genre. Next, I'll finish NOS4A2 which is by the same author. Also entertaining in the graphic novels arena is the Fables series which I was turned on to not too long ago. Takes the whole fairy tale fantasy to a much more grown up level.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: ThePumisher on Oct 28, 2015, 15:01
The last books i've spent time with are:
Matias Faldbakken - Macht und Rebel
Zadie Smith - London N-W
Dave Eggers - The Circle
Timur Vermes - Look who's back
Sebastian Fitzek - Passagier 23
Giulia Enders - Gut: The inside story of our body's most underrated organ
James Bowen - A street cat named Bob

Currently reading:
Tom Wolfe - The electric kool-aid acid test

Books on hold for the future:
Mark Bowden - Killing Pablo
Douglas Adams - Dirk gently's holistic detective agency
Douglas Adams - The long dark tea-time of the soul
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Oct 28, 2015, 17:40
Quote from: ThePumisher on Oct 28, 2015, 15:01


Currently reading:
Tom Wolfe - The electric kool-aid acid test

Ah yes, I read that one a long time ago. Supposedly the inspiration for the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour.
Once I had read it, I felt obliged to read Ken Kesey's One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. Which was very enjoyable despite the fact that I had already seen the (Jack Nicholson) film.

Do you read the originally-English books in English or German Pum?
Title: Re: Books
Post by: ThePumisher on Oct 28, 2015, 17:57
Quote from: Skyscraper on Oct 28, 2015, 17:40

Do you read the originally-English books in English or German Pum?
I read all of them in german. As far as i remember the only three books i have read in english are Requiem For A Dream, The Hobbit & Trainspotting
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Nov 27, 2015, 09:19
Interesting, I don't like reading books in Croatian, so many things get lost, even in best of translations, so I prefer original, where available :D

Recently I found book by Umberto Eco, titled Belief of Nonbelief?,  which is a dialogue Umberto had with Carlo Maria Martini, cardinal at Holy See, which started as a series of articles, first Martini published article in some Italian newspapers, and got Umberto, declared atheist, response which in turn lead to a series of articles that deal with religion, abortion, ethics...

Way that dialogue was carried is something to aspire to, since it's not every day you get to see a Catholic cardinal and declared atheist  carry a civil, respectful and, above all, brilliant dialogue that touches upon so many painful subject both to men of religion and thinkers like Eco, and from which you can learn quite a lot.

There is even a 'legend' that people wrote to editors of Italian papers to request both from Martini and Eco to try to be little less 'heavy', since they found text quite philosophical and, at times, hard to follow, but worry not; while book is not a light read, it's not Summa Theologica :)

Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Dec 05, 2015, 12:31
Quote from: Stefan on Oct 23, 2015, 21:25

Recently read this brilliant work by Bertrand Russell (original title: History of western philosophy):
For those who are interested in philosophy, but don't really know where to start, this is a good place. He summarizes around 2500 years worth of philosophical ideas and how they influenced and were influenced by social, cultural, scientific and political ideas.
(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1327781381l/3252210.jpg)

This is great recommendation, Stefan,  just reading this, it offers a 'bird-eye' view of philosophical thought, something not easily found in literature, thanks!
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Oct 07, 2016, 11:19
My kindle is longing for some new material, I would very much appreciate any recommendation, if anyone have some :)
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Oct 07, 2016, 12:09
Quote from: sandelic on Oct 07, 2016, 11:19

My kindle is longing for some new material, I would very much appreciate any recommendation, if anyone have some :)

THIS  (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Substance-Inside-Order-Peter-Hook/dp/1471132404/ref=pd_sbs_14_t_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7K8WD4A92JC3C1N69BGS) came out yesterday. Not that I've read it yet...(review HERE. (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/05/substance-inside-new-order-peter-hook-review))
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Stefan on Oct 07, 2016, 15:44
Quote from: sandelic on Oct 07, 2016, 11:19

My kindle is longing for some new material, I would very much appreciate any recommendation, if anyone have some :)
I don't know whether they're available as ebooks, but here are some of my recent picks:
(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1388197028l/3326436.jpg)    (https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1469529938l/31225894.jpg)
(https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1457525442l/29468564.jpg)   (https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1388505766l/254499.jpg)
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Oct 07, 2016, 22:57
Guys, thanks for your suggestions!
Books you recommended are quite interesting, no doubt I'll have a blast reading them.
I skimmed through reviews on Amazon, I think I'll start with 'The Philosopher's Toolkit'.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Jan 22, 2018, 12:44
Did any of you knew that there is a 6th book in Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy trilogy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Another_Thing..._(novel)

Not written by Adams, but reviews are really good and I'm hyped!

I cannot believe that I overlooked it, and can't wait to start reading it...  :)
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Stefan on Jan 22, 2018, 19:18
Might be a great reason to start the series all over again :D
Title: Re: Books
Post by: Stefan on Sep 11, 2018, 14:59
So, while I've been reading mostly popular science, philosophy and non-fiction in recent years, I also love to read fantasy/Sci-Fi.
Recently I finished "The Fifth Season" by N.K. Jesmin:

(https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1386803701l/19161852.jpg)

And oh dear goodness, is it great. The author builds a fantastic but believeable world, complete with history, culture and conflicts, and inhabits it with great characters (in contrast to, for instance, J.R.R. Martin, the focus is only on a few people, so their storylines are better to follow throught the book).
The book is the first part of a trilogy, all of which have won the prestigious Hugo Award btw, I really look forward to reading the next books in the near future!
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Sep 12, 2018, 09:48
Interesting, I'll take a look at it, especially because you praise it so much.

Btw, I just finished The Blade Itself by British author Joe Abercrombie, it's first book in trilogy called The First Law.
(https://books.google.hr/books/content?id=pvVSwRWXerEC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE73ovD5xiKlQwW00oJ5TZtTf596j2H4Hk4VIDK8jqnmMYI0ks2r2QgWbB0MJRbs6eTHBMoxHrYVffUEFUTd8cy5Dn2t1JLm5pSiI-WQtMbMAPILtp3L-lGBErIbWCYo9vmEiLKIW)
While setting reminds of medieval Europe, characters are surprisingly modern in way they think and behave. Story itself is full of gritty scenes and violence, as one could expect from that setting.
But book really is character driven, which is odd. Almost always books like this are story driven.
I can't wait to start reading 'Before they are hanged' - book two. I'll hold my judgement until I've read whole trilogy. Suffice to say I'm intrigued to see how it'll end. Would recommend.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: ThePumisher on Nov 01, 2018, 15:51
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Title: Re: Books
Post by: Charco on Nov 02, 2018, 20:59
Quote from: sandelic on Jan 22, 2018, 12:44

Did any of you knew that there is a 6th book in Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy trilogy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Another_Thing..._(novel)

Not written by Adams, but reviews are really good and I'm hyped!

I cannot believe that I overlooked it, and can't wait to start reading it...  :)

Hey Sandelic, did you get around to this? What did you think of it if so?

I'm currently on book 5 of The Expanse series. So far so good, about a 1/3 of the way through, so things are starting to pick up storywise.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 02, 2018, 23:07
Quote from: Charco on Nov 02, 2018, 20:59
I'm currently on book 5 of The Expanse series. So far so good, about a 1/3 of the way through, so things are starting to pick up storywise.
Oh, hell yes. I would love to read that book again for the first time.
Title: Re: Books
Post by: sandelic on Nov 06, 2018, 13:20
Quote from: Charco on Nov 02, 2018, 20:59

Hey Sandelic, did you get around to this? What did you think of it if so?

I'm currently on book 5 of The Expanse series. So far so good, about a 1/3 of the way through, so things are starting to pick up storywise.

Sorry, didn't see your post.
Yeah, I've read it. Storywise, it's clever, funny, even dark at times. But it's painfully obvious that someone else finished a book Douglas Adams started.

I'm not trying to say that job was badly done; if anything, Eoin Colfer did impossible, he managed to emulate Adam's style pretty closely and did us all a great service by finishing Adams' book. Otherwise, we might never see it in any form. It's much, much better written that Salmon of doubt, that really is a hot mess of unfinished 3th book in Dirk Gently series.

But it's different from your usual HHGTTG books. It's pacing is different. There is little of that feverish insanity that imbues much of Adams' work. Truth to be told, even later entries in HHGTTG lost some of that hilarious insanity and became quite mellow, like in So long and thanks for all the fish, so even that is not much of a critique. If that is not a problem for you, you'll enjoy it.