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Title: Big Beat
Post by: Nils VIP on Aug 28, 2015, 20:24
So, does anyone have any good big beat album recommendations (except Chems/Fatboy)? Stuff I have to hear.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Nekcore on Aug 28, 2015, 22:07
Indian Ropeman -  Elephantsound

The Herbaliser ‎– Blow Your Headphones

Headrillaz ‎– Coldharbour Rocks

Resident Filters ‎– Big Train

The Ballistic Brothers ‎– London Hooligan Soul

Deejay Punk-Roc ‎– Chicken Eye

Soul Of Man ‎– Between The Eyes

Bentley Rhythm Ace ‎– Bentley Rhythm Ace (and For Your Ears Only)

Psychedeliasmith ‎– Different Folks For Different Strokes EP

Hardknox ‎– Hardknox

Cut La Roc ‎– La Roc Rocs

Lo-Fidelity Allstars ‎– How To Operate With A Blown Mind

Space Raiders ‎– Don't Be Daft

Environmental Science (Every Ep till 1999)

And if you can get it, there's some compilations albums like: Brassic Beats Compilations, Big Beat Elite Compilations, Beats by Dope Demand Compilations, Give'em Enough Dope Comps, Dope on Plastic Comps, and many more that I don't remember at the moment.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Ben_j on Aug 28, 2015, 22:58
Properllerheads - Decksandrumsandrockandroll
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woJRUts7_C0

Bentley Rhythm Ace - Bentley Rhythm Ace
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXVR7P4TyE

Jon Kennedy - Useless Wooden Toys
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHAIGyhTpns

David Holmes - Let's get killed
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UncPhOluYtA

Overseer - Wreckage
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaI7PDSRELY

FC Kahuna - Machine says yes
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemOlfDYupY

Death In Vegas - Dead Elvis
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apZXyd4Hbw0

Roudoudou - Listener's Digest (well it could arguably be called downtempo/trip hop but it still has a strong big beat influence)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbOHJxTXf_o

Pepe Deluxé - Super Sound
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAYoyFrpjho
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Enjoyed on Aug 28, 2015, 23:37
^^^^ ALL OF WHAT THEY SAID ^^^^

But especially Propellerheads, FC Kahuna, Indian Ropeman and Bentley Rhythm Ace. Some of my favourite albums of all time.

Those Big Beat Elite compilations go for nice and cheap on eBay if you are looking for them.

Get yourself any of the first three FSUK CDs too.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: UltimatePelmeni on Aug 29, 2015, 00:22
Is The Crystal Method's Vegas in deal? Or my recommendation is too obvious? :-[
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Csar on Aug 29, 2015, 10:41
Cirrus - Drop the Break / Back on a Mission / Counterfeit
Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBSNGDTAQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSh2fYhIQz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYQMg6AgJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-_rjQwmuY8

Propellerheads - DecksDrumsAndRockAndRoll
Torpedo Boyz - Headache Music
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytfrhBWJDM

Mint Royal - On the Ropes
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6No3rMIzS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oco_4dwBjPs

The Wiseguys - The Antidote / Executive Suit
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g742x_WzqZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRnvufbd1Jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn64d08Ryk8

ILS - Bohemia / Idiots Behind the Wheel / Paranoid Prophets / Soul Trader (a great great artist, highly recommended!)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UieH96RiEwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UK9NRGSV8I

In Alium - Troubadour E.P. (recently discovered, big beats mixed with medieval music)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFc7j4aJpVQ

Bonobo - Animal Magic / Dial M for Monkey (maybe not strictly punchy big beat but similar)
Pretty Lights - A Color Map of the Sun (various styles but also big beatish tunes on it)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzOVoqlR5Qg

RJD2 - In Rare Form (mainly hip hop sounds but all instrumentals, they have something in common, I guess, recommended: The Polyphonic Spree - Soldier Girl (Rjd2 Remix), also RJD2's Breezblock Mix)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se2ji7J6ZWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ__i9PQHU0

Skeewiff - It's All Gone
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIF070uaumk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xbZ0Jx-0QQ

Wagon Christ - Musipal (maybe a bit more trip hoppish, but oh well)
Some Rae & Christian might also be of interest
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Ben_j on Aug 29, 2015, 20:43
Quote from: Enjoyed on Aug 28, 2015, 23:37

Get yourself any of the first three FSUK CDs too.
Oooh yes, those are pure gold. Fatboy Slim's "On the floor at the boutique" mix album too, it's probably my favourite Big Beat mix.

Edit : oh yeah the Wiseguys album. How could I forget that one ?
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: ACIDCHILDREN on Aug 29, 2015, 20:48
It's not really big beat but I would recommend checking out Plump Dj's - Eargasm, Plump night out and Saturday night lotion.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: The Bloke on Aug 29, 2015, 22:10
Don't forget the album "Two" by Utah Saints !
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Enjoyed on Aug 29, 2015, 22:14
Quote from: ACIDCHILDREN on Aug 29, 2015, 20:48

It's not really big beat but I would recommend checking out Plump Dj's - Eargasm, Plump night out and Saturday night lotion.

Yup yup yup. And while we're talking about Finger Lickin' Records... Drumattic Twins - Drumattical and the first two Finger Lickin' Thang compilations are kinda big beat ish.
Top, top albums either way.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: ACIDCHILDREN on Aug 30, 2015, 05:49
Quote from: Enjoyed on Aug 29, 2015, 22:14

Yup yup yup. And while we're talking about Finger Lickin' Records... Drumattic Twins - Drumattical and the first two Finger Lickin' Thang compilations are kinda big beat ish.
Top, top albums either way.

Elite Force, Adam Freeland, Soul of man and Meat Katie are also worth a mention.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Aug 30, 2015, 06:33
For me, labels are kinda screwy especially when it comes to categorizing artists (ahem, for example, the artist this site is dedicated to).  'Big Beat" had quite a few elements (including acid and a pop structure er ish catchiness), but for me, Hip Hop was the key.  Therefore, some of these artists may venture into "trip hop," "breaks" or dnb at times...

Some British guys named Tom and Norman...or maybe it was Ed and Norman?  I don't remember.  Anyway, I don't think the Tom and Ed guys lasted...
Propellerheads
Bentley Rhythm Ace
Wagon Christ (aka Luke Vibert)  The Luke Vibert/BJ Cole album "Start The Panic" is magical btw.
Apollo 440.  "Electric Glide In Blue" is definitely better, but "Getting High On Your Own Supply" still has some pretty decent stuff on it.
Coldcut.  Check out "Beats + Pieces" and "More Beats + Pieces."  If you like that, check out more.  Then listen to "Journeys By DJ" and find out what a dj mix is supposed to sound like. 
Jadell
Wiseguys
Fantastic Plastic Machine
DJ Punk Rock
Death In Vegas
Funki Porcini (check "Wicked, Cruel, Nasty, Bad" & "The Ultimately Empty Million Pounds" album).
The Herbaliser
London Funk All Stars
Overseer
Midfield General
Lionrock
Freestylers
Dub Pistols
David Holmes
Skeewiff
Groove Armada
Monkey Mafia
Sabres Of Paradise

Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Aug 30, 2015, 06:40
I completely failed to mention that "Storm The Studio" by Meat Beat Manifesto very well could change your life. 

Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Nils VIP on Aug 30, 2015, 11:35
Cheers for all the recommendations, folks. Here's one from me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYinMQjHII
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Ben Glass on Sep 02, 2015, 07:50
I used to love this compilation, if you can find a copy or download of it on line somewhere
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Essential-Skint/release/112587
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: WhiteNoise on Sep 02, 2015, 08:00
Epic reccomendations here!

My two cents: get a copy of Junkie XL's soundtrack for SSX Blur. It's a fantastic modern big beat record, good if you're looking for something nearer the pop end of the spectrum. Here's a track from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45NcU05JPTI

You also may have heard some of the tracks before, many have been licensed for advertising and TV through Extreme Music, they pop up in ads and shows every several months and it's a nice surprise to hear them.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Spiritual Vibes on Sep 11, 2015, 04:04
These are all great suggestions. I must say though, there's really nothing that we can compare to the Chem's sound. I've been digging & digging to find 90s breakbeat tracks to go with the Chem's old sound for a mix I want to make, though nothing is just on that same level...
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Sep 11, 2015, 04:23
no, nothing else quite is.  :)
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Csar on Sep 12, 2015, 07:48
Brothers have always been special and ahead of their time :)

Some tunes I like:

A Skillz feat. Krafty Kuts - Happiness
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMOvjYH55DU

Refunk - It's Groovy
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Nn0BtGY1Q

Cinematic Orchestra - Man With the Movie Camers
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvTF6B5XKxQ

Plump DJs - Black Jack
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JToxCYlbxrM

Shirley Bassey - Big Spender (Wilde Oscar Mix)
Spoiler
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x266fc6_shirley-bassey-big-spender-remix-album-wild-oscar-mix-wma_travel

Freestylers - Get Down Massive
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fypsPCc4DVk

Linkin Park (:D) - Session
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3IStIl7-Q

Dylan Rhymes - Sugar DJ
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSRkRGmUwkA

DJ Mink - Can You Relate
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjn1g8KZNzg

Malente and Fort Knox Five - Open
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOocHDYS6CY

Soul of Man - Between the Eyes
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHu9-YDrwQ

Drumattic Twins - Feelin Kinda Strange
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqLZ3UXbJE

Depth Charge - Shaolin Buddha Finger
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Rf8wT2-VE
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Csar on Sep 12, 2015, 08:17
Couldn't post this in the other post as it would cut off the rest of the list there (maybe due to beatport?)

Le Hammond Inferno - F.S.B.
http://classic.beatport.com/track/f-s-b-original-mix/278968#

>>>> Baba O'Riley - The Who (ILS remix) <<<<
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/jIEICssomnQ

You Are Here - Atomic Hooligans (ILS remix)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4TTGI9s7Rg
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 12, 2015, 08:32
Ok, maybe I'm being pedantic here. Maybe I'm missing the point, but nonetheless...

My thoughts on Big Beat as a genre is that it was a mid to late 90's ('95-'98) phenomenon (partly inspired by The Chems). It was the kind of artists that were on Skint records for example. The artists that Fatboy would play at The Boutique in Brighton (as per On The Floor At The Boutique (http://www.discogs.com/Fatboy-Slim-On-The-Floor-At-The-Boutique/master/26938)).
But then Breaks or "Nu Skool Breaks" came along at the turn of the century. Personally I think that's a separate genre.
So people like: A Skillz, Krafty Kuts, Plump DJ's, Elite Force, Freeland, Ils, Dylan Rhymes and Meat Katie are all Breaks rather than Big Beat, I think.  I kinda feel like there should be a separate thread for these Breaks artists.  Am I splitting hairs? Maybe...
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Csar on Sep 12, 2015, 08:53
Quote from: Skyscraper on Sep 12, 2015, 08:32

Ok, maybe I'm being pedantic here. Maybe I'm missing the point, but nonetheless...

My thoughts on Big Beat as a genre is that it was a mid to late 90's ('95-'98) phenomenon (partly inspired by The Chems). It was the kind of artists that were on Skint records for example. The artists that Fatboy would play at The Boutique in Brighton (as per On The Floor At The Boutique (http://www.discogs.com/Fatboy-Slim-On-The-Floor-At-The-Boutique/master/26938)).
But then Breaks or "Nu Skool Breaks" came along at the turn of the century. Personally I think that's a separate genre.
So people like: A Skillz, Krafty Kuts, Plump DJ's, Elite Force, Freeland, Ils, Dylan Rhymes and Meat Katie are all Breaks rather than Big Beat, I think.  I kinda feel like there should be a separate thread for these Breaks artists.  Am I splitting hairs? Maybe...

Fair enough. I tried to stick as close as to what I think is Big Beat. Some are a bit beyond true Big Beat some can be considered straight Big Beat. To me, Big Beat has a fair amount of "live" sounding drums an ideally drum rolls and breaks in it (like the Depth Charge's or DJ Mink's track). And I think those examples I posted aren't that far away from that. Oh, and I don't believe a specific time reference is relevant here. You could produce Big Beat today too if you wanted ;) So I don't pigeonhole it by the folks who produced a track but rather by the track itself whether I consider it Big Beat or not.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 12, 2015, 16:00
I don't consider Plump DJs and co as Big Beat either. They're breakbeat, and Big Beat is a kind of missing link between hip hop and breakbeat.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 02, 2016, 10:42
Fatboy Q&A

Ok they clearly have the date wrong where they say 16th August. I suspect they mean the 6th of September. Anyway don't say that no one warned you that the coolest newspaper in the world is doing this.
There used to be a Fatboy thread - maybe on the old forum. If anyone wants to start a new one and move this post, that's fine by me.

https://twitter.com/guardianmusic/status/771634799349903360
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: NiCk.Dj on Sep 02, 2016, 11:26
Basement Jaxx - Remedy
Junkie XL - Saturday Teenage Kick
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 06, 2016, 14:03
Quote from: Skyscraper on Sep 02, 2016, 10:42

https://twitter.com/guardianmusic/status/771634799349903360

So this happened today. I feared the questions weren't gonna be up to much a couple of days ago, but in the end I think this is more enjoyable than the Karl Hyde Guardian chat a while ago.

Fatboy discusses the way Rockefeller Skank came about, snorting gak off a railway line, and bin diving for samples. Stuff that made me chuckle included; "the longest word I ever said in a burp. It was 'Archbishop Desmond Tutu and his wife' ", and "I have the immense honour of having a dildo named after me".

There's a Chemical connection too: "Chemical Brothers asked me to remix Star Guitar. I sat there for three days and thought: it can't get any better".

Oh, and he even answered MY question: "Did Palookaville's reception put you off making any more Fatboy albums...?" I didn't think he would to be honest. I'm impressed with his general attitude of not shying away from any of the questions.

Also you'll see in his "goodbye" photo that he's doing his debut Beats 1 show on Friday.
Oh, and Better Living Through Chemistry is  being re-released (http://www.nme.com/news/fatboy-slim/96089)

Now I'm looking up old Housemartins footage. Anyone besides me old enough to remember Caravan of Love?
https://vimeo.com/27140822

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm67mx_housemartin-s-caravan-of-love_music?GK_FACEBOOK_OG_HTML5=1

Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 08, 2016, 10:13
He's talking about a new single... Is he talking about that brazilian remix stuff he released a few weeks ago ?
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Sep 08, 2016, 15:54
I think this is the last thing I heard from him.

https://youtu.be/gndFpTvBXqk

Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 11, 2016, 22:50
Fatboy Beats1 show 09/09/16  (https://hearthis.at/globalsets/fatboy-slim-beats1-radio-show-001-10-sep-2016/)
Is this embedable?
Download HERE (http://www.global-sets.com/fatboy-slim-beats1-radio-show-001-10-sep-2016/)

I've only had a quick skip through this. May not be breaking lots of new ground but sounds entertaining nonetheless.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Bosco on Oct 17, 2016, 19:52
Came across this article:

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/big-beat-history-influence-prodigy-fatboy-slim


Appreciate how the author relentlessly praises The Chemical Brothers, but I really don't get this guy's angle.

Quote
The fact that it coincided with the Brit-Pop invasion of the second half of the 90s is no coincidence either, as they are both examples of the English taking American roots music, whitewashing it, and selling it back to American teens for twenty bucks a pop. There's no way around around the fact that this was music by upper-middle class Brits targeted at upper-middle class American youth—and that many of the top big beat acts were glaringly white, straight, and male.

um...
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Csar on Oct 17, 2016, 21:51
Quote from: Bosco on Oct 17, 2016, 19:52

Came across this article:

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/big-beat-history-influence-prodigy-fatboy-slim


Appreciate how the author relentlessly praises The Chemical Brothers, but I really don't get this guy's angle.

um...

Thanks for the article. I had to take a break from reading when he (after much of the elitist crap he already wrote) started calling Rockafeller Skunk "most garish offenders". Will continue reading later.
And I don't get that paragraph either you quoted. Especially that gender/race/ orientation annotation. But it must be really really meaningful, I guess.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: WhiteNoise on Oct 18, 2016, 01:08
Of course big beat was designed to reinforce conservative patriarchal heteronormativity. Nothing to do with the PLUR driven rave background it was born from. Obviously. I thought we all knew this.
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Ben_j on Oct 18, 2016, 09:45
Bentley Rhythm Ace are touring in the UK right now. I wish I could go... Such an underrated band, and one of the best Big Beat act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuwOR3AR7k
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Csar on Oct 18, 2016, 10:26
Quote from: Ben_j on Oct 18, 2016, 09:45

Bentley Rhythm Ace are touring in the UK right now. I wish I could go... Such an underrated band, and one of the best Big Beat act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuwOR3AR7k
Funny, I found this clip too a couple of weeks ago when I was browsing some tunes on YT. It's nice to see them back in their game. I really loved BRA's debut album and therefore bought For Your Ears Only. But to be honest, that was a really boring and chaotic record without any direction whatsoever. I've got two mixes from 1997/99 that are quite nice though. Maybe they're going to release another alum?
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Enjoyed on Oct 18, 2016, 10:27
They're playing in Brighton in December. A kind of Skint reunion with Space Raiders DJing.
I wish wish wish I could go but I'm going to be in America.

Missing out on Röyksopp and the Chems too  :'(

But, y'know... Love and all that.
Title: Big beat
Post by: Agustin123 on Sep 14, 2017, 01:19
I love the idea that the Chemical Brothers & Fatboy Slim are friends. I am your number one fan. I love your music (the big beat). Very few in my family like the big beat (do not take it badly but when I show my father and my sister some Fatboy Slim songs and the chemical brothers said they did not like them).
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Joslyn on Sep 26, 2017, 10:34
Quote from: Ben_j on Oct 18, 2016, 09:45

Bentley Rhythm Ace are touring in the UK right now. I wish I could go... Such an underrated band, and one of the best Big Beat act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTuwOR3AR7k

They still bring the car and the airhorn? Aiaiai
Title: Re: Big Beat
Post by: Bosco on Jun 12, 2018, 22:03
No online news articles related to the matter, but since it's one of my favorite albums.... Proppellerheads 'Decksandrumsandrockandroll',  is quietly getting a 20th Anniversary Re-Release ,both on Vinyl and Cd, later this month.

Looks like the CD version will come as a double disc including some of the rarer EP and Single b-sided material that they have released previously.

here is the US Amazon listing:

https://www.amazon.com/Decksandrumsandrockandroll-20Th-Anniversary-PROPELLERHEADS/dp/B07BZC89ZS