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Forum => For That Beautiful Feeling => Topic started by: ThePumisher on Aug 27, 2021, 21:44

Title: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 27, 2021, 21:44
10 bucks Ellie Rowsell will contribute vocals on XDUST12...





(they suddenly started following her account but not the Wolf Alice account - same happend to Aurora, and we all know how this ended on XDUST11 ;) )
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 27, 2021, 22:48
Well, I think, that we'll get the new LP not later, than on the next june.

Maybe we'll get another single later this year?
But I really dunno if WEP will appear on the record.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Aug 28, 2021, 08:59
I think that TDTYF will be on the new album but not WEP.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 28, 2021, 15:21
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 28, 2021, 08:59

I think that TDTYF will be on the new album but not WEP.

dito

But maybe (fingers crossed) WEP was the introduction of releasing proper b-sides on singles again. I miss those times where they released at least one b-side to every single (sometimes even 2)


BTW Ellie is following them back. Could just be frienship because both (Chems & Wolf Alice) headlined Lattitude and theres chances they've met backstage, bust the past told a different story
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 28, 2021, 20:37
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 28, 2021, 08:59

I think that TDTYF will be on the new album but not WEP.

Well, Haai kinda confirmed it

https://twitter.com/haaidj/status/1398234986042494977
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Explud on Aug 28, 2021, 22:43
Quote from: JRSZ on Aug 28, 2021, 20:37

Well, Haai kinda confirmed it

https://twitter.com/haaidj/status/1398234986042494977
I'm not sure that it can be an official statement, can be just opinion.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 29, 2021, 23:45
Quote from: Explud on Aug 28, 2021, 22:43

I'm not sure that it can be an official statement, can be just opinion.

Well, let's hope for it then
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Nov 29, 2021, 22:50
Did they just post new stuff on their Instagram Story or is this just some random playing?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Nov 29, 2021, 23:30
Quote from: ThePumisher on Nov 29, 2021, 22:50

Did they just post new stuff on their Instagram Story or is this just some random playing?

it reminds me of Hanna and a more cinematic CWU/PTB

The Darkness That You Fear was also teased this way at the start of the pandemic with very similar orchestral ambience
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Zesty on Nov 30, 2021, 00:42
Quote from: ThePumisher on Nov 29, 2021, 22:50

Did they just post new stuff on their Instagram Story or is this just some random playing?
Close your eyes part 2  ;)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Dec 12, 2021, 09:46
Already posted in the Live 2021 thread, but also gonna leave this here:
3 videos of the same song, played on their Warehouse DJ gig on 10. December 2021, speculative new XDUST12 material:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLUcJyhtqlY
Recorded by https://www.instagram.com/b.d.19862/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyzs2XghlBY
Recorded by https://www.instagram.com/madi.coles/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QghZlT4eX2A
Recorded by https://www.instagram.com/nickspencer_/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Dec 12, 2021, 11:35
Escape Velocity vibes
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Explud on Dec 12, 2021, 19:03
Main riff sounds like modular osc played by analog sequencer, drum roll with flanger/phaser, distorted spoken word one shot sample like one that we have in SYFSD - 200% Chemical.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Dec 12, 2021, 20:59
A snippet from another track, I'm less sure about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ROKldSl04E
Recorded by https://www.instagram.com/lewis_johnstoneccles/

Btw, Instagram ist an absolute nightmare to search for content and I'm only uploading the videos to Youtube so that other people who are smart enough not to have an account on this hellsite won't be tempted
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jul 30, 2022, 04:26
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 27, 2021, 21:44

10 bucks Ellie Rowsell will contribute vocals on XDUST12...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 30, 2022, 07:24
Is this from the database where tracks are registered?

Ohgoditshappening.gif
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 30, 2022, 10:21
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 30, 2022, 04:26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg

You checking the list weekly like Santa preparing for Christmas?

Funny thing is, If I had bet money on this, I would have predicted her credit would be for the warped pop/rock/indie track we heard from Printworks (incidentally Printworks is closing down).

So I'm thinking SACEM have either (a) credited Ellie for the wrong track, or (b) she has more than one writing credit on the new material.

Re the "Dreaming" vocal; although I no longer think it's Loleatta Holloway, I still think it's a sample. I'd be surprised if it's Ellie's voice.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 30, 2022, 12:27
I KNEW IT! I FUCKING KNEW IT! HAH!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jul 30, 2022, 16:33
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 30, 2022, 10:21

You checking the list weekly like Santa preparing for Christmas?

Funny thing is, If I had bet money on this, I would have predicted her credit would be for the warped pop/rock/indie track we heard from Printworks (incidentally Printworks is closing down).

So I'm thinking SACEM have either (a) credited Ellie for the wrong track, or (b) she has more than one writing credit on the new material.

Re the "Dreaming" vocal; although I no longer think it's Loleatta Holloway, I still think it's a sample. I'd be surprised if it's Ellie's voice.

I've been checking anytime there is a tidbit that indicates new music. However, this time I checked to cross reference "Mind Response" as I couldn't remember if that track was previously registered (it was), and while searching low and behold came across the new one.

I haven't marinated in the newer tracks in hopes to keep them fresh when I see them, but is it possible the main vocal has purposely been extracted from "Feels like I'm Dreaming" to keep it a secret? Literally, only skimmed through the song once at the beginning of the tour, so I'll leave it up to you guys to answer that.

and yes Stefan, from Sacem
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Jul 30, 2022, 16:38
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 30, 2022, 16:33

I've been checking anytime there is a tidbit that indicates new music. However, this time I checked to cross reference "Mind Response" as I couldn't remember if that track was previously registered (it was), and while searching low and behold came across the new one.

I haven't marinated in the newer tracks in hopes to keep them fresh when I see them, but is it possible the main vocal has purposely been extracted from "Feels like I'm Dreaming" to keep it a secret? Literally, only skimmed through the song once at the beginning of the tour, so I'll leave it up to you guys to answer that.

and yes Stefan, from Sacem

AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING
https://youtu.be/9Ww1CNJe9Eg?t=132
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Ford on Jul 31, 2022, 04:48
Quote from: hstn on Jul 30, 2022, 16:38

AND I FEEL LIKE I'M DREAMING


Bloody hell that's a good track.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 31, 2022, 09:46
Oh yes it is
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 31, 2022, 13:13
A question that comes to my mind recently is: Will TDTYF be on XDUST12?
When we first heard about TDTYF i've read somewhere that this will be the first sign of their new album. Now, more than a year later [ :o ], i don't think so anymore. Why? Because in one year there so much happening, and we all know how long T&E tweak on nearly every song (take the demos (alt mixes) from DYOH for example) and how they've decided which songs will be on an album, which will be b-sides and which don't see the light of day ever. Loops Of Fury could have been on DYOH - nope. Instead Get Up On Like This has been chosen.
What do you peeps think? What will happen with TDTYF? Will it be on 12 or will it stay as an (very short) E.P.?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 31, 2022, 14:42
Jep, I also thought that it would be the first single of their new album. Since so much time has passed and especially since TDTYF is not part of their current live setlist, I'm sure we won't find it on the new album, it will remain a standalone release, just like C-H-E-M-I-C-A-L.

FY was released about half a year before NG and that was (I think) the longest time span between first official single and album release. If TDTYF is indeed on Chem10, which I expect in late 2022 at the earliest, this timespan would be nearly three times as long.


I'm totally fine with a standalone release. Ages ago we got to hear a lot of the tracks that didn't make it for whatever reasons onto the albums as B-Sides, since we pretty much don't get single releases anymore why not some short EPs instead?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Ben_j on Jul 31, 2022, 22:47
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 27, 2021, 21:44

10 bucks Ellie Rowsell will contribute vocals on XDUST12...





(they suddenly started following her account but not the Wolf Alice account - same happend to Aurora, and we all know how this ended on XDUST11 ;) )
Spot on
https://repertoire.sacem.fr/detail-oeuvre/nuoyV-QnW_yr3MmVaWdbaxjWj0t3wQ3Sw5T6yyOs75c=/FEELS%20LIKE%20I%20M%20DREAMING?query=thomas%20rowlands&filters=parties#searchBtn
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Explud on Sep 16, 2022, 23:27
So, that's a vocal sample of Adrian Borland, but from which song of The Sound or Second Layer?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 17, 2022, 11:03
Quote from: Explud on Sep 16, 2022, 23:27

So, that's a vocal sample of Adrian Borland, but from which song of The Sound or Second Layer?

Is that the PRS website Explud? Any other new songs listed?

Second Layer don't have too many songs, but The Sound? Absolutely loads. I'm guessing the sample will be from The Sound. But who's gonna listen through all their tracks?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Explud on Sep 17, 2022, 20:05
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 17, 2022, 11:03
Is that the PRS website Explud?
BMI.

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 17, 2022, 11:03
Any other new songs listed?
This one count?

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: neorev on Sep 17, 2022, 20:38
Quote from: Explud on Sep 17, 2022, 20:05

BMI.
This one count?

https://youtu.be/VmxB4okckug
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: urbanhack on Sep 26, 2022, 15:35
Quote from: Ford on Jul 31, 2022, 04:48

Bloody hell that's a good track.

This was the best part of the show in Denver for me!  Wow.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Sep 28, 2022, 06:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_01T9uFgew

somebody in youtube comments section had it nailed two months ago! Hey Karl
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 28, 2022, 10:45
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 28, 2022, 06:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_01T9uFgew

somebody in youtube comments section had it nailed two months ago! Hey Karl
Ah you did the donkey work...only to find out that someone, somewhere beat you to it!
Well done anyway.

No Reason seems to display a very clean Chemical job separating the vocals from the original guitars etc on the track (sample at 1:25). I don't imagine there was an a cappella to work with. Sounds like the original drums may have been inspiration for the Chemical track too.


Quote from: Explud on Sep 17, 2022, 20:05

BMI.

Oh the American one? If you have continued access to that site, feel free to let us know about any more newbies.

Quote from: Explud on Sep 17, 2022, 20:05

This one count?

Thanks for looking. There was this list (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,1074.msg12744.html#msg12744) in 2018. I guess if any of that stuff shows on BMI, it's not new for 2022.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Oct 01, 2022, 17:53
So are they gonna release a single between Ibiza and Printworks? It feels like that time...

Nobody gets a feeling that Dreaming or No Reason is an EBW, do we?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Oct 01, 2022, 19:04
Quote from: Bosco on Oct 01, 2022, 17:53

So are they gonna release a single between Ibiza and Printworks? It feels like that time...

Nobody gets a feeling that Dreaming or No Reason is an EBW, do we?

I feel like they should've been released by now as EBW13 and EBW14 if they had the intention of doing so, I do hope we'll get something by November at least, maybe an album release in January if we're lucky?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Oct 01, 2022, 19:10
I guess the timing would make sense, with the first single being released at the end of this year/begining of next year, with the album in Spring or Summer 2023, accompanied by a release tour.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Oct 01, 2022, 19:20
Quote from: hstn on Oct 01, 2022, 19:04

I feel like they should've been released by now as EBW13 and EBW14 if they had the intention of doing so, I do hope we'll get something by November at least, maybe an album release in January if we're lucky?

That would be good timing on chems part. A late Novemberish single release, followed by maybe another single jan/Feb and perhaps a April album release?

An album before summer would be good.

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Oct 01, 2022, 19:34
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Oct 01, 2022, 19:20

That would be good timing on chems part. A late Novemberish single release, followed by maybe another single jan/Feb and perhaps a April album release?

An album before summer would be good.

It'd be very similar to what they did for No Geography! They've done at least two January LPs, maybe another April one seems likely
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Oct 02, 2022, 08:33
Yeah, it would be pretty much the same shedule as with No Geography, but I think a release in the first half of 2023 makes sense because of all the festival summer shows.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Oct 02, 2022, 19:52
Quote from: Stefan on Oct 02, 2022, 08:33

Yeah, it would be pretty much the same shedule as with No Geography, but I think a release in the first half of 2023 makes sense because of all the festival summer shows.

They did the same in '04 in lead up to PTB. We got Come Inside, Surface to Air, and EBW 7 (Acid Children) on that tour. Mostly played festivals (Glasto, Fuji (my first show!), Chile). I'm actually surprised we haven't seen any South American dates yet on this run. They usually do at least one set in Chile (and still miss Canada).
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Oct 20, 2022, 20:34
I think it's time to update this thread  :)

Possible new track (found by Wolkenkrabber) played at the Amnesia Ibiza DJ set, nicknamed "Big Beat Space Gospel":
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjwEFEBoTyT/

I think there are also a handful of other potential new tracks which weren't posted here.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Oct 21, 2022, 22:11
Damn, Space Gospel is rocking my socks. Some sick drum fills here and there would be the icing on the Space Gospel Cake!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Nov 29, 2022, 01:20
Hey guys! Me and the other members of the discord server have been doing some detective work and have started a spreadsheet to keep track of the songs we know or think are part of the upcoming album! Here it is:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19SSK3lmR6tXUtYLh6KRZ0N8W4Pt176TCMDsLE10xMbI/edit?usp=sharing

There are a few I haven't seen discussed yet here that I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on.

I'm really excited to see that woo suicide track if it is chemical, it's been stuck in my head plenty lately. The "All of a sudden it's like" track also seems really really good, as well as that Big Beat Space Gospel!

EDIT: Of course, I should have checked the other threads as well... You guys already know about most of these! But either way, useful to have this here to really keep track of things.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 29, 2022, 02:16
Ha! A spreadhseet. Nerd alert! But hey, I'll go with it (your headings could be moved to the left a bit perhaps?).

There's a full audio of the Chems live show at Forwards Bristol in the live section here (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3193.0.html) after Csar spotted it in October. In the YT comments someone has time-stamped all the tracks, so we get "full" live versions of No Reason and Dreaming. And yeah the intro to Three Little Birdies Downbeats is some kind of a new thing.

By the Conga Somg, I presume you mean the ass shaker track that the Chems posted and pinned to their Instagram (and other social media) the day after Amnesia, Ibiza. You have it listed as "unlikely" but for me, the fact that they posted/pinned this track makes me think it is new Chems.

https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1581709543326638080

I also did a late edit to my Fabrik Madrid post last week where I added an Insta post. I think a couple of the slides in that post contain clips from later on in that track (with added acid). Ah...I see that insta clip has disappeared now. Bummer!
** EDIT** Oh I see you've done links. I think your two links are different tracks. So I was talking about the track in your 2nd link. Your first link sounds like it samples a tiny bit of Chic's Good Times (might be part of the track in my next paragraph?)

Re "woo, suicide" and "rock with u", I'm also inclined to think they may be part of the same track. And perhaps the "Good Times" bit is part of this too? A sort of old school mash-up? I wonder if the track(s) is/are proper album material though...

Also, on the Fabrik Madrid thread I posted two Youtube clips. The first one has a "basic bitch" groove at about 6:30 (after Go). This track also got played at Ibiza Amnesia, (it's in that thread too) so I think it may be Chemical.
And in the second YT clip  - HBHG (KiNK mix), there's an unidentified track from 4:30; a pounding track with repetitive bleeps and a 'Chemical' aeroplane swoosh sound effect.  Shazam doesn't recognise it. Could it be a Chemical re-edit of someone else? It doesn't sound like a typical Chems tune (but then, nor does the Conga/ass shaker thing).

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Nov 29, 2022, 02:50
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 29, 2022, 02:16
There's a full audio of the Chems live show at Forwards Bristol in the live section here after Csar spotted it in October. In the YT comments someone has time-stamped all the tracks, so we get "full" live versions of No Reason and Dreaming.
We were aware of this and other full clips, but we wanted something with video as well!

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 29, 2022, 02:16
By the Conga Somg, I presume you mean the ass shaker track that the Chems posted and pinned to their Instagram (and other social media) the day after Amnesia, Ibiza. You have it listed as "unlikely" but for me, the fact that they posted/pinned this track makes me think it is new Chems.
Great point! I don't think any of us noticed that. We'll remove the link that, as you pointed out, is probably something separate, and add this tweet. I'm hesitant to move it to the likely section though, as it still doesn't feel chemical to me, but I'll see if some of the other people who've made it think that's a good idea.

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 29, 2022, 02:16
Re "woo, suicide" and "rock with u", I'm also inclined to think they may be part of the same track. I wonder if the track(s) is/are proper album material though...
I really like it personally! And yeah, I do believe they are the same track, as the vocals sound similar and they appeared in sequence together. Maybe it's a B-Side or Japan exclusive track? Wouldn't it be funny if it was a B-Side to No Reason?

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 29, 2022, 02:16
Also, on the Fabrik Madrid thread I posted two Youtube clips. The first one has a "basic bitch" groove at about 6:30 (after Go). This track also got played at Ibiza Amnesia, (it's in that thread too) so I think it may be Chemical.
And in the second YT clip  - HBHG (KiNK mix), there's an unidentified track from 4:30; a pounding track with repetitive bleeps and a 'Chemical' aeroplane swoosh sound effect.  Shazam doesn't recognise it. Could it be a Chemical re-edit of someone else? It doesn't sound like a typical Chems tune (but then, nor does the Conga/ass shaker thing).
Will check these out, thank you!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 02, 2022, 22:07
Quote from: Explud on Sep 16, 2022, 23:27

So, that's a vocal sample of Adrian Borland, but from which song of The Sound or Second Layer?

^ So that was found on BMI. No Reason is now on the SACEM website too:

NO REASON
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED, UNKNOWN PUBLISHER
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Composer/Author : BAILEY GRAHAM JOHN, OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN, BORLAND ADRIAN KELVIN



Dreaming is still listed with Ellie Rowsell as a co-writer, which makes me wonder if Ellie is the mystery voice on that track.

FEELS LIKE I M DREAMING
Sous-titre(s) : THE DREAMING SONG
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED, UNKNOWN PUBLISHER
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN, Ellen ROWSELL



and now, "all of a sudden it's like..." they've added:

ALL OF A SUDDEN
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN


I wonder if there's more stuff now added to PRS and BMI...
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Dec 03, 2022, 01:39
Oh interesting!

"All of a Sudden" kinda has album title potential, no?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Dec 03, 2022, 04:59
clearer videos of Big Beat Space Gospel! goes without saying this is definitely chemical
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5avM13cTzY8
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m6-iefpvTo4

and LOVELY to see "All Of A Sudden" now confirmed as a new song by the brothers!! whenever Chemical 10 arrives, it's definitely sooner than we all think...godwilling
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Dec 03, 2022, 08:29
Gotta say with all the confirmed and likely material floating around, I'm super hyped for this album.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Dec 03, 2022, 18:41
Update!

My personal favorite of the new tracks, Rock Witchu AKA Woo Suicide, was believed up until now to have first been played in the 2022 DJ sets. But as it turns out, Theo, a member of the Piku Playground discord server, had unknowingly recorded a clip of it all the way back in 2021 during Fabric! I think this makes it a little more likely to be chemical, although nothing is confirmed of course. Hoping to see this one on SACEM next!

Clip in question: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940199042372206622/1048662244554190879/Recording_2.mp3&sa=D&source=editors&ust=1670095599273201&usg=AOvVaw3xLO-32QF8pynWEyWPHNui
Thanks to Hoosteen for this discovery!

I don't think we've ever gotten this much material before an album release before, so this is a really hype and exciting time. The best part is that all of it looks absolutely amazing! Really glad I got into the fandom at a time like this.

Really hoping this one is a B-Side to the NRTL single so we can get it early - if not, it feels like potentially a Japan exclusive track in a similar sense to Direct Buki.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Dec 04, 2022, 01:22
Quote from: JRSZ on Aug 27, 2021, 22:48

Well, I think, that we'll get the new LP not later, than on the next june.

Maybe we'll get another single later this year?
But I really dunno if WEP will appear on the record.

Poor 2021 me...
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Dec 18, 2022, 17:54
Quote from: Csar on Oct 21, 2022, 22:11
Damn, Space Gospel is rocking my socks. Some sick drum fills here and there would be the icing on the Space Gospel Cake
When I first heard this track, I thought it was some other artist, plus it sounds 'non-chemical, but I really like it a lot. But when that vid of the vocals kicked in 'I WILL FEAR NO EVIL ' I knew then it was 'chemical'. 

Anyway no YT vids of bugged out, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough. But I did notice something unusual lately. The Chems insta stories have muted the audio for most of the Bugged out show! And as of today, they muted all of them from the show. Maybe this is to prevent leaks or they want to keep the new tracks on the down low.  I could be wrong though!

Edit: some of the earlier DJ sets (ex: Amnesia) are still there but Bugged out has a few 


Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 18, 2022, 18:00
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Dec 18, 2022, 17:54
But I did notice something unusual lately. The Chems insta stories have muted the audio for most of the Bugged out show! And as of today, they muted all of them from the show. Maybe this is to prevent leaks or they want to keep the new tracks on the down low.  I could be wrong though!
These are other people's Insta stories that the Chems are picking up. The original clips don't all have audio. It's not the Chems muting them.

I would add that we have heard a lot of new tracks now. If there are say, ten tracks on an album then we've heard more than half the album.
BUT...maybe we haven't heard more than half the album. Maybe it's... a double album.
Let the rumours/speculation commence.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Dec 18, 2022, 20:33
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 18, 2022, 18:00
These are other people's Insta stories that the Chems are picking up. The original clips don't all have audio. It's not the Chems muting them.


But why would users purposely mute their video (story) from a chems dj set when they upload it to their profile? I'm sure they would want their friends see them whooping it up at bugged out for a once of a lifetime dj set with the audio intact. 

Double album? Maybe! or maybe an album that has more than the average 10 tracks? (WATN had the most...12)

I got money on a April release, if not, then June, for historic reasons.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Dec 18, 2022, 23:34
My (not really sophisticated) mathematical analysis tells me there are on average 1086,375 +/- 377,5912141 days between the releases of albums, which gives us April 14th 2023 as the upper range. So April seems likely  ;D
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Dec 22, 2022, 03:41
So far we've heard six songs from the DJ sets that seems highly likely to be Chemical:

No Reason
Feels Like I'm Dreaming
All Of A Sudden
Warped Pop/Reflexion 2.0
 Rock Witchu (or Woo Suicide...unsure about this one)
Big Beat Space Gospel (Fear No Evil)

Then you consider The Darkness That You Fear from 2021 that's like....7 new songs, and 6 is certainly a lot for what they'd usually preview in a DJ set.

In comparison No Geography they debuted only 4 songs in their 2017 sets (FY, Keep On, MAH, EoD)...5 if you count the We've Got To Try snippet in the Desert Island Disco Mix.

I'm relatively late in the community compared to most so I don't know how this was for other album rollouts, I think a good amount of songs were teased for the Echoes era but not everything made it to the final cut, Direct Buki only made it as a Japan bonus and C-H-E-M-I-C-A-L as a non album single so it's a bit tricky

I like how they seem to be breaking the formula a lot with this one! Buuut I'm inclined to believe of these handful of songs maybe we'll get a few on the album then others as bonus songs...it'd be awesome if we got a longer album than we got in years past...but then they've implied they have a bunch planned for their 30th anniversary too so who knows what'll happen!!!

I hope we don't go the way of Echoes where a handful of the songs we heard don't make the final album, but I think it's safe to say at least 4-5 of these will be on the album...which? No clue y'all can decide that, but this is just my own reasoning based on the album cycles I've been here for

Now that the DJ sets are over and the year is almost over, I'm hoping an announcement of some sort is imminent, whether that be a new single or they start with the LP promo first...if y'all can recount how they've rolled out albums in the past that would help a lot, but I'm hoping January we at least hear SOMETHING...ANYTHING TOM AND ED ANYTHINGGGG

If anything maybe we'll get an announcement in January as their first show coming up is in March at Estereo Picnic...it weirdly isn't listed on their site...but I'm also feeling maybe an April-June release..I'd prefer earlier tho!!

Anyway this was my personal analysis  ;)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 22, 2022, 13:33
Quote from: hstn on Dec 22, 2022, 03:41
No Reason
Feels Like I'm Dreaming
All Of A Sudden
Warped Pop/Reflexion 2.0
 Rock Witchu (or Woo Suicide...unsure about this one)
Big Beat Space Gospel (Fear No Evil)

Then you consider The Darkness That You Fear from 2021 that's like....7 new songs, and 6 is certainly a lot for what they'd usually preview in a DJ set.

I agree with your listed tracks, however I would suggest that's a conservative estimate. Or maybe I'm being overly enthusiastic/naive? Anyway, I would add:
1) The Ass Shaker/conga track embedded in (my) reply #42 above. Edit: Wrong.
2) The "basic bitch" groove, also mentioned in reply #42 above. Edit: Wrong.
3) The pounding track with repetitive bleeps (reply #42 again)  Edit: Wrong

Also, in the ten-slide insta post (by N3rish) on the Printworks '22 thread (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3164.msg30567.html#msg30567)
4) Slide 10 :big bad techno with lots of FX incl MC Escher rising sounds. Edit: Wrong, this was High Dive.
5) Slide 9: The Chugger with the aeroplane FX at the end of clip. Edit: Wrong. This was Swarm by Benjamin Damage.
6) Slide 5: "Here you go"(?) with MC Escher rising sounds. Edit: Wrong

Work Energy Principle could also perhaps pop up as an album bonus track.

I may not be right on all of the additonal ones here, but I'll be surprised if some of them don't turn out to be Chemical.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Dec 22, 2022, 14:01
I doubt that TDTYF (and WEP) will apear on the new album. It has been more than one and a half years since they were released, and more importantly, TDTYF didn't make an appearance in the 2022 live setlist.

The solid tracks, which I would be very surprised not to find on the new album, are:
No Reason
Dreaming
All Of A Sudden
Big Beat Space Gospel
Warped Pop (Yodelhoo, as I like to call it)


Anyway everyting sounds so amazing, come on T&E what are you waiting for release that thing already.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: sneakerbeater on Dec 24, 2022, 16:46
I wonder what the concept for this album will be? I'm sure every album they have produced to a certain  criteria, ethos or concept. Like No Geography was made on a setup they would have used in 90s. Or Further was collaborated visually rather than musically.

I have this feeling with all this new music we have heard that this albums approach/theme might tbe o structure it like it was a DJ mix album. Could you image and album, one long continuous mix. It is certainly something I would love to see.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 24, 2022, 17:44
Quote from: sneakerbeater on Dec 24, 2022, 16:46
I wonder what the concept for this album will be? I'm sure every album they have produced to a certain  criteria, ethos or concept. Like No Geography was made on a setup they would have used in 90s. Or Further was collaborated visually rather than musically.

I have this feeling with all this new music we have heard that this albums approach/theme might tbe o structure it like it was a DJ mix album. Could you image and album, one long continuous mix. It is certainly something I would love to see.

I have imagined a "regular" studio album of the more song based tracks, plus a bonus disc of dancefloor tracks. The bonus disc being mixed together. Perhaps those mixed tracks being available separately as downloads and/or limited 12"s for DJ-ing purposes.

But that's probably just me getting carried away...

PS: The opening gambit of tracks on NG was, like EPD, a continuous chunk of tunes running into each other, and that was perhaps the most exciting thing about NG (not that I'm suggesting it wasn't otherwise worthwhile).
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Dec 24, 2022, 17:55
Quote from: ; on Dec 03, 2022, 18:41
Update!

My personal favorite of the new tracks, Rock Witchu AKA Woo Suicide, was believed up until now to have first been played in the 2022 DJ sets. But as it turns out, Theo, a member of the Piku Playground discord server, had unknowingly recorded a clip of it all the way back in 2021 during Fabric! I think this makes it a little more likely to be chemical, although nothing is confirmed of course. Hoping to see this one on SACEM next!

Clip in question: https://www.google.com/url?q=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940199042372206622/1048662244554190879/Recording_2.mp3&sa=D&source=editors&ust=1670095599273201&usg=AOvVaw3xLO-32QF8pynWEyWPHNui
Thanks to Hoosteen for this discovery!

I don't think we've ever gotten this much material before an album release before, so this is a really hype and exciting time. The best part is that all of it looks absolutely amazing! Really glad I got into the fandom at a time like this.

Really hoping this one is a B-Side to the NRTL single so we can get it early - if not, it feels like potentially a Japan exclusive track in a similar sense to Direct Buki.
I'm Theo by the way, gfa over on here! :) 

I added some new fabric clips over here, including the first ever play of NRTL (tom is going mad at the crowd reaction!)

https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3223.msg30658.html#new

I've also put some clips in the Printworks thread - includes a bad quality clip of the @Wolkenkrabber drums (https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1581709543326638080 (https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1581709543326638080))

re amount of songs released in DJ sets, usually they won't do 2 years of dj sets i don't think, theres been almost 10 total now i think. clearly playing about with songs a bit and testing stuff. I think more songs than usual seems fair.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Dec 24, 2022, 18:00
This album will be better than No Geography. I think the Chems pushed it more and got more more ideas for this new album during and after NG production. Sneak mentioned the 90's setup they used, so imo when you tap into something you haven't used in a while, something more usually comes out from it then you thought. This overabundance from this 'tapped' setup has caused an expansion of ideas and concepts for the new album and now has a chance to be a top 3 Chems album.

I think I said too much there. But that space gospel track has made me a believer of the limitless heights that the chems can achieve.

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Jan 05, 2023, 13:43
New music confirmed for 2023 on their instagram - not really a shock but if they are teasing music now it must be soon and not like Autumn!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jan 05, 2023, 14:47
Quote from: gfa2001 on Jan 05, 2023, 13:43
New music confirmed for 2023 on their instagram

And the vid showing Steve Dub "trying" to mix something - and you can hear TDTYF. So maybe it still is on XDUST12?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jan 05, 2023, 15:15
Don't you hate it when your knob comes off? That's what happens when you play with it too much.
[The acapella clip of TDTYF has me thinking either A) it will be a different mix from the single or B) it will be part of a continuous album mix as some of us have kinda speculated. Maybe.]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnCD-cSpMWA/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Jan 05, 2023, 18:09
Sweet! And now we know why it's delayed! The knobs keep coming off!

I wonder what the beige octave kitten is going to contribute.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jan 05, 2023, 19:34
Quote from: Csar on Jan 05, 2023, 18:09
I wonder what the beige octave kitten is going to contribute.
That is a leftover from It Began In Afrika
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jan 11, 2023, 07:59
Alright, with Coachella announced and Chems being part of it, maybe we'll get some type of announcement this Friday?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jan 27, 2023, 23:53
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 28, 2022, 06:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_01T9uFgew

somebody in youtube comments section had it nailed two months ago! Hey Karl

Funnily enough Second Layer have just released a 'new' album called Courts or Wars. There's nothing new on it of course, "Courts Or Wars compiles the band's two EPs (1979's Flesh As Property and the following year's State Of Emergency) along with a scattering of demo tracks."

https://twitter.com/Bandcamp/status/1616084542191988740

Opening up the album page on Bandcamp here (https://secondlayer.bandcamp.com/album/courts-or-wars), there is of course a blurb. If we expand and drop to the bottom of the blurb there are notes:

Quote
NOTES:

Features "Courts Or Wars" which was recently sampled by The Chemical Brothers on their upcoming single "No Reason To Live"
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Jan 28, 2023, 00:09
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jan 27, 2023, 23:53
NOTES:

Features "Courts Or Wars" which was recently sampled by The Chemical Brothers on their upcoming single "No Reason To Live"
Ha, you sleuth! Nice find.
Though, I must admit, if true, the title of this is pretty depressing for the Chems. Hope it'll be just "No Reason" eventually.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jan 28, 2023, 01:20
Quote from: Csar on Jan 28, 2023, 00:09
Ha, you sleuth! Nice find.
Though, I must admit, if true, the title of this is pretty depressing for the Chems. Hope it'll be just "No Reason" eventually.
Meh, only on the surface. Probably more-so an acknowledgment of the absolute bat-shit world we live in right now.

 This title will do great with the angsty crowd. Chems to play Ozzfest!!!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Jan 28, 2023, 04:49
GAHHHH RELEASE NRTL ALREADY WE CAN'T WAIT TILL APRILLLLL!!!!


(pretty please)


----------------
side note tho I really do think the album rollout will probably begin around Coachella but singles could be out sooner, February-March the earliest...the festival is gonna be livestreamed and probably generate a bunch of buzz for the brothers, especially considering how Portola was so positively received we'd probably get a formal album announcement around that time
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jan 28, 2023, 07:02
Quote from: hstn on Jan 28, 2023, 04:49
GAHHHH RELEASE NRTL ALREADY WE CAN'T WAIT TILL APRILLLLL!!!!


(pretty please)


----------------
side note tho I really do think the album rollout will probably begin around Coachella but singles could be out sooner, February-March the earliest...the festival is gonna be livestreamed and probably generate a bunch of buzz for the brothers, especially considering how Portola was so positively received we'd probably get a formal album announcement around that time
The festival is live streamed but I'm not sure every set gets aired. Does anyone remember if Aphex Twin part of the stream in 2019? I know they cut the Caribou stream short last year and they were absolutely killing it. 

I agree though, it feels really close that we are gonna get a new official single.

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: shakermaker on Jan 28, 2023, 16:15
aphex twin did not get streamed. most sets they stream are abbreviated, particularly earlier in the day/evening. caribou was unusual because it ended a little abruptly. 

still I'm optimistic they will get some airtime.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Jan 29, 2023, 10:28


Quote from: Bosco on Jan 28, 2023, 07:02
The festival is live streamed but I'm not sure every set gets aired. Does anyone remember if Aphex Twin part of the stream in 2019? I know they cut the Caribou stream short last year and they were absolutely killing it.

I agree though, it feels really close that we are gonna get a new official single.


Quote from: shakermaker on Jan 28, 2023, 16:15
aphex twin did not get streamed. most sets they stream are abbreviated, particularly earlier in the day/evening. caribou was unusual because it ended a little abruptly.

still I'm optimistic they will get some airtime.
Aphex doesn't allow streaming
Caribou are a lot smaller so are more just highlights coverage i'd say - chems should be the full thing
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jan 30, 2023, 18:25
Quote from: gfa2001 on Jan 29, 2023, 10:28
Aphex doesn't allow streaming
I didn't go to Field Day in 2017. I was at home when I saw the tweet below and I clicked the link. My recollection is that I was watching a completely live stream at the time. Click the link in Ed's tweet. It still works.

https://twitter.com/eddychemical/status/871098062839701505

(start time was 8.55pm (https://www.festicket.com/festivals/field-day/2017/))
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Feb 06, 2023, 12:26
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jan 30, 2023, 18:25
I didn't go to Field Day in 2017. I was at home when I saw the tweet below and I clicked the link. My recollection is that I was watching a completely live stream at the time. Click the link in Ed's tweet. It still works.

https://twitter.com/eddychemical/status/871098062839701505

(start time was 8.55pm (https://www.festicket.com/festivals/field-day/2017/))

His Coachella set last time didn't get streamed I was told so thought this went for everything - my bad!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Feb 21, 2023, 21:18
Any gamblers on the forum?

If we were to speculate who they collaborate with on their new album what would some odds look like? Here's my thought:


Ellie Rowsell: -500 or 1/5

Q-Tip: +200 or 2/1

Beck: +250 or 2.5/1

Aurora: +300 or 3/1

Beth Orton:+400 or 4/1

Tim Burgess: +600 or 6/1

Noel Gallagher: +700 or 7/1

Liam Gallagher: +1400 or 14/1
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Feb 21, 2023, 22:34
Shovell of M People on this track:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CjxpZMorLTF/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Feb 22, 2023, 04:35
Quote from: Bosco on Feb 21, 2023, 21:18
Any gamblers on the forum?

If we were to speculate who they collaborate with on their new album what would some odds look like? Here's my thought:


Ellie Rowsell: -500 or 1/5

Q-Tip: +200 or 2/1

Beck: +250 or 2.5/1

Aurora: +300 or 3/1

Beth Orton:+400 or 4/1

Tim Burgess: +600 or 6/1

Noel Gallagher: +700 or 7/1

Liam Gallagher: +1400 or 14/1


surprised Stephanie Dosen doesn't appear on this list! she appeared on the last 3 albums, granted CMIF was a sample from her...even sounds like her voice on that Warped Pop track (I've never attached an mp3 before...also it sounds like the vocal is saying I'm In Love Again):

10000000_561520318685293_7573558372706213715_n-_1_.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OeLoXLU6Moo

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Feb 22, 2023, 05:48
I probably should've said featuring artists rather than collaborators. Stephanie Dosen has been fantastic with her work with Chems, but is she really anything more than a glorified session vocalist?

And even if we were to count her, she's been almost inactive for nearly 10 years. My guess is her work with the Brothers was completed back during Further and Hanna eras. Her vocals for Taste of Honey probably has been kicking around the studio since those sessions. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Feb 22, 2023, 10:05
Quote from: Bosco on Feb 22, 2023, 05:48
Stephanie Dosen has been fantastic with her work with Chems

Still mad at Robert Del Naja for not releasing the studio version of Red Lights with Stephanie Dosen on microphone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM6Y78qmMvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ST0K0e4f0

Quote from: Bosco on Feb 22, 2023, 05:48
but is she really anything more than a glorified session vocalist?
Counts enough for me. I think she has one of the most beautiful sounding voices since Mazzy Star's Hope Sandoval
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Feb 22, 2023, 12:08
Quote from: Bosco on Feb 22, 2023, 05:48
I probably should've said featuring artists rather than collaborators. Stephanie Dosen has been fantastic with her work with Chems, but is she really anything more than a glorified session vocalist?

And even if we were to count her, she's been almost inactive for nearly 10 years. My guess is her work with the Brothers was completed back during Further and Hanna eras. Her vocals for Taste of Honey probably has been kicking around the studio since those sessions.


Kind of surprised to read she's only got 3 album in her discography, the last two all from 2007, with the last one only being a mini album. She's got a great voice, I concur.

As for the list: I would like to see a collab with the Norwegian musician Silja Sol (former second vocalist at Aurora's band). Her voice is just as good and her tunes are hmmmmm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW6nuqHXslk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HPZU1fm2Tk
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Feb 22, 2023, 17:46
Quote from: Bosco on Feb 22, 2023, 05:48
My guess is her work with the Brothers was completed back during Further and Hanna eras. Her vocals for Taste of Honey probably has been kicking around the studio since those sessions.

We know that Tom and Ed do recycle some recording elements. Take the K-os Don't Think vocal that was recycled from Get Yourself High. Or the opening wobble wipe synth on We Are The Night originally used in The Sunshine Underground. Could still have unused elements. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Feb 22, 2023, 18:01
C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L., Is Justin Warfield from a longtime ago. (Is this common knowledge?)

Androidgeoff confronted Justin post concert a couple years back and apparently confirmed his vocal. He was unaware of release. I presume this has been around since 97 or when work was done on Not Another Drugstore.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Ben_j on Feb 26, 2023, 17:37
https://twitter.com/Midimatt001/status/1614967705056022528

I missed it when I forst saw that twitt last month: "FLAID" on one of the Machinedrums (and "FLIAD" on the second one). What could it be?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Feb 26, 2023, 21:17
Quote from: Ben_j on Feb 26, 2023, 17:37
https://twitter.com/Midimatt001/status/1614967705056022528

I missed it when I forst saw that twitt last month: "FLAID" on one of the Machinedrums (and "FLIAD" on the second one). What could it be?
AND
I
FEEL
LIKE
I
AM
DREAMIN'

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Ben_j on Feb 27, 2023, 09:34
Quote from: hstn on Feb 26, 2023, 21:17
AND
I
FEEL
LIKE
I
AM
DREAMIN'

 ;D ;D ;D
How did I not figure that out ? 😬
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Ben_j on Mar 01, 2023, 22:35
Random thought of the night: who do you think will direct the music videos for the new tracks? Personnaly, I'd love them to recruit Páraic McGloughlin. His videos for Wevaland Bonobo are incredible.
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/n-wEvzqdDZg

https://youtu.be/s39SDfB1iyQ
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: actionjackson780 on Mar 03, 2023, 15:48
Promoting newsletter sign-ups with a "what's next from us?" angle makes it feel like a release announcement is imminent!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CpVPU8lsbR2/?igshid=OTJlNzQ0NWM=
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Heads on Mar 03, 2023, 16:44
The same video was posted five days before TDTYF was announced, so No Reason is probably announced next week, hopefully along with the album announcement. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Mar 03, 2023, 17:25
The last hashtag is #noreason...

And a response in the twitter call out...

Quote
Stay tuned for vinyl news soon! - Chemical HQ

Good sign of potential things to come.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 17:30
Ohhh I didn't even read the Hashtags.
Is that the first confirmation of the next album title?
Straight from No Geography to No Reason ;D

Maybe the (alleged) title is not a nudge towards nihilistic philosophy but a statement that they didn't use Reason (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_(Software)) during the production of the album?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Mar 03, 2023, 18:12
rumours has it that the new albumtitle will be "fuckin' animals in erics house"
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 03, 2023, 18:36
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 03, 2023, 17:25
The last hashtag is #noreason...

And a responses in the twitter call out...

Good sign of potential things to come.
good spot missed that!!!!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 03, 2023, 18:41
Quote from: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 17:30
Ohhh I didn't even read the Hashtags.
Is that the first confirmation of the next album title?
Straight from No Geography to No Reason ;D

Maybe the (alleged) title is not a nudge towards nihilistic philosophy but a statement that they didn't use Reason (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_(Software)) during the production of the album?
Quote from: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 17:30
Ohhh I didn't even read the Hashtags.
Is that the first confirmation of the next album title?
Straight from No Geography to No Reason ;D

Maybe the (alleged) title is not a nudge towards nihilistic philosophy but a statement that they didn't use Reason (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_(Software)) during the production of the album
double post sorry but surely won't be called No Reason
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Heads on Mar 03, 2023, 18:56
The vinyl news probably hints at the RSD release of No Reason after all then.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: thg on Mar 03, 2023, 19:33
Quote from: Ben_j on Mar 01, 2023, 22:35
Random thought of the night: who do you think will direct the music videos for the new tracks? Personnaly, I'd love them to recruit Páraic McGloughlin. His videos for Wevaland Bonobo are incredible.
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/n-wEvzqdDZg

https://youtu.be/s39SDfB1iyQ
Since dreaming doesn't cost a thing, I still dream of Chris Cunningham directing a video for the brothers.
It would be a triumphant return for him.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on Mar 03, 2023, 20:00
Quote from: thg on Mar 03, 2023, 19:33
Since dreaming doesn't cost a thing, I still dream of Chris Cunningham directing a video for the brothers.
It would be a triumphant return for him.
I should hope Dreaming does cost a thing so I can buy it when The Chemical Brothers release it!!!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 20:03
Quote from: gfa2001 on Mar 03, 2023, 18:41
double post sorry but surely won't be called No Reason
Why not?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2023, 20:20
@thg Is your avatar/GIF taken from the naughty version of the Free Yourself video?

Quote from: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 17:30
Ohhh I didn't even read the Hashtags.
Is that the first confirmation of the next album title?
Straight from No Geography to No Reason


Quote from: gfa2001 on Mar 03, 2023, 18:41
...surely won't be called No Reason

At the Alexandra Palace gig in 2018 they had "Free Yourself" projected on to the outside of the entrance. I was at that one. And someone else here who went to that gig predicted that Free Yourself might be the title of the forthcoming album, not just the the title of the single. Well of course the album had a completely different title when it came out. So I'm just assuming that this NoReason hashtag is a plug for the forthcoming single (next Friday?) and nothing more than that.
EDIT: Hmm, actually the way they list all the album titles does suggest that No Reason follows on from the other albums.

Quote from: Heads on Mar 03, 2023, 18:56
The vinyl news probably hints at the RSD release of No Reason after all then.
Well as per my "bandcamp" post #67 in this thread, No Reason has already been called the "upcoming single" from the Chems. So I think it's just a question of whether the 12" isn't properly listed for RSD yet because (a) they had pressing issues or (b) they were waiting until the track had a proper launch before listing it publically. I'm still leaning towards (b) at the moment.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 21:15
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2023, 20:20
At the Alexandra Palace gig in 2018 they had "Free Yourself" projected on to the outside of the entrance. I was at that one.
I was also there :D  (The second gig on Saturday. Grand Finale of a vacation week in London for me. Good Memories :) )
Screenshot 2023-03-03 221523.png


Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2023, 20:20
EDIT: Hmm, actually the way they list all the album titles does suggest that No Reason follows on from the other albums.

Yep.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Mar 03, 2023, 22:21
I just did a search for No Reason on the SOCAN Public Repertoire website (https://www.socan.com/controller) (Canadian Licensing) and the following popped up for No Reason.

Quote
Title Work No.
NO REASON226578956
NameRoleAffiliationIPI #
ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN MOSTYNCAPRS177284931
SIMONS EDMUND JOHNCAPRS253226195
BORLAND ADRIAN KELVINCAPRS47829841
BAILEY GRAHAM JOHNCAPRS135045109
BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (UK) LIMITED (http://www.bmgchrysalis.com/category/contact/)EPRS576134244
BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT CANADA A (http://www.bmgchrysalis.com/category/contact/)SESOCAN697887645
UNKNOWN PUBENA216156786
Performers:
CHEMICAL BROTHERS
What I think this means is that the song can now legally be played in Canadian public settings.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2023, 22:35
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 03, 2023, 22:21
I just did a search for No Reason on the SOCAN Public Repertoire website (https://www.socan.com/controller) (Canadian Licensing) and the following popped up for No Reason.
 What I think this means is that the song can now legally be played in Canadian public settings.


^ How did you search the wesite? Do you need a login?

Incidentally the SACEM website doesn't have much new on there, although No Reason has been on there a while. I wonder if others with access to other rights/royalties websites can see any recent additions (besides NO Reason, Dreaming and All Of A Sudden)?..
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Mar 03, 2023, 22:40
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2023, 22:35
^ How did you search the wesite? Do you need a login?
I just went to the SOCAN website, clicked on Repertoire Search in the top right corner, and I had access without a login. Unsure if it tracks via IP. If that's the case, I wonder if it only accepts Canadian IP addresses?

But I also just found this....

Quote
TitleWork No.
FEELS LIKE I'M DREAMING225588216
NameRoleAffiliationIPI #
ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN MOSTYNCAPRS177284931
SIMONS EDMUND JOHNCAPRS253226195
ROWSELL ELLEN CIARACAPRS699654076
BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (UK) LIMITED (http://www.bmgchrysalis.com/category/contact/)EPRS576134244
BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT CANADA A (http://www.bmgchrysalis.com/category/contact/)SESOCAN697887645
UNKNOWN PUBENA216156786
Performers:
CHEMICAL BROTHERS
I'm doing a deep dive now.

Edit: Also this...
Quote
Title Work No.
THE DREAMING SONG225588216
NameRoleAffiliationIPI #
ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN MOSTYNCAPRS177284931
SIMONS EDMUND JOHNCAPRS253226195
ROWSELL ELLEN CIARACAPRS699654076
BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (UK) LIMITED (http://www.bmgchrysalis.com/category/contact/)EPRS576134244
BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT CANADA A (http://www.bmgchrysalis.com/category/contact/)SESOCAN697887645
UNKNOWN PUBENA216156786
Performers:
CHEMICAL BROTHERS

Same info, but different track title for Feels Like I'm Dreaming
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Mar 04, 2023, 07:34
any idea what that "unknown pub" means? unknown publisher?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Mar 04, 2023, 11:03
Hey, I think we slept on "All of a Sudden". I just google search the title and Chemical Brothers and someone matched it already on reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/chemicalbrothers/comments/zqmtl9/can_anyone_id_this_one_from_printworks/
the commenter spells it out, even referring to Sacem database.


Sounds like a sure-fire EBW, If not a EBW 9 knock-off...


Edit: code-ing it, because embedded link doesn't give direct link to thread (Please fix it as you see fit, Csar/Explud... or leave it, i dont care)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 04, 2023, 12:12
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 04, 2023, 11:03
Hey, I think we slept on "All of a Sudden".
No we didn't!
Scroll up 3 posts to my reply #102 above. The very last words in my post are All Of A Sudden. It's one of the three new tracks currently listed on SACEM. I suspect the Reddit person replying in that discussion is either a lurker or a member of this here forum.
We've been aware of the track since Printworks. Not Printworks 2022 but Printworks 2021 (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,2312.msg27966.html#msg27966) (point No 5).
See also reply #19 in the Printworks 2022 dj set (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3164.0.html) (3rd video).
And probably other places in the DJ threads too.

In fact, here's the instagram clip from 2021 (4th slide)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CX00_3Brn_U/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 04, 2023, 12:23
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 04, 2023, 12:12
I suspect the Reddit person replying in that discussion is either a lurker or a member of this here forum.
:-X
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Mar 04, 2023, 12:35
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 04, 2023, 12:12
No we didn't!
Scroll up 3 posts to my reply #102 above. The very last words in my post are All Of A Sudden. It's one of the three new tracks currently listed on SACEM. I suspect the Reddit person replying in that discussion is either a lurker or a member of this here forum.
We've been aware of the track since Printworks. Not Printworks 2022 but Printworks 2021 (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,2312.msg27966.html#msg27966) (point No 5).
See also reply #19 in the Printworks 2022 dj set (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3164.0.html) (3rd video).
And probably other places in the DJ threads too.

Damn, I knew we had it pegged as something new in Sacem, but didn't realize it was matched in the DJ sets already.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: thg on Mar 04, 2023, 20:29
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2023, 20:20
@thg Is your avatar/GIF taken from the naughty version of the Free Yourself video?

Yes! :D
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Enjoyed on Mar 04, 2023, 20:56
Just wanted to chime in with the backend hunting in mind.

I was on PRS looking for Chems stuff the other day, but they've changed the search function which makes it seemingly impossible to look for new works by artists. You now have to be searching for a 'title' as well as the writer. And a search for 'Dreaming', 'No Reason', 'Sudden', with Rowlands as the writer, yielded nothing at the time. And having looked through 30 odd pages of a bigger generic search of 'Chemical Brothers' came back with nothing new, sadly.

SACEM definitely seeming like the best place to treasure hunt.

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 05, 2023, 03:21
Quote from: Enjoyed on Mar 04, 2023, 20:56
a search for 'Dreaming', 'No Reason', 'Sudden', with Rowlands as the writer, yielded nothing at the time. And having looked through 30 odd pages of a bigger generic search of 'Chemical Brothers' came back with nothing new, sadly.
Bummer!

Quote from: Enjoyed on Mar 04, 2023, 20:56
I was on PRS looking for Chems stuff the other day, but they've changed the search function which makes it seemingly impossible to look for new works by artists.
Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 06, 2023, 19:16
Quote from: Stefan on Mar 03, 2023, 20:03
Why not?
Its so similar to No Geography, just a bit weird i think

It doesn't have much meaning i feel either - dunno :) 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Enjoyed on Mar 17, 2023, 06:11
Quote from: Enjoyed on Mar 04, 2023, 20:56
Just wanted to chime in with the backend hunting in mind.

I was on PRS looking for Chems stuff the other day, but they've changed the search function which makes it seemingly impossible to look for new works by artists. You now have to be searching for a 'title' as well as the writer. And a search for 'Dreaming', 'No Reason', 'Sudden', with Rowlands as the writer, yielded nothing at the time. And having looked through 30 odd pages of a bigger generic search of 'Chemical Brothers' came back with nothing new, sadly.

SACEM definitely seeming like the best place to treasure hunt.


Just gave PPL a combing as well, having forgot that it existed (my bad).

Zip.

Not sure why the UK registration databases wouldn't be as up to date, but there's nothing new on there. Not even No Reason, which is officially out and about in the UK right now.
Kinda weird.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 17, 2023, 13:07
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/the-chemical-brothers-new-song-no-reason-coachella-1235288375/

This article mentions that "they have also been at work on a new album"
Nothing really new.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gpro2005 on Mar 17, 2023, 13:41
From https://bleep.com/release/379880-the-chemical-brothers-no-reason (https://bleep.com/release/379880-the-chemical-brothers-no-reason):

Screenshot 2023-03-17 at 15.37.56.png

Quote
Press Release

The Chemical Brothers - one of the most successful bands in the history of electronic music - return with a new single. 'No Reason' has been played in their live shows and DJ sets for this past year to an immense crowd response. It is the first new music from a forthcoming new album project in 2023, a year which also marks 30 years of The Chemical Brothers' outstanding career. To mark this anniversary, 2023 will see multiple activations including a brand new album, a book, a tour and lots more in planning and development. More info to be shared in due course.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Mar 17, 2023, 16:24
Quote from: gpro2005 on Mar 17, 2023, 13:41
To mark this anniversary, 2023 will see multiple activations including a brand new album, a book, a tour and lots more in planning and development.
A book? What type of book? Coffee Table? Novel? Children's?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Champiness on Mar 17, 2023, 16:44
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 17, 2023, 16:24
A book? What type of book? Coffee Table? Novel? Children's?
This dude (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3194.0.html) made it to the big leagues.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 17, 2023, 17:04
The SACEM List has had 237 entries under Tom's name for a while now. Today it has 238.
This seems to be the addition. Could it have anything to do with Catch Me I'm Falling? Or is it a new track title?

Quote
FALLING 2710
Sous-titre(s) : FALLING 2710
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Mar 17, 2023, 18:06
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 17, 2023, 16:24
A book? What type of book? Coffee Table? Novel? Children's?
It's sort of a biography/ live experience type of book.

Quote from: Champiness on Mar 17, 2023, 16:44
This dude (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3194.0.html) made it to the big leagues.
That was a little uncalled for, don't you think?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Champiness on Mar 17, 2023, 19:47
Quote from: Csar on Mar 17, 2023, 18:06
That was a little uncalled for, don't you think?
Just a little daydream about fan love being reciprocated! Don't read into it too hard!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 17, 2023, 22:04
Quote from: gpro2005 on Mar 17, 2023, 13:41
From https://bleep.com/release/379880-the-chemical-brothers-no-reason (https://bleep.com/release/379880-the-chemical-brothers-no-reason):

[url="https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1861;type=preview;file"]Screenshot 2023-03-17 at 15.37.56.png[/url]

First confirmation that the album is expected this year
Worst-Case scenario: 287 days to go
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Mar 17, 2023, 22:35
Quote from: Csar on Mar 17, 2023, 18:06
It's sort of a biography/ live experience type of book.
That was a little uncalled for, don't you think?
Quote from: Champiness on Mar 17, 2023, 16:44
This dude (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3194.0.html) made it to the big leagues.
Maybe @Biff already secretly made a deal with Tom, Ed, and the label to make the children's book of his kids adventure to Santa Barbara I purposed here:  https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3241.msg31017.html#msg31017
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: mesamm99 on Mar 18, 2023, 00:14
In the 107.7 The End interview, Ed says they are still in the studio. I'm starting to think the album drops in October after the live shows settle down. And then another more global tour versus festivals next year. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Mar 18, 2023, 05:27
Quote from: mesamm99 on Mar 18, 2023, 00:14
In the 107.7 The End interview, Ed says they are still in the studio. I'm starting to think the album drops in October after the live shows settle down. And then another more global tour versus festivals next year.
Link to interview:

https://omny.fm/shows/seattle-knddfm-default-audio-channel/the-chemical-brothers-with-christy-taylor

It's my impression that he is cordially answering without giving away any major details. No offense to my Pacific Northwesters, he's not going to spill the news of a new album, on a simple interview for Seattle radio.

Oh yeah, and Ed is a fan of Potassium and Oxygen.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: mesamm99 on Mar 18, 2023, 14:04
Cheers to that. Getting all giddy for what's to come. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 18, 2023, 15:40
Ed mentions that he doesn't remember how many Coachellas they've played at. Maybe Whirly can help out here ;D
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Mar 18, 2023, 17:04
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 17, 2023, 22:35
Maybe @Biff already secretly made a deal with Tom, Ed, and the label to make the children's book of his kids adventure to Santa Barbara I purposed here:  https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3241.msg31017.html#msg31017
I have some doubts about that. Tom appeared rather tight-lipped when I asked about how his kids liked his music making in the Q&A back in 2016.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 18, 2023, 17:30
Kids are usually really embarrassed about their parent's taste in music.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Mar 19, 2023, 08:45
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 17, 2023, 16:24
A book? What type of book?

Confirmed information: Book has 240 pages. Page 3 to 112 are cooking recipes (mostly jerk chicken), rest of the book is about the best three haircuts in the past 30 years.


Quote from: Csar on Mar 18, 2023, 17:04
I have some doubts about that. Tom appeared rather tight-lipped when I asked about how his kids liked his music making in the Q&A back in 2016.
He was upset because you've spelled K+D+B wrong!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Mar 19, 2023, 12:25
Quote from: ThePumisher on Mar 19, 2023, 08:45
He was upset because you've spelled K+D+B wrong!
I knew you'd bring this up. How will I ever be able to atone for the biggest mistake of my life?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gavin35 on Mar 20, 2023, 12:53
I just use Kevin De Bruyne when Im trying to remember ;D
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: shakermaker on Mar 20, 2023, 15:05
Quote from: mesamm99 on Mar 18, 2023, 00:14
I'm starting to think the album drops in October after the live shows settle down.
that's it. time for me to start preparing to resist the pre-sale of the inevitable overpriced limited edition. 

I don't need it. I can do this.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Mar 22, 2023, 12:36
Deleted! See post in 'No Reason'
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Mar 22, 2023, 18:58
Random thought, wonder if we will get a recorded DJ set as part of lead up to "XDUST12"? We typically get one within the six month window of an album release. Here is a small list of what I remember (not sure on official release dates)

Essential mix 2019 (April 2019) = No Geography (April 2019 release) 
Chemical Christmas Mix (December 2015) = BITE (July 2015 release) 
Facebook mix 2007 (September 2007 release?) = WATN (July 2007 release) 
In Glint / MTV NYE 2001/2 (December 2001 release) = CWU (January 2002 release)

They are always good for a few rarities and unreleased chems tracks.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 23, 2023, 17:10
Quote from: rynostar on Mar 22, 2023, 18:58
Random thought, wonder if we will get a recorded DJ set as part of lead up to "XDUST12"? We typically get one within the six month window of an album release. Here is a small list of what I remember (not sure on official release dates)

Essential mix 2019 (April 2019) = No Geography (April 2019 release)
Chemical Christmas Mix (December 2015) = BITE (July 2015 release)
Facebook mix 2007 (September 2007 release?) = WATN (July 2007 release)
In Glint / MTV NYE 2001/2 (December 2001 release) = CWU (January 2002 release)

They are always good for a few rarities and unreleased chems tracks.
Maybe something Apple music?

Think they wouldn't do another essential mix so soon
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: nalaknip on Mar 25, 2023, 10:52
Apologies if this has already been mentioned but noticed this on the Universal Music Store link on the website. Wonder if there's an announcement due very soon?
5BBD2B24-48BB-4A9F-A6B0-5DD19C58AB35.png
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: nalaknip on Mar 27, 2023, 09:24
Ah, it's this.......... https://store.thechemicalbrothers.com/?utm_campaign=TheChemicalBrothers&utm_content=&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=Website&utm_umguk=www.thechemicalbrothers.com
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: nalaknip on Mar 27, 2023, 10:02
Preordered the new album and the confirmation email has a release date of October 27th listed. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: sneakerbeater on Mar 27, 2023, 10:15
Looking at the email the album is called "not final artwork" and has a very minimalist in glint vibe

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0734/0385/9238/products/CD_20_9_3bb1a84a-bf87-48f4-a26f-f0adc89c7da2.png?v=1679678848&width=600)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 10:40
Pre-Sale is for UK residents only :/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 27, 2023, 11:23
Quote from: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 10:40
Pre-Sale is for UK residents only :/
Just signup anyway it will probably work
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Mar 27, 2023, 11:28
Quote from: sneakerbeater on Mar 27, 2023, 10:15
Looking at the email the album is called "not final artwork" and has a very minimalist in glint vibe

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0734/0385/9238/products/CD_20_9_3bb1a84a-bf87-48f4-a26f-f0adc89c7da2.png?v=1679678848&width=600)

Best album title ever! Prove me wrong!


Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Ben_j on Mar 27, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: sneakerbeater on Mar 27, 2023, 10:15
Looking at the email the album is called "not final artwork" and has a very minimalist in glint vibe

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0734/0385/9238/products/CD_20_9_3bb1a84a-bf87-48f4-a26f-f0adc89c7da2.png?v=1679678848&width=600)
Now I legit want the album to be called that and the cover to be this 😂
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: sneakerbeater on Mar 27, 2023, 11:49
Apparently this is a Kate kibb monochrome silk screen. Stunning, some of her finest work!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 12:01
Quote from: nalaknip on Mar 27, 2023, 10:02
Preordered the new album and the confirmation email has a release date of October 27th listed.

Gahhh!
When the store page changed, I was expecting something to happen a lot more imminently than October. That's still over 6 (six!) months away. ::hb
I was also hoping it might be a double CD, as we seem to have heard a lot more unreleased Chems in the recent DJ sets than previously...



Quote from: inchemwetrust on Mar 27, 2023, 11:28
Best album title ever! Prove me wrong!

So maybe the album won't be called No Reason after all (otherwise, it would say).
I quite like the idea of a long grandiose title this time around.
Something like "Introducing the Space Gospel according to the Chemical Brothers" (hat tip to Terence Trent D'Arby (https://www.discogs.com/master/104399-Terence-Trent-DArby-Introducing-The-Hardline-According-To-Terence-Trent-DArby))
or "An ever-growing Audio lab that rules from the centre of the electro world" (hat tip to The Orb (https://www.discogs.com/release/66816-The-Orb-A-Huge-Ever-Growing-Pulsating-Brain-That-Rules-From-The-Centre-Of-The-Ultraworld))
I guess we've got another 6 (six!) months to speculate on that...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/QPQ3xlJhqR1BXl89RG/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 12:03
Quote from: Ben_j on Mar 27, 2023, 11:29
Now I legit want the album to be called that and the cover to be this 😂
No matter what it ends up being called, it will live as Not Final Artwork in my head forever
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Mar 27, 2023, 12:19
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 12:01
So maybe the album won't be called No Reason after all (otherwise, it would say).
I'm not so sure, maybe they want to fool us.

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 12:01
So maybe the album won't be called No Reason after all (otherwise, it would say).
I quite like the idea of a long grandiose title this time around.
This got me thinking: Make it so long that it'd fill the whole front cover, top to bottom, surrounding the Chems logo.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 12:25
^ With a hat tip to Soulwax?

(https://i.discogs.com/TSofUKy5DHPfJqTL0qImS0LhrqN0aWfdOeCNrlxmR8Q/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:529/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExMTM0/MzMtMTMwMzU3Mzgz/My5qcGVn.jpeg)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 12:53
Pedition to change this topic's title to "XDUST12 - Not Final Artwork"
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: shakermaker on Mar 27, 2023, 14:36
"we haven't finished this album yet and can't tell you anything about it but we'd really like you to start giving us money for it."
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 18:27
LOL. It's nice to know y'all share the same amusement about this "album" title.  :))  Love this forum

"Not Final Artwork", is basically my own personal credo.



Quote from: shakermaker on Mar 27, 2023, 14:36
"we haven't finished this album yet and can't tell you anything about it but we'd really like you to start giving us money for it."

Truth in this joke, and this is a bit concerning. Doesn't feel on-brand for Chems to do this, so what gives?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 18:40
Quote from: nalaknip on Mar 27, 2023, 10:02
Preordered the new album and the confirmation email has a release date of October 27th listed.

I apologize for giving confidence that this album was coming sooner rather than later. Humbled.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 18:56
Quote from: nalaknip on Mar 27, 2023, 10:02
Preordered the new album and the confirmation email has a release date of October 27th listed.
So, on release day for their 10th album, in their 30th anniversary year,  there will be a concert in their home town :)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: sneakerbeater on Mar 27, 2023, 19:01
I have pre ordered the album, seem very strange ordering 7 months before!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 19:33
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 18:27
Truth in this joke, and this is a bit concerning. Doesn't feel on-brand for Chems to do this, so what gives?

Quote from: sneakerbeater on Mar 27, 2023, 19:01
I have pre ordered the album, seem very strange ordering 7 months before!

I'm guessing they thought it would be finished (or nearly finsihed) by now, they shared their plans with the record company about it, and were then obliged to stick to their agreed schedule.

Quote from: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 18:56
So, on release day for their 10th album, in their 30th anniversary year,  there will be a concert in their home town :)

Depends on your definition of "home town", and I kinda blame wikipedia and lazy music journos for this one.
T&E were both born and raised in Southern England. They both have Southern English accents (Tom's posher than Ed's). They both separately attended "orbital" raves around the M25 (Southern England/London) circa 1988 prior to going to University in Manchester (Northern England). They were both attracted to Manchester by Factory Records/New Order/The Hacienda. They met at university and bonded over their common ground. They started putting on their own club nights (Naked Under Leather) in Manchester whilst they were students, and next thing you know, they were putting out 12" white labels. After they graduated from Manchester Uni, they both moved back down South where they recorded Exit Planet Dust and bought houses near each other in Notting Hill (West London). Ed still lives in Notting Hill. Tom then moved further South to the Lewes area of Sussex.

It's true that Manchester was where they met and got things rolling. But outside of their University years, I don't think it's true to say that they are from Manchester. Bill Clinton went to Oxford University. But can we say he's from Oxford?

Yeah this might seem a bit rant-y  - cos I've seen so many articles calling them a Manchester band, and I think that's a bit misleading.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 19:45
So it was more like the hometown of The Chemical Brothers (where they laid the groundwork for their music career), rather than the hometown of either Tom or Ed :D
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Mar 27, 2023, 21:23
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 12:25
^ With a hat tip to Soulwax?

(https://i.discogs.com/TSofUKy5DHPfJqTL0qImS0LhrqN0aWfdOeCNrlxmR8Q/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:529/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExMTM0/MzMtMTMwMzU3Mzgz/My5qcGVn.jpeg)
Ah, right, now I remember. So, been there, done that, nothing new. Damn.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 27, 2023, 22:13
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 19:33
I'm guessing they thought it would be finished (or nearly finsihed) by now, they shared their plans with the record company about it, and were then obliged to stick to their agreed schedule.

Depends on your definition of "home town", and I kinda blame wikipedia and lazy music journos for this one.
T&E were both born and raised in Southern England. They both have Southern English accents (Tom's posher than Ed's). They both separately attended "orbital" raves around the M25 (Southern England/London) circa 1988 prior to going to University in Manchester (Northern England). They were both attracted to Manchester by Factory Records/New Order/The Hacienda. They met at university and bonded over their common ground. They started putting on their own club nights (Naked Under Leather) in Manchester whilst they were students, and next thing you know, they were putting out 12" white labels. After they graduated from Manchester Uni, they both moved back down South where they recorded Exit Planet Dust and bought houses near each other in Notting Hill (West London). Ed still lives in Notting Hill. Tom then moved further South to the Lewes area of Sussex.

It's true that Manchester was where they met and got things rolling. But outside of their University years, I don't think it's true to say that they are from Manchester. Bill Clinton went to Oxford University. But can we say he's from Oxford?

Yeah this might seem a bit rant-y  - cos I've seen so many articles calling them a Manchester band, and I think that's a bit misleading.
Manchester is where they met and I think thats the main thing. Have they ever said what they consider it to be themself? I can get the argument both ways, but they did form in Manchester.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: chemdup on Mar 27, 2023, 22:17
It takes 6 months to get vinyl pressed these days...not surprising the album isn't out until October. Still a pity, gonna be a long summer to wait! 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 27, 2023, 22:25
Quote from: gfa2001 on Mar 27, 2023, 22:13
Manchester is where they met and I think thats the main thing. Have they ever said what they consider it to be themself? I can get the argument both ways, but they did form in Manchester.
Original comment was "Home Town"
They weren't born there, weren't raised there, don't live there.
I lived in West Africa for 3 years (about the same length of time T&E went to Uni) when I was a kid, that doesn't mean it's my homeland.

Re: where they met, my parents met in Canada. Doesn't make them Canadian.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 23:46
Quote from: chemdup on Mar 27, 2023, 22:17
It takes 6 months to get vinyl pressed these days...not surprising the album isn't out until October. Still a pity, gonna be a long summer to wait!

That seems to be the popular reason for delays, but opening presales 6 months ahead with no details other than format is a shitty practice.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: shakermaker on Mar 28, 2023, 05:16
it's really taking the mickey a bit.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on Mar 28, 2023, 09:16
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 23:46
That seems to be the popular reason for delays, but opening presales 6 months ahead with no details other than format is a shitty practice.
and no actual release date till you pay. never seen an album go onsale without the cover art before
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: VMan on Mar 28, 2023, 14:01
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 23:46
That seems to be the popular reason for delays, but opening presales 6 months ahead with no details other than format is a shitty practice.
Have to agree...
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 28, 2023, 14:10
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 27, 2023, 23:46
That seems to be the popular reason for delays, but opening presales 6 months ahead with no details other than format is a shitty practice.
Also if vinyl delays are the reason, then they could have planned this 6 months ago. Universal know the score on that stuff. They can't say "we didn't realise, we have no influence, we don't understand".
So I guess it's actually down to how ready the album was/is.



Quote from: Stefan on Mar 27, 2023, 19:45
So it was more like the hometown of The Chemical Brothers University town of Tom & Ed before they were called The Chems (where they laid the groundwork for their music career  studied, went raving, did some DJ-ing and self released a couple of 12"s), rather than the hometown of either Tom or Ed :D

Exactly!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Mar 29, 2023, 04:00
Can we change the 'No Geography' topic to 'Not Final Artwork' now? 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on May 09, 2023, 01:21
Referring back to KEXP interview that Csar translated to text (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php?msg=32045) about "one reoccurring hero" in terms of future collaboration on new album...

Anyone have an inkling?

I want to say, Beck. I've only recently followed Beck on instagram but they (Chems HQ/ Ed/Beck) seem to "like" each others post a bit often, no? Maybe I'm looking into that too much and projecting my likings, but I think the crossover appeal is pretty strong between the two and a second collaboration would be pretty logical.

Any thoughts on someone else?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: neorev on May 09, 2023, 06:18
Another Noel collab?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 09, 2023, 14:38
Hoping for Stephanie Dosen or Beth Orton
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: thg on May 09, 2023, 18:12
More than 20 years waiting for another collab with Bernard Sumner.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on May 09, 2023, 20:03
Quote from: Bosco on May 09, 2023, 01:21
Referring back to KEXP interview that Csar translated to text (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php?msg=32045) about "one reoccurring hero" in terms of future collaboration on new album...
Anyone have an inkling?
I want to say, Beck. I've only recently followed Beck on instagram but they (Chems HQ/ Ed/Beck) seem to "like" each others post a bit often, no? Maybe I'm looking into that too much and projecting my likings, but I think the crossover appeal is pretty strong between the two and a second collaboration would be pretty logical.
Any thoughts on someone else?
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940009599799554071/1099517138726817792/image.png)
I think it's gonna be Tim Burgess
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on May 09, 2023, 21:08
A reoccurring hero collaborator? Hmm lets see...

Beth Orton: It occurred to me that the new "warped pop/rock/indie" track may not actually be Ellie Rowsell (who currently has a credit on SACEM for Dreaming). It could perhaps be Beth? Maybe?
But we have had her a couple of times before, (and Tom worked on Call Me The Breeze). Would it be overkill bringing her back again? Chances: medium

Tim Burgess: I'm a big fan of Life Is Sweet although I've always felt Tim's vocal sounded a bit weak or reedy on that tune. Just me? His voice sounds much better on The Boxer. Anyway, clearly he has collab'd a couple of times before and then there were all those Charlatans remixes (Toothache, Patrol, Nine Acre Dust). So we have already had quite a lot of Tim/Chems crossover. Whether that means: no more, or "can't wait to collab again" is down to interpretation I guess. I have noticed that Tim often says nice things about the Chems on social media, so he would probably be an easy 'invitation'. Chances: medium to high.
https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess/status/1298719807831814144
EDIT: ah I've just seen HSTNs post. I'm jumping this to VERY HIGH.

Noel Gallagher: Well we've had two very high profile collabs from Noel, plus the Chems remix of Falling Down. Would this feel too much like a retro trip to the 90s if they collab'd again? I think it would. Chances: Low

Bernard Sumner: Well it may be 20 years since OOC but it's not 20 years since a Bernard Collab.
On New Order's 2015 album Music Complete, Unlearn This Hatred was produced by Tom Rowlands. I would suggest that the track is largely a collab between Bernard (writer/vox) and Tom (producer). The other members of the band are almost incidental on this track. Tom was also involved with production/synths on Singularity. Also after the album's release Tom did a remix of Tutti Frutti.

As well as the above, of course we have Here To Stay from 2002, and we have Bernard's vocals popping up on Temptation/SG live. So I wonder if the Chems may be all Bernard-ed out.
Having said that, Bernard is clearly still open to the idea of collabs in general, as he recently released one with Mella Dee (which I posted  here (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,60.msg31337.html#msg31337)). He also did a 17 minute video interview with Mella Dee for NME recently where he told his old Chems story of having all the guitars discarded from his recordings (for OOC). He is asked about forthcoming projects and mentions Arcade Fire (remix in the can) but nothing about a new Chems collab. Interview: here (https://www.nme.com/news/music/new-order-bernard-sumner-and-mella-dee-on-riptide-the-state-of-the-world-and-whats-next-3438828)
Chances: low to  medium.

Richard Ashcroft: Well The Test is kinda awesome, one of the best guest vocals ever. But The Verve are no more and I don't think Ashcroft's solo career is blowing people away these days. Chances: low.

Q-Tip: We've had him on Galvanize and more recently on Go. On the one hand, he has really done the business on both occasions. On the other hand, getting him back for a third time might be overkill. Chances: low

Stephanie Dosen: Love her voice on Further and Hanna, and would be happy to hear her again on Chems tracks, but I'm not sure she counts as a returning hero. Outside of hardcore Chems fans, most people wouldn't even know her as a Chems collaborator.

Beck: Wide Open is a really well written song, and I've nocticed the Chems play Beck's Sea Change album when setting up for their gigs (what a gorgeous album that is). But is it too soon? 2015 is relatively recent isn't it? I guess if the song is good enough then I wouldn't complain. Chances: low to medium.

Aurora: Too soon. Chances: very low.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on May 09, 2023, 21:27
Miguel
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on May 10, 2023, 03:31
@Wolkenkrabber ,

Now that's a Charles Miner approved rundown!

(https://storage.googleapis.com/kaggle-avatars/images/510053-kg.jpg)


Great detective work @hstn , though Tim's response was a bit vague. It possibly could mean anytime in future, but I'll give benefit of a doubt and say Tim is probably a favorite for XDUST12.




Not that I have any evidence to further my case, but I would like to expound on my selection for Beck...

Of the people listed in Wolkenkrabber's list, Beck is the most multi-dimensional vocal artists. He can probably capture any type of feeling or genre Tom and Ed throw at him, including some nerdy-styled rapping (which he is pretty clever and good at!). He'll also write them some unique and meaningful lyrics if that's his task. He's even worked with common ground favorites like The (O.G.) Dust Brothers and Beth Orton. Coming from a label/marketing perspective, he's a mutl-grammy award winner (so are Chems) and I gotta imagine management would be happy accommodating any work with him.

I'd like to think 'Wide Open' isn't a one-off thing.

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on May 10, 2023, 09:20
Bloc Party are about at the moment, how about Kele Okereke?

maybe we need the return of Fatlip - can be a song about post-brexit fishing or something
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: sneakerbeater on May 10, 2023, 16:51
Personally speaking I have alway wanted a Bobby gallespie collaboration. This man only doing backing vocals for the chems is not enough! I'd happily take a Bernard Sumner or Tim Burgess any day over any other collaborators they have worked with in the past. 

Would anyone prefer a Liam Gallagher Collab over a Noel Gallagher Collab? I've never dug oasis, everyone of my generation had their first 2 album except me it would seem. They Gallagher are knobs, but Liam get bonus points for charm and his voice is pretty solid these days.




Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on May 10, 2023, 19:07
Quote from: sneakerbeater on May 10, 2023, 16:51
Personally speaking I have alway wanted a Bobby gallespie collaboration. This man only doing backing vocals for the chems is not enough! I'd happily take a Bernard Sumner or Tim Burgess any day over any other collaborators they have worked with in the past.

Would anyone prefer a Liam Gallagher Collab over a Noel Gallagher Collab? I've never dug oasis, everyone of my generation had their first 2 album except me it would seem. They Gallagher are knobs, but Liam get bonus points for charm and his voice is pretty solid these days.





didn't Liam have a disdain for the Brothers?


Quote from: Stefan on May 09, 2023, 14:38
Hoping for Stephanie Dosen or Beth Orton
Also I have a strong feeling those are Stephanie's vocals on that Warped Pop song
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OeLoXLU6Moo
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on May 11, 2023, 11:29
Quote from: sneakerbeater on May 10, 2023, 16:51
Personally speaking I have alway wanted a Bobby gallespie collaboration. This man only doing backing vocals for the chems is not enough! I'd happily take a Bernard Sumner or Tim Burgess any day over any other collaborators they have worked with in the past.

Would anyone prefer a Liam Gallagher Collab over a Noel Gallagher Collab? I've never dug oasis, everyone of my generation had their first 2 album except me it would seem. They Gallagher are knobs, but Liam get bonus points for charm and his voice is pretty solid these days.





Firmly camp Noel

Liam is a dickhead and his solo output is appalling. Noel's is in a completely different league
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: thg on May 11, 2023, 12:27
Lets not forget abou Ali Love.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Tracklist of Not Final Artwork anyone? IS there a track we can 100% confirm?

Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on May 15, 2023, 10:47
Tom No No.mov
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: gfa2001 on May 15, 2023, 10:51
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Tracklist of Not Final Artwork anyone? IS there a track we can 100% confirm?

  • No Reason - 100%
  • The Darkness That You Fear - 50%, personaly i don't think so, but we have this short video of a different version, so maybe...
  • All Of A Sudden - 75%, i would love to find this on NFA, but there's a 25% chance it stays a b-side
  • Feels Like I Am Dreaming - 100%
  • Warped Pop/Rock/Indie Track - no idea %
  • Big Beat Space Gospel - no idea %
  • Work Energy Principle - 0%
  • Problem/Question - 0%
  • Superflash (studio version) - 0%
  • Snow/Surface (studio version as japan exclusive bonus track) - in my dreams there is a superdopefantastic2000³ % chance, but in real life it's more like 0%
The key thing with TDTYF is HAAi saying it would be on it when remixing it

that was ages ago so easily could have changed.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on May 15, 2023, 17:35
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Tracklist of Not Final Artwork anyone? IS there a track we can 100% confirm?

  • No Reason - 100%
  • The Darkness That You Fear - 50%, personaly i don't think so, but we have this short video of a different version, so maybe...
  • All Of A Sudden - 75%, i would love to find this on NFA, but there's a 25% chance it stays a b-side
  • Feels Like I Am Dreaming - 100%
  • Warped Pop/Rock/Indie Track - no idea %
  • Big Beat Space Gospel - no idea %
  • Work Energy Principle - 0%
  • Problem/Question - 0%
  • Superflash (studio version) - 0%
  • Snow/Surface (studio version as japan exclusive bonus track) - in my dreams there is a superdopefantastic2000³ % chance, but in real life it's more like 0%
I feel like Warped Pop and BBSG should have a higher chance, my hunch still feels that Stephanie sings on it and then BBSG feels too...grand to not end up on an album or at least have a more prominent position in the new era

I wouldn't count WEP in this tho seeing as it was a No Geography era outtake, but TDTYTF easily could have a re-edit a la Get Up On It Like This

I'd LOVE if All Of A Sudden appeared on the album but with how closely linked it appears to No Reason now I think it may just end up staying a B side

What I'd love to know is where does that leave the other WOO track Rock Witchu?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 19:38
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Tracklist of Not Final Artwork anyone? IS there a track we can 100% confirm?

1) No Reason. Agree 100%
2) TDTYF. I think it probably will be on the album. It's part of the post-NG era, they made a muisc video for it, and then more recenty posted that acapella on instagram in relation to new music. On physical copies of the album (and adverts) they can write "includes the hits, No Reason and TDTYF" from the first day of release. Insta post under spoiler
Spoiler
https://www.instagram.com/p/CnCD-cSpMWA/
3) All Of A Sudden.  I predict: bonus track.
4) Dreaming. Agree 100%
5) Warped Pop/Rock/Indie Track. Yes 100%
6) Big Beat Space Gospel. Yes 100%. A perfect album closer.
7) Work Energy Principle. It's true that we first heard it in the 2019 Essential Mix but it came out on the B-side of TDTYF. If the A-side can make it (and I think it will) then the B-side could be a bonus track.
8, 9 & 10) Nope (and I think you know it Pumisher!)


Quote from: hstn on May 15, 2023, 17:35
What I'd love to know is where does that leave the other WOO track Rock Witchu?

It feels like such a DJ track that I wonder if it may end up either
a) unreleased, like Pumisher's Erection Song.
b) a Japan-only bonus track like Direct Buki.

Also where does that leave the Ass Shaker/Conga track? Lyrics seem to be: "Feel it, Feel it".
Another very dancefloor-friendly track. As I've said before, the Chems not only posted this after Amnesia Ibiza (their first DJ date of the bunch) but at the time they actually pinned it. Would they do that if it wasn't Chemical? [EDIT: apparently they would] It's exactly 7 months since that date and it remains un-shazamable. I think it's Chemical, [EDIT: I'm wrong!] and I think/hope it will on the album [EDIT: It won't be]. Insta under spoiler tag
Spoiler
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjxpZMorLTF/



There are additional unidentified tracks from their DJ Sets which may or may not be Chemical:

A) The Roy Ayers sampling track heard in the Fabrik Madrid thread: "Hey Uh, What You Say Come On?". On the forum here (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3210.msg30470.html#msg30470) (4th slide). [EDIT: not Chemical]

B) The "basic bitch" groove, also from Fabrik Madrid.
Might be too basic to be a Chems track but I can't ID it. Anyone else? Listen from 7:07 under the spoiler
Spoiler
https://youtu.be/BtRhZKYR_rA?t=427

C and D) The two clips I flagged up (again) in The Printworks thread on 7th of May here. (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3164.msg32325.html#msg32325) Thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Explud on May 15, 2023, 20:27
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
All Of A Sudden
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Work Energy Principle
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Problem/Question
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Superflash (studio version)
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Snow/Surface


https://youtu.be/0LwVw50jjpg
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 20:40
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 19:38
A) The Roy Ayers sampling track heard in the Fabrik Madrid thread: "Hey Uh, What You Say Come On?". On the forum here (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3210.msg30470.html#msg30470) (4th slide).
That's a nope, it's this with some samples and edits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seO0x_GpMcA (The drop is around the 3 minute mark)

Before anyone gives me any music knowledge kudos, the Google song recognition thingy found it
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 20:51
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 19:38
Also where does that leave the Ass Shaker/Conga track? Lyrics seem to be: "Feel it, Feel it".
Another very dancefloor-friendly track. As I've said before, the Chems not only posted this after Amnesia Ibiza (their first DJ date of the bunch) but at the time they actually pinned it. Would they do that if it wasn't Chemical? It's exactly 7 months since that date and it remains un-shazamable. I think it's Chemical, and I think/hope it will on the album. Insta under spoiler tag
Spoiler
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjxpZMorLTF/
I think Google has another hit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE1O_6vxPhw (ca. 2:40 onwards)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 21:19
Tried that Google thingy on Warp Track and it detected nothing.
On Big Beat Space Gospel, it said as result "Speech by Jesse Jackson", so this might indeed be where the vocal sample comes from.


Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 21:29
Quote from: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 20:40
That's a nope, it's this {Mark Broom] with some samples and edits

Before anyone gives me any music knowledge kudos, the Google song recognition thingy found it

Quote from: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 20:51
I think Google has another hit... (ca. 2:40 onwards)

Ah OK well that rules those two out. I guess the Chems added the "feel it" vocals to the Konkrete Kanun track.

What is this Google song recognition thing you refer to?


Quote from: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 21:19
...On Big Beat Space Gospel, it said as result "Speech by Jesse Jackson",

Aha.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 22:03
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 21:29
What is this Google song recognition thing you refer to?
It's a built-in functionality: when I click the microphone to enter a search prompt via speech recognition on the Google search app, a button appears on the bottom "identify music". The phone is a Pixel from 2017, don't know if this is an exclusive function or a standard Android feature.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: hstn on May 15, 2023, 22:10
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 21:29
Ah OK well that rules those two out. I guess the Chems added the "feel it" vocals to the Konkrete Kanun track.
What is this Google song recognition thing you refer to?
Aha.
https://youtu.be/txbNNKzZd9w?t=45 I CRACKED THE CODE (excuse the crying baby lol)
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 15, 2023, 22:33
Awesome, great find!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 23:33
Well done folks.
I got that google "search for a song" thing up on my phone.
It worked on the Konkrete Kanun track and also on the Mark Broom track. But even when I did it directly on the Jesse Jackson clip in HSTN's post, it didn't recognise it.  ???

Anyway it seems One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism (https://www.discogs.com/master/248985-Aretha-Franklin-One-Lord-One-Faith-One-Baptism) by Aretha Franklin is where this is taken from. Track 10.

This Cirrus track that also samples Rev Jesse is pretty good once it gets going. Has a sort of 90s big beat feel to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCTFECnkJg
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on May 16, 2023, 08:03
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 23:33
This Cirrus track that also samples Rev Jesse is pretty good once it gets going. Has a sort of 90s big beat feel to it.
Yep, that album is from 1998 and is mainly big beat/ breakbeat stuff.

Also, an old schoolish track mentioned in the comment section
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxUW8gJ7sFE

Funny! I just re-visited the below Cirrus track that I've loved ever since I listened to Fatboy Slim's On the Floor at the Boutique for the first time. And guess what? That sample's there, too!

https://youtu.be/Iuf1vYj0AN4?t=3094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CVXscCtuc8
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on May 16, 2023, 08:41
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 23:33
Well done folks.
I got that google "search for a song" thing up on my phone.
It worked on the Konkrete Kanun track and also on the Mark Broom track. But even when I did it directly on the Jesse Jackson clip in HSTN's post, it didn't recognise it.  ???
It took a few tries during various parts of the song for the app to recognize anything.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Jun 16, 2023, 20:50
Was checking to see if there was anything new on SACEM and noticed the number was now 231 entries while last time I checked, there was 229. 

I scrolled through the list to see if there was anything new, and the only thing I spotted was what I am pretty positive is a new entry with the title "TASTE THE HONEY FEAT S" with the subtitle "A TASTE OF HONEY"

Obviously this is in reference to their track Taste of Honey, with the "S' probably being Stephanie Dosen who was mentioned earlier in this thread as being the vocalist for Taste of Honey. But the question is, why has this entry just been added now? Perhaps they are adding it to the live show, or something? Or maybe there will be a third version of the same song on XDUST12! Or maybe it's just nothing noteworthy. 

Quote from: hstn on May 15, 2023, 17:35
What I'd love to know is where does that leave the other WOO track Rock Witchu?

PRAYING it's a B-Side to something upcoming or a Japan exclusive, more likely the latter as it doesn't seem to be on SACEM. It's my favorite of the unreleased tracks so far (maybe excluding Big Beat Space Gospel) and I would hate to see it go unreleased. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 21, 2023, 09:00
Scroll up ⬆️ two or three posts and you'll see a 4 For Money track embedded by Csar called "It's a Moment In Time" featuring a sample of Jesse Jackson from that Space Gospel track. I gotta say well done to Csar for also remembering that Tom's previous band, Ariel sampled the same Jesse Jackson speech in Every Day Of My Life (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,134.msg32416.html#msg32416) back in 1993. Surely he deserved more than one like for that!

Anyway, Ed has just posted this instagram with "It's a moment in time" as his comment. I guess that's a nod to the above Jesse-sampling track. Mind you, I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't actually say "It's a moment in time", he says "It's morning time".
I suspect the huge Jesse Jackson sample is here to stay (pun intended) and perhaps "It's Morning Time" would be a good official title for Space Gospel.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ctviw_AAtbr/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Jun 22, 2023, 01:26
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 21, 2023, 09:00
Scroll up ⬆️ two or three posts and you'll see a 4 For Money track embedded by Csar called "It's a Moment In Time" featuring a sample of Jesse Jackson from that Space Gospel track. I gotta say well done to Csar for also remembering that Tom's previous band, Ariel sampled the same Jesse Jackson speech in Every Day Of My Life (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,134.msg32416.html#msg32416) back in 1993. Surely he deserved more than one like for that!

Anyway, Ed has just posted this instagram with "It's a moment in time" as his comment. I guess that's a nod to the above Jesse-sampling track. Mind you, I'm pretty sure Jackson doesn't actually say "It's a moment in time", he says "It's morning time".
I suspect the huge Jesse Jackson sample is here to stay (pun intended) and perhaps "It's Morning Time" would be a good official title for Space Gospel.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ctviw_AAtbr/
I quite like that, but my personal favorite is "Fear No Evil"

Hopefully we can get some good clips of it from this DJ set with the Jesse Jackson vocal!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jun 22, 2023, 08:41
Glastonbury ist often recorded, but I guess that's not the case for DJ sets?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 22, 2023, 09:21
Quote from: Stefan on Jun 22, 2023, 08:41
Glastonbury ist often recorded, but I guess that's not the case for DJ sets?
Yeah I kinda rambled on about that in my opening post for Glasto '22 here (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3058.0.html), which has now morphed into the thread for Glasto '23. But what I didn't mention is that DJ sets at festivals are sometimes recorded by BBC Radio/BBC Sounds. They then suddenly pop up a week or two later, either on the website/app or as part of Pete Tong's show, or part of a 6 Music "festival special". However DJ sets may be edited down from two hours to one hour.

I listen to a lot of Radio 1 and 6 Music dance shows on the BBC Sounds app, so obviously I'll keep an eye out after Glastonbury is over. I guess the Chems would tell us on SM too.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jun 22, 2023, 11:46
A recording of a DJ set would be awesome!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Jun 22, 2023, 20:23
We could more closely inspect for new Chems and maybe even make a setlist! And the Chems DJ sets have introduced me to several amazing songs and artists, I would want it honestly just to find some new awesome songs if nothing else.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: neorev on Jun 25, 2023, 23:10
"Woo Suicide" sample at 1:16
The lyric actually goes... "Say woo! It's too hot. Say woo! it's a sure shot"


The "I wanna rock with you" lyric is also from this song.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Jun 25, 2023, 23:35
Quote from: neorev on Jun 25, 2023, 23:10
"Woo Suicide" sample at 1:16
The lyric actually goes... "Say woo! It's too hot. Say woo! it's a sure shot"


I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS TRACK!!! 

Hearing this is so surreal and cool, reminding me of when the No Reason sample was found!  :partyG :luv
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: neorev on Jun 25, 2023, 23:38
Quote from: ; on Jun 25, 2023, 23:35
I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS TRACK!!!

Hearing this is so surreal and cool, reminding me of when the No Reason sample was found!  :partyG :luv
I saw folks were still trying to figure out the lyrics in the Glastonbury thread. I watched that 12 minute video of their DJ set from Friday and heard the woo sure shot part, but thought I also heard the word hot. So I Googled "woo sure shot hot lyrics" and found this Xanadu song several links down. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: neorev on Jun 25, 2023, 23:50
The "I wanna rock with you" lyric is also from this song.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jun 26, 2023, 04:46
Nice find! So Pumisher and Gavin heard correctly and I googled a completely wrong song

I think we can also file this under "highly likely"
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jun 28, 2023, 10:24
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 19:38
9 ) Nope (and I think you know it Pumisher!)
So, with Superflash getting a physical release...
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 28, 2023, 10:34
Quote from: ThePumisher on Jun 28, 2023, 10:24
So, with Superflash getting a physical release...
Then it's definitely not going to be on the album! It's an exclusive item to go with the book isn't it?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jun 28, 2023, 13:34
Japan exclusive bonus track or iTunes USA exclusive?



edit: is the itunes store still a thing? or is it just apple music today?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: whitelabel84 on Jul 13, 2023, 04:34
Announcement imminent ??
Web store (error) message

#watchthisspace 🤔

IMG_1223.jpeg
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 13, 2023, 16:54

Chems.png
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 14, 2023, 21:25
Quote from: whitelabel84 on Jul 13, 2023, 04:34
Announcement imminent ??

Gotta be. I look forward to a change of thread title away from Not Final Artwork.

https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1679952559132364807
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ; on Jul 15, 2023, 00:07
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 14, 2023, 21:25
Gotta be. I look forward to a change of thread title away from Not Final Artwork.

https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1679952559132364807
I'll miss that name... and probably always jokingly refer to it as such.

I might me looking a little too deeply into nothing, but I think the fact the discussion thread about the new album on the official Chems forum is named after a joke title that fans lovingly gave it is hugely representative of how awesome and down to Earth this fanbase (and the Chems themselves!) really is. Not afraid to get a little silly from time to time. And the type to take a joke and run with it (looking at you, Jerk Chicken). 

No Reason will always be Woo Track, Live Again will always be Warped Pop/Reflexion 2.0, BBSG (whatever it ends up being) will always be BBSG, and Rock Witchu (if it comes out (hopefully soon!)) will always be Rock Witchu, etc.

I'll be refreshing SACEM and the chems music page frequently!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 15, 2023, 03:55
Looks like we'll get a proper music video for Live Again together with the official album announcement
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jul 15, 2023, 04:24
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 14, 2023, 21:25
Gotta be. I look forward to a change of thread title away from Not Final Artwork.
https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1679952559132364807
Boombox looks to be a Philips D8134, with either a custom made "dancing" decibel equalizer meter or just a computer generated overlay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbhrmWI7Zdc


I could totally see them doing a novelty thing and adding a limited run of cassette tapes for the new album.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 15, 2023, 21:58
Quote from: ; on Jul 15, 2023, 00:07
I think the fact the discussion thread about the new album on the official Chems forum is named after a joke title that fans lovingly gave it is hugely representative of how awesome and down to Earth this fanbase (and the Chems themselves!) really is.

can we make special limited edition "not final artwork" shirts?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Jul 17, 2023, 17:00
And the email blast that just went out has a countdown for Wednesday with the following copy.

Quote
New video and album news coming this Wednesday...

tried to upload the gif of boombox as well, but file size was too large
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Champiness on Jul 17, 2023, 17:37
It interests me that they've been so forthright about the existence of a new album without ever (until this Wednesday, it appears) ever just coming out and saying anything about it. Part of it might be - as has been speculated - that they initially planned to get it out sometime earlier in the year and were only partially able to slow the promotional gears once they decided to give it more time in the oven, but the fact that they're announcing the announcement like this also makes me wonder if there could be something to it that makes it a surprise above and beyond the confirmed details of a new Chems record? idk, just putting a pin in that.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: sneakerbeater on Jul 17, 2023, 17:41
On 6 music this morning they said the new album was to drop in 2 months time. Hopefully this is true, mid September sounds more appealing than the pre order date of the 27th October ! I guess we'll find out in a couple of days! 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 17, 2023, 19:07
Oh, that would be a lot earlier than expected!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 17, 2023, 19:14
Album announcement on Wednesday:

Screenshot 2023-07-17 211508.jpg
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 17, 2023, 21:56
I love announcements about announcements
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 18, 2023, 05:39
not final announcements
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jul 18, 2023, 05:48
Quote from: Champiness on Jul 17, 2023, 17:37
makes me wonder if there could be something to it that makes it a surprise above and beyond the confirmed details of a new Chems record?

well, care to share what you might be speculating?


There was talk about on here about how jammed-up vinyl production could delay this release. But when we got that tidbit from the recent Coachella KROQ (?) interview, I think we (or, maybe just me) were surprised hearing  the album release wasn't more imminent.

The book was a surprise. Maybe also time for a new "Best Of" type compilation?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jul 18, 2023, 05:50
Quote from: ThePumisher on Jul 18, 2023, 05:39
not final announcements

eve of anticipation
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 18, 2023, 06:28
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 18, 2023, 05:48
well, care to share what you might be speculating?


There was talk about on here about how jammed-up vinyl production could delay this release. But when we got that tidbit from the recent Coachella KROQ (?) interview, I think we (or, maybe just me) were surprised hearing  the album release wasn't more imminent.

The book was a surprise. Maybe also time for a new "Best Of" type compilation?
Wasn't the Coachella interview the one where Tom stated that they were still in the studio at that time?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: whirlygirl on Jul 18, 2023, 14:12
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 18, 2023, 06:28
Wasn't the Coachella interview the one where Tom stated that they were still in the studio at that time?

Haha the Coachella bit was the 'album-is-91%-finished-but-not-gonna-hold-Tom-to-that' interview.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Bosco on Jul 18, 2023, 17:10
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 18, 2023, 06:28
Wasn't the Coachella interview the one where Tom stated that they were still in the studio at that time?

https://youtu.be/8Lj4OeXIPPk
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 18, 2023, 21:11
The last album had a sort of Brexit or post-Brexit vibe about some of the lyrics/titles.
I wonder if the new one will have a pandemic or post-pandemic vibe about it?
We've had: No reason to live, and Live Again as lyrics/titles. Could "Live Again" (in relation to the pandemic) be the album title?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 18, 2023, 23:13
Quote from: rynostar on Jul 18, 2023, 23:06
The marketing team is not even hiding the fact that the video is for Live Again now. They have YT waiting video on my main queue with full title.

When I hit play, it says: premieres at 1400 (Uk time). It's just gone midnight here, so thats in 13 hours 47 minutes. How may minutes can y'all see on the countdown clock on our front page?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 18, 2023, 23:16
e: XDUST12
The Twitter 3 second snippet from last Friday had "Live Again" audio with it. 

Also, I think the counter is wrong on this forum. When I go to the link in the email they sent out it shows 13 hours 49 mins from the time of this post. 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Jul 18, 2023, 23:23
Yeah, my bad.  I've corrected it. Wolkenkrabber just made me aware of it.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 19, 2023, 13:02
"For That Beautiful Feeling"

Will be released on September 8th :)

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu4T3ybMsbN/
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: nekoland on Jul 19, 2023, 13:03
For that beautiful feeling  :luv
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:09
Beck back already? I would have lost money on that.
New mix of TDTYF? I would have won money on that.
No sign of All Of A Sudden. Could still be a bonus track though?

T&E at 2:48 in the video

I'm vaguely reminded of the Midnite Madness vid. Solo dancer with shiny clothing..
Maybe a little bit of Let Forever Be too - with the changing scenery.

Track 4: Goodbye must be Big Beat Space Gospel.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 19, 2023, 13:22
Whait what

I can't find that post, but didn't somebody here joked recently that the album might be released on cassette?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: whirlygirl on Jul 19, 2023, 13:25
What a beautiful day to hear about For That Beautiful Feeling!  :luv
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: VMan on Jul 19, 2023, 13:26
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:09
Track 4: Goodbye must be Big Beat Space Gospel.
I went straight to look for 'till we meet again"
' but does sound like it could be track 4.

Absolutely made up!!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:31
Quote from: whirlygirl on Jul 19, 2023, 13:25
What a beautiful day to hear about For That Beautiful Feeling!  :luv
It's mornin' time!

Oh also: Bundles (https://store.thechemicalbrothers.com/?utm_campaign=TheChemicalBrothers&utm_content=&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=Website&utm_umguk=www.thechemicalbrothers.com)...that cost bundles!

CD tracklisting is the same as the Insta post. Trying to see if there's an expanded tracklisting for other formats but so far no joy.
I always want more...

EDIT
Track timings on the 2LP + Hoodie listing:

Side A
01_Intro 1:09
02_Live Again 5:10
03_No Reason 4:52
04_Goodbye 5:50

Side B
01_Fountains 3:45
02_Magic Wand 2:27
03_The Weight 3:43

Side C
01_Skipping Like A Stone 4:41
02_The Darkness That You Fear 3:44

Side D
01_Feels Like I Am Dreaming 6:58
02_For That Beautiful Feeling 4:14

I like the fact that the T-shirt & Hoodie doesn't scream Chemcial Brothers. I always feel that a band should pay me to advertise their name. Just the artwork: That's all I want from a band Tee.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Jul 19, 2023, 13:31
i love that this video can be just played on a loop. every time i hear this song i want to play it again—just need an extended cut video..

really liking the artwork and the vibe of everything so far..

and even if i want more new content, very happy to see tdtyf on the album..the feel of this album makes me think this could be the most accomplished, musically-mature chems album yet
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Jul 19, 2023, 13:31
For the non-social media users

(https://media.pitchfork.com/photos/64b7e2cdb38a7969a7866a59/master/pass/The-Chemical-Brothers-For-That-Beautiful-Feeling.jpg)
The cover looks, well, interesting...
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Jul 19, 2023, 13:33
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:31
Oh also: Bundles (https://store.thechemicalbrothers.com/?utm_campaign=TheChemicalBrothers&utm_content=&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=Website&utm_umguk=www.thechemicalbrothers.com)...that cost bundles!
yet we haven't quite any choice now have we
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Csar on Jul 19, 2023, 13:41
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:09
New mix of TDTYF?
Will be interesting how different it will be from the "original" mix.
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:09
No sign of All Of A Sudden. Could still be a bonus track though?
This is a good sign!

Quote from: GLAKO-FAHN on Jul 19, 2023, 13:33
yet we haven't quite any choice now have we
Undecided yet. CD or cassette, what will it be?
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 19, 2023, 13:50
What else can I say? 
I can't wait FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL FEELING to come <3 

42 days from now isn't that far to be honest <3 

Also I'm really surprised that we've actually got the alt mix of The Darkness, I'm really ok with that. 
I just wonder what happened to "Rock Witchu" does it appear under the different name, or will it be avalible as the bonus for japan, or something like that
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 19, 2023, 14:00
Just listened to both "Live Again" and "No Reason" from the album version on Apple Music... check it out... both have some surprises.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Stefan on Jul 19, 2023, 14:05
What track do you think will be the Big Beat Space Gospel?
I'm thinking it'll be "Goodbye" (because of the 'Till we meet again sample).
I seriously hope they won't pull a Superflash where they DJ and play the song live and then hide it behind the couch.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Funk Electric on Jul 19, 2023, 14:36
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jul 19, 2023, 14:00
Just listened to both "Live Again" and "No Reason" from the album version on Apple Music... check it out... both have some surprises.

Interesting. For the non-Apple Music folk, can you give us a hint? 

Anything along the lines of the higher key acid breakdown that they use in the live rendition of No Reason?

Personally, I'm hoping Live Again transitions into No Reason, as they sound awkward alongside each other in isolation.
 
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 19, 2023, 14:56
Transition into No Reason... and a little fun extra 30ish seconds at the end of No Reason... assuming it transitions into the next track. I would imagine it's on Spotify as well.... but have not confirmed yet.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: Joslyn on Jul 19, 2023, 16:35
Wow, no topic yet? Well, let's get started on all comments For thst beautifull feeling.

So I guess there are 4 tracks we have heard already, curveball being the Harvest remix of TDTYF.

Pretty excited, very colourfull artwork. I think it's going to be a happy album.

I am surprised by the prices of the album. £ 60/€ 70 the 3LP is a lot, especialy after spending £ 130 on the book. It seems to be a nice album though as much of the album description goes into detailing package.

What are your thoughts?

Chembase Annotation: Merged posts due to board renaming which made it briefly invisible.
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jul 19, 2023, 16:59
Delete this!

Edit: @Csar didn't know it was briefly gone !t didn't show up and all Joslyn made a new one!

Since I'm editing, is this a first for the Chems to have the first track called 'Intro'?

The video! I get some little LFB vibes from it, but overall like the cgi bg changing up everytime he dancer gets out of the trailer. She's flexible!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: rynostar on Jul 19, 2023, 17:02
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:31
01_Intro 1:09
I'm actually amazed that T&E have never used "Intro" as the start of an album in the past. We had "No Path To Follow" on WATN as an "intro", but never a track simply title "Intro".

Also,

Not Final Artwork is dead. Long Live Final Artwork: For That Beautiful Feeling.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 19, 2023, 17:10
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Jul 19, 2023, 16:59
Delete this!
No, because we want that new album!
Title: Re: XDUST12
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jul 19, 2023, 17:14
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 13:09
Beck back already? I would have lost money on that.
New mix of TDTYF? I would have won money on that.
No sign of All Of A Sudden. Could still be a bonus track though?

T&E at 2:48 in the video

I'm vaguely reminded of the Midnite Madness vid. Solo dancer with shiny clothing..
Maybe a little bit of Let Forever Be too - with the changing scenery.

Track 4: Goodbye must be Big Beat Space Gospel.
Yep! My bingo card did not have BECK on there! Very surprised!

@2:48! I saw the vid like 3 times and I still missed it lol! And I just got my glasses yesterday.  :))

The 3LP version has a poster? Needs more goodies for me to drop money on that but will take the usual 2LP. But the artwork is vastly WAY different then what we usually see from their album covers.

Sept 8 is closer than we think!

Good to be excited again for the new album
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 19, 2023, 17:37
Final Artwork!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 19, 2023, 17:39
Where's Ellie gone?  :o  :(

Maybe the vocals "Feels like i'm dreaming" are just a sample from somewhere she said/scream/sing it (no, not featured in any Wolf Alice song), and that's why she has writing credits listed on SACEM. Like Missy Elliot on Music:Response or so.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 17:45
Quote
Csar noob renamed board and forgot to make it visible
How long did it take you to realise @Csar that the rest of us couldn't see the xdust12 section?
I thought you had deleted the whole thing when you decided to update the name. I was imagining you messaging Explud, saying: "Help! I've f**king wiped it!"

Pumisher and I had a private chat about Ellie Rowsell whilst the xdust12 section was invisible. I reckon Dreaming perhaps started as a collaboration with Ellie, but by the end there was so little left of her on the track that they didn't put her as a "featuring". Either that, or what Pumisher says above.   


Quote from: mesamm99 on Jul 19, 2023, 14:56
Transition into No Reason... and a little fun extra 30ish seconds at the end of No Reason... assuming it transitions into the next track. I would imagine it's on Spotify as well.... but have not confirmed yet.
I can't find album versions of these tracks on Spotify. Happy to be told I'm wrong though.

The front sleeve artwork reminds me of something i.e a painter whose work I've seen in a gallery somewhere (Pompidou Centre?). Like a crazy painting of a field.  Don't know who though. It's twisting my melon man.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 19, 2023, 17:49
Super excited for the new Beck collaboration!

And I'm the one who predicted the cassettes, although less of a prediction and more of a music industry trend as of late. The boombox teaser for 'Live Again', triggered some kind of response... ;)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 19, 2023, 17:52
Quote from: Bosco on May 09, 2023, 01:21
Referring back to KEXP interview that Csar translated to text (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php?msg=32045) about "one reoccurring hero" in terms of future collaboration on new album...

Anyone have an inkling?

I want to say, Beck. I've only recently followed Beck on instagram but they (Chems HQ/ Ed/Beck) seem to "like" each others post a bit often, no? Maybe I'm looking into that too much and projecting my likings, but I think the crossover appeal is pretty strong between the two and a second collaboration would be pretty logical.

Any thoughts on someone else?


 ::cheers
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Jul 19, 2023, 17:54
Funny Tom and Ed cameo.

Video is nice but also a bit of a mixed bag like the track itself for me.


Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 17:45
Quote
Csar noob renamed board and forgot to make it visible
How long did it take you to realise @Csar that the rest of us couldn't see the xdust12 section? I thought you had deleted the whole thing when you decided to update the name. I was imagining you messaging Explud, saying: "Help! I've f**king wiped it!"
Until Pumisher grumbled about it being missing because for me it was there and had No Reason to suspect anything weird was going on.

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 19, 2023, 17:45
Pumisher and I had a private chat about Ellie Rowsell whilst the xdust12 section was invisible. I reckon Dreaming perhaps started as a collaboration with Ellie, but by the end there was so little left of her on the track that they didn't put her as a "featuring". Either that, or what Pumisher says above.
Let's see what the booklet will list but I can't imagine Tom and Ed doing such a thing. Feels Like Dreaming doesn't have any samples beyond its title lyrics as far as we could hear in live performances. Or maybe I missed something.
Another explanation could be that Ellie went into the woods like Aurora but never returned.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: rynostar on Jul 19, 2023, 18:14
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 19, 2023, 17:49
And I'm the one who predicted the cassettes, although less of a prediction and more of a music industry trend as of late. The boombox teaser for 'Live Again', triggered some kind of response...
It's weird to think that the '90s albums have wide release on cassette (still hunting down copies), they went away for the '00s-'10s, and now they live again. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 19, 2023, 18:54
Quote from: Csar on Jul 19, 2023, 17:54
Let's see what the booklet will list but I can't imagine Tom and Ed doing such a thing. Feels Like Dreaming doesn't have any samples beyond its title lyrics as far as we could hear in live performances. Or maybe I missed something.
Another explanation could be that Ellie went into the woods like Aurora but never returned.

I'd suspect that there never was any creative collaboration, but the Sacem database has to list her because of some copyright/legal reason.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Jul 19, 2023, 21:03
Waiting for Japanese CD to see if there are bonus track(s) included. Hopefully something we haven't heard.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Jul 20, 2023, 00:29
Quote from: Joslyn on Jul 19, 2023, 16:35
I am surprised by the prices of the album. £ 60/€ 70 the 3LP is a lot, especialy after spending £ 130 on the book. It seems to be a nice album though as much of the album description goes into detailing package.

I agree, £60 is taking the piss, and as with No Geography, doesn't even include any bonus tracks. How much was the 3LP of No Geography on release, it was around £45 from memory wasn't it? (EDIT: Just had a look at Wayback Machine and confirmed 3LP was £44 and 2LP was £27 in November 2018)

Might have to skip the 3LP on release this time and try find it on sale down the track.

Even £40 for the general 2LP is a bit much - will try find it for less on Amazon or Rarewaves or something.

The video for Live Again is great though! And the colourful cover is nice. Wonder if it's wholly original or 'inspired' from existing artwork again?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 20, 2023, 02:29
wait what is the point of the 3 LP version given all tracks fit on a 2 LP version? both are 180G.

I suspect this is contributing to the price (as well as other factors such as inflation, of course):

Quote
BLACK HOT FOIL ALONG BLACK LINES, FRONT AND BACK OF SLEEVE. GLOSS LAMINATION. INSIDE PRINTED 2 X PRINTED INNER SLEEVES (GLOSS DISPERSION)

aren't you excited about having final artwork in black hot foil??
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Jul 20, 2023, 02:59
Holy shit you guys!! I'm so excited! ;D It's so fun watching this all come together (the predictions here!!) There is so much to love about this album already, The Darkness That You Fear being on the new album... I'm so surprised! I was not expecting that at all! And another track with Beck!! Oh oh and I love the happy feeling of the artwork, and how vivid and trippy it is.Gah!! Can't wait to hear where this album takes us! Can't wait to feel it.

(Oh and I have had Live Again stuck in my head all day. Again!)

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 20, 2023, 04:25
Quote from: shakermaker on Jul 20, 2023, 02:29
wait what is the point of the 3 LP version given all tracks fit on a 2 LP version? both are 180G.

I suspect this is contributing to the price (as well as other factors such as inflation, of course):

aren't you excited about having final artwork in black hot foil??

I also don't see anything about a digital download in description of any of vinyl versions, so buyer beware
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Jul 20, 2023, 05:21
Quote from: shakermaker on Jul 20, 2023, 02:29
wait what is the point of the 3 LP version given all tracks fit on a 2 LP version? both are 180G.
Good question! Don't know! They did the same for No Geography but at least made the 3LP the limited white vinyl edition. But now they've got a limited white 2LP - will the collection completists out there now triple dip on this album to complete the set?!

With the 3LP there were different versions of songs since some couldn't mix into each other due to different record allocation.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: rynostar on Jul 20, 2023, 06:41
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Jul 19, 2023, 16:59
Since I'm editing, is this a first for the Chems to have the first track called 'Intro'?
Ha! We had the same thought within minutes of each other @inchemwetrust
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 20, 2023, 07:17
Quote from: Ford on Jul 20, 2023, 00:29
Even £40 for the general 2LP is a bit much - will try find it for less on Amazon or Rarewaves or something.
Someone in the BROTHERHOOD group has indeed found it on Amazon (via this link (https://rewarddeals.co.uk/deal/24441/chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling-double-vinyl-2lp?key=16&fbclid=IwAR3AkXuxP8q8Y8qu9l_i6t_0brhmDEfkoaBJbCf7r8C-QN7pf3SrNUIklC4)) for £28.57.
Obviously that's UK so I don't know how it will work for others...

EDIT: I think the Amazon price has jumped to £37.48 since I posted 3 hours ago!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 20, 2023, 17:07
a UPC or CN # is usually helpful for scrounging the internet for best deals. Now, that's not saying the best deals are exactly websites/stores I want to order from...




Unless they provide a bundle for USD, I think the only thing I will be ordering from official shop is the Cassette (assuming that's not widely available.)

I'm all about maximizing an audio experience, but I don't think I've experienced a NEW release on cassette tape since, 'Totally Krossed Out' by Kriss Kross. So time to turn back the clock and have some fun.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: actionjackson780 on Jul 20, 2023, 19:30
Now that it's been officially announced, record stores should be seeing it pop up in their distributors' catalogs. I am going to give it another couple days then see what versions are going to be available through my local shop before pulling the trigger on anything in GBP from the official store.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: satur8 on Jul 20, 2023, 20:23
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jul 19, 2023, 14:00
Just listened to both "Live Again" and "No Reason" from the album version on Apple Music... check it out... both have some surprises.

Thanks @mesamm99!  I absolutely would not have checked the album before release without your comment. Yes, awesome surprises indeed! I am even more excited for this release.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Jul 20, 2023, 21:03
Quote from: Ford on Jul 20, 2023, 05:21
Good question! Don't know! They did the same for No Geography but at least made the 3LP the limited white vinyl edition. But now they've got a limited white 2LP - will the collection completists out there now triple dip on this album to complete the set?!

With the 3LP there were different versions of songs since some couldn't mix into each other due to different record allocation.
That's what I'm wondering as well. No Geography had Eve of Destruction unmixed and Free yourself, the latter also available on the 12" single. 
For now No Reason seems the only unmixed track which is strange because it's not even 4.5 minutes long and is also available on a 12" single. 
Ah, how times changed the music industry where a 3LP had a porpuse and we got an unmixed Got Glint? and Burst Generator. Now is has become a collectors thing.

Anyway, I have to stop being cynical as I am very exicited. No Geography is/was a really good return to form and Live Again is ace.
Also I am happy to see them live before the album drops on August 18th.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Jul 20, 2023, 23:07
Here's the track listing (https://platenzaak.nl/collections/platenzaak-exclusives/products/for-that-beautiful-feeling-store-exclusive-deluxe-3lp) for the 3LP - the third LP is the same as the second LP on the 2LP.

The Chemical Brothers LP1 / 3LP
#
Title
1Intro
2Live Again
#
Title
1No Reason
The Chemical Brothers LP2 / 3LP
#
Title
1Goodbye
2Fountains
#
Title
1Magic Wand
2The Weight
The Chemical Brothers LP3 / 3LP
#
Title
1Skipping Like A Stone
2The Darkness That You Fear
#
Title
1Feels Like I Am Dreaming
2For That Beautiful Feeling
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 20, 2023, 23:39
Quote from: Joslyn on Jul 20, 2023, 21:03
Ah, how times changed the music industry where a 3LP had a porpuse and we got an unmixed Got Glint? and Burst Generator. Now is has become a collectors gougers thing.
fixed 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 21, 2023, 16:14
Anybody else thinks that September 8 feels very close and very far away at the same time?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 22, 2023, 09:09
How many singles do you think we'll get before the release? One or two?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2023, 13:56
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 22, 2023, 09:09
How many singles do you think we'll get before the release? One or two?
First of all i'm waiting for one or two b-sides to Live Again, then maybe 3 remixes. And boom, it's September. After that we'll get Skipping Like A Stone and Fountains as singles, both with b-sides and remixes. Meanwhile the japanese get 3 bonus tracks for That Beautiful Feeling => Live Again (instrumental), Feels Like I'm Dreaming (feat. Ellie Rowsell) and Intro (EBW Version).
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 22, 2023, 17:37
Still waiting for the preorders to pop up in polish stores.
Meanwhile I heard those transitions between Live Again, No Reason and Goodbye and here are my thoughts:
Spoiler
No Reason into Goodbye is really, really nice, but Live Again into No Reason could work better if they'll do a little fade in of that drum roll instead of it suddenly appearing from nowhere.
Meanwhile the bonus transition beats from the No Reason to Goodbye are really nice, reminds me of all of those transition beats from the live show!




Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Jul 22, 2023, 19:58
Quote from: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2023, 13:56
First of all i'm waiting for one or two b-sides to Live Again, then maybe 3 remixes. And boom, it's September. After that we'll get Skipping Like A Stone and Fountains as singles, both with b-sides and remixes. Meanwhile the japanese get 3 bonus tracks for That Beautiful Feeling => Live Again (instrumental), Feels Like I'm Dreaming (feat. Ellie Rowsell) and Intro (EBW Version).
Quote from: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2023, 13:56
First of all i'm waiting for one or two b-sides to Live Again, then maybe 3 remixes. And boom, it's September. After that we'll get Skipping Like A Stone and Fountains as singles, both with b-sides and remixes. Meanwhile the japanese get 3 bonus tracks for That Beautiful Feeling => Live Again (instrumental), Feels Like I'm Dreaming (feat. Ellie Rowsell) and Intro (EBW Version).
It looks like perhaps they'll be skipping a physical release for Live Again? We haven't seen any evidence of it so far (whereas we knew No Reason was coming months in advance) and it feels if there was going to be, they would have announced it by now. I don't have an issue with that, except that it means one less B-side. The more B-sides, the better!

Perhaps "Goodbye" (which is absolutely BBSG) could be the next single? We were all expecting it to be the closer or at least close to the end of the album, but it's actually the fourth (third, not counting Intro) track. I wouldn't see them releasing an albums closer as a single, but now that it's a relatively early track, I wouldn't be surprised.

On the topic of sequencing, what a surprise this is. Goodbye being so early seems a strange choice, but perhaps it will make more sense when we actually get the album on our hands. It coming after no reason also feels strange, but at least they made a KILLER transition with some bonus beats that I have had on loop recently.

TDTYF being close to the end makes sense (which, as someone else pointed out, marks the longest time between a single release and album release, not counting Song To The Siren and Exit Planet Dust!), but perhaps the most shocking placement to me was Feels Like I'm Dreaming being second to last. I can't imagine it being too different from everything we've heard of it so far, and based on that, I wouldn't imagine it so close to the end. But again, we'll have to see how it plays out when we get the album!

I could also see Dreaming being a single before release. I'm still somewhat confident in my prediction/hope from 2021 that Dreaming is EBW 13 and will be released as such, but if so, they have to do it quick!

I'm very interested at the prospect of one of the tracks we haven't heard anything from yet being a single. I would imagine they would keep singles to songs they have tested live to see audience reactions, but I could very much see Skipping Like A Stone being one as it features an artist they had on a single in the past and seem to be advertising that fact pretty heavily. Part of me hopes we only get things we've heard before as singles, so there is more mystery and surprise as to what these unknown tracks hold when the album releases, but part of me hopes we get something unheard of before ASAP as we've heard Dreaming quite a bit (not to say the studio release wouldn't be a huge difference from shoddy recordings) and Goodbye doesn't seem to have the Jesse Jackson vocal from the DJ sets, which diminishes my excitement for it a considerable amount.

As for my favorite of the tracks we have yet to see a release for, Rock Witchu, I REALLY hope it's a B-side for an upcoming single or even a Japan exclusive. If they shelve this one as they have with an unfortunate amount of previous tracks, I might just sue. I just really hope we get at least one other non-album track, as the obscure and insane stuff the Chems come up with but keep off the album is often my favorite.

As for the cover, I'm still mixed on it. On one hand, it feels completely different from any other Chems album cover, but on the other hand, their covers have never had a consistent theme or style to them, which I love. As other members pointed out, it feels rather happy, which I love and think is great, but also, my favorite Chems songs are the downbeat, dirty ones (hence why Dig Your Own Hole is my favorite album. This cover feels almost like the opposite of that one; DYOH is black and white, simple, and harsh. FTBF is colorful, neat, curvy, and fun), and this cover doesn't seem to be indicating there will be many of those.

Nor does the title, which I am also mixed on for the same reasons (this also similarly contrasts DYOH in an interesting way; something dark and pessimistic, almost threatening, vs something uplifting, hopeful). It also doesn't feel like a very Chems title, but for more reason just than the optimism: the sentence fragment itself.

Many previous Chems albums have had titles that are, in and of themselves, full sentences (Exit Planet Dust, Dig Your Own Hole, Surrender, Come With Us, Push The Button, We Are The Night) and all but two of those are commands. Born In The Echoes and No Geography are both qualities, describing something. Further is a rare single word title. FTBF, though, is a weird sentence fragment we haven't seen before from the Chems; it's the fourth four-word-title from them, but the first one to start with a preposition, which is an interesting and uncommon choice. It could have been "That Beautiful Feeling," but they added the For in front. Not sure which of those two I would prefer, as the first word being a preposition makes it sound a little awkward, but "That Beautiful Feeling" doesn't feel complete either. Maybe "Feel That Beautiful Feeling" would have been better, as it matches the common theme of the titles being commands. That's getting really nitpicky, though; despite my complaints, I absolutely love the cover and title. When I look at them, it still takes me a second to process, "woah, that is the new album!" but that could be because this is the first album release during the time I have been a fan. I can't wait to see it in my music listening app.

Also, something I noticed reading the song titles was this seemingly fantasy-like vibe I got from them, especially the tracks in the middle we haven't heard from. "Fountains," "Magic Wand," and "Skipping Like A Stone" especially. I wonder if and how the music will reflect that feeling, and how those titles came about.

Well, that's probably enough rambling and speculating for one forum post :D I've been on vacation and quite busy so I haven't gotten a chance to check the forum and share any thoughts here until now, so I couldn't help but let out all of my thoughts and feelings in this post. I hope it wasn't a pain to read!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 22, 2023, 21:30
physical singles and b-sides seem to be becoming more rare on the whole. I've noticed on streaming platforms a lot of singles will be backed by the previous single, and after a few singles it sort of becomes a mini EP. I dont like it but I guess they are trying to rack up listens.

all that said I can see the chems sticking to more old school methods 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Jul 22, 2023, 22:10
Quote from: shakermaker on Jul 22, 2023, 21:30
physical singles and b-sides seem to be becoming more rare on the whole.
I'm quite glad the Chems seem to have returned to B-sides with All Of A Sudden and Work Energy Principle. They had stopped for a while, not doing it since We Are The Night, but it seems they are bringing it back with FTBF and I couldn't be happier.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2023, 22:49
Quote from: ; on Jul 22, 2023, 22:10
They had stopped for a while, not doing it since We Are The Night, but it seems they are bringing it back with FTBF and I couldn't be happier.

This


Remember during the Surrender-era there where a whooping 6 b-sides making a total of 23min and 34sec of bonus beats? Or if you include Enjoyed it's 7 b-sides or 31:42min of bonus flavour? THOSE where the days my friends.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 23, 2023, 01:16
Quote from: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2023, 22:49
Remember during the Surrender-era there where a whooping 6 b-sides making a total of 23min and 34sec of bonus beats? Or if you include Enjoyed it's 7 b-sides or 31:42min of bonus flavour? THOSE where the days my friends.


Surrender era, had a bunch of support, marketing, and certain financial thresholds to hit. There was a certain "obligation" beyond artistic expression that forced a plentiful amount of b-sides.

Check this Billboard article from June 1999: 

(Page 10 and Page 15)
https://books.google.com/books?id=uw0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=errol+kolosine+surrender+campaign+chemical+brothers&source=bl&ots=kZDi3tcHLx&sig=ACfU3U0-ie2_l35G7Fg014k7IXuy4vS4yw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsydXKzKOAAxW_AzQIHYM2B0w4ChDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=errol%20kolosine%20surrender%20campaign%20chemical%20brothers&f=false


so beyond Tom and Ed, you can thank Errol for all the Surrender b-sides ::cheers
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 23, 2023, 15:19
Quote from: ; on Jul 22, 2023, 19:58
It also doesn't feel like a very Chems title, but for more reason just than the optimism: the sentence fragment itself.

I think it's the nowadays Chems as hell, especially when you'll take a look at titles as: We've got to try, Free Yourself, The Universe Sent Me, Catch Me I'm Falling, or The Darkness That You Fear. 
It's pretty much like one family
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hstn on Jul 23, 2023, 19:27
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 22, 2023, 09:09
How many singles do you think we'll get before the release? One or two?
I need Dreaming RIGHT NOWWWWWWW

Tho legit looked at SACEM, none of the other album songs are listed but Dreaming's been there for a while, would be surprised if it wasn't the next song to be released
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 23, 2023, 20:31
Patience. But yea I also need Dreaming noooooooowwwww!

I'm not sure if Sacem is a good indicator of release time, No Reason and Dreaming have been listed there for months while Live Again only appeared on release day.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Jul 23, 2023, 21:06
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 23, 2023, 20:31
Patience. But yea I also need Dreaming noooooooowwwww!

I'm not sure if Sacem is a good indicator of release time, No Reason and Dreaming have been listed there for months while Live Again only appeared on release day.
I'm pretty sure No Reason and Dreaming have been listed because they were actually broadcasted on official channels like Coachella as well as other festival channels. This is to make sure Chems get their cut of the broadcast. Since Live Again was never actually broadcasted live in any official capacity, it only showed up when it was released as a single. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 23, 2023, 21:08
Hm, that might be the case, but as far as I remember All Of A Sudden also appeared pretty early on and that was also never broadcasted.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 24, 2023, 01:19
Quote from: neorev on Jul 23, 2023, 21:06
I'm pretty sure No Reason and Dreaming have been listed because they were actually broadcasted on official channels like Coachella as well as other festival channels. This is to make sure Chems get their cut of the broadcast. Since Live Again was never actually broadcasted live in any official capacity, it only showed up when it was released as a single.

That's a forward thinking point, and probably close, if not the right answer.


I was starting an outside theory that maybe there is an alternative version of "Dreaming "(w/Ellie, or at least emphasized an appearance on the track) and Chems were appointed to put something together as part of a soundtrack for a future movie/tv show. It was about this time last year when I found out that "Dreaming" was on the registry... so possibly a delay in Movie/TV show release? Eh, maybe not.

... I think I like your theory.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 24, 2023, 05:19

Quote from: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2023, 22:49
Remember during the Surrender-era there where a whooping 6 b-sides making a total of 23min and 34sec of bonus beats? Or if you include Enjoyed it's 7 b-sides or 31:42min of bonus flavour? THOSE where the days my friends.

the world is so different now. during the Surrender era it was normal to buy physical singles. nowadays, outside of a niche / collectors market, when people like a song they use it in a TikTok video.

I suspect that the bonus tracks we see on modern deluxe editions are the songs that would have become b-sides back in the day.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Jul 24, 2023, 07:15
Quote from: ; on Jul 22, 2023, 19:58
As for the cover, I'm still mixed on it.
 [...]
Nor does the title, which I am also mixed on

I can relate but I didn't want to say anything. Both, title and cover/artwork, feel a bit awkward, indeed. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 24, 2023, 15:47
Quote from: hstn on Jul 23, 2023, 19:27
I need Dreaming RIGHT NOWWWWWWW

Tho legit looked at SACEM, none of the other album songs are listed but Dreaming's been there for a while, would be surprised if it wasn't the next song to be released

I would be surprised if it won't be the next one considering the all the fan community hype around it
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Jul 24, 2023, 17:53
Has anyone from the UK ordered the album from the Chemical Brothers website/Universal music store? If so, what are the shipping costs? 

Has anyone from outside the UK but in the Eurozone tried to order a music/merch bundle and succeeded? 

Something really fishy is happening on my end...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Jul 24, 2023, 17:58
Quote from: Csar on Jul 24, 2023, 07:15
I can relate but I didn't want to say anything. Both, title and cover/artwork, feel a bit awkward, indeed. 
I feel the same. The album title is a bit meh. I am just not feeling the cover art at all.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 24, 2023, 18:00
Quote from: Csar on Jul 24, 2023, 07:15
I can relate but I didn't want to say anything. Both, title and cover/artwork, feel a bit awkward, indeed. 
We've gone from Not Final Artwork (i.e. nothing) to "Oh that's loud!".

Have they decided to permanently move away from Kate Gibb for new stuff, I wonder?
None of the artwork from TDTYF onwards has been Kate Gibb stuff. In fact the artwork for No Geography and BITE was created or curated by Tom Hingston studios wasn't it? I guess the OOC/Avalanches re-work was the last time she was used.

Obviously KG did/does have her own style which made it easy to recognise a lot of Chems releases. But this new one? If you didn't know it was Chems, you wouldn't know. And I don't think we know who has done the 'arty' artwork do we?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 24, 2023, 18:18
Kate Gibb did artwork for their upcoming book, so they certainly haven't moved away from collaborating with her.

I think the album title is perfectly fine. I feel pretty indifferent about the artwork. It's not bad, but I also wouldn't hang it up as a poster on my wall. It's wat they choose to go with and it means that new music is coming, and that alone makes me happy anytime I see it.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 24, 2023, 18:36
Quote from: Joslyn on Jul 24, 2023, 17:53
Has anyone from outside the UK but in the Eurozone tried to order a music/merch bundle and succeeded?

Me ordered the white vinyl, the cd and the NR single (no merch unfortunately) - worked pretty flawlessly



Newest post from the Brothers on Instagram is saying that FTBF will be released Sep 9th 🤔

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvFTl1ugdJv/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


https://abload.de/img/screenshot_20230724-23oe42.png (https://abload.de/img/screenshot_20230724-23oe42.png)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 24, 2023, 18:47
Maybe that's a typo because September is the 9th month? Release day has usually been Friday.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whitelabel84 on Jul 25, 2023, 08:40
For That Beautiful Feeling Japanese version (https://www.universal-music.co.jp/the-chemical-brothers/news/2023-07-25/)
details released:
Two bonus tracks include 'All Of A Sudden' and brand new b-side 'I Want To Know'
Also included; liner notes, obi, band bio and lyric sheet .. all the goodies you'd expect from the Japanese release 💪💪

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 25, 2023, 08:50
I would really, really like to know why it's only Japan that always gets these special editions.
Why not make a special edition at a higher price, but available just like the normal album? Devoted fans would sure buy it.

Luckily, I have no doubt that the bonus track will available ~somewhere~, like it always is.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Jul 25, 2023, 09:03
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 25, 2023, 08:50
I would really, really like to know why it's only Japan that always gets these special editions.
Why not make a special edition at a higher price, but available just like the normal album? Devoted fans would sure buy it.
Luckily, I have no doubt that the bonus track will available ~somewhere~, like it always is.
https://loudwire.com/why-japanese-bonus-tracks-exist-explained/
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 25, 2023, 10:35
Quote from: ThePumisher on May 15, 2023, 09:39
Tracklist of Not Final Artwork anyone?

  • Superflash (studio version) - 0%

Oh, morning Pumisher. Just checked re Superflash, and you yourself predicted it wouldn't be on the album. So we were both right!  ::cheers

Meanwhile:

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 19:38
3) All Of A Sudden.  I predict: bonus track.

Bingo!   8)

At this point, Sure Shot/Rock Witchu is looking more likely to remain an unreleased DJ weapon, similar to Pumisher's Erection Song. I'm also thinking back to the Bolis Pupil track, "Teknow" which they did a radical re-work of back in 2017 (played at DJ dates: Nuits Sonores in France and Il Muretto, Jesolo, Italy). There was a lot of addtional Chemical production on that "Teknow" re-work, but it was nonetheless an unofficial re-edit and it remains unreleased.

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on May 15, 2023, 19:38
C and D) The two clips I flagged up... in The Printworks thread in December '22 and May '23, posts #26 and #36 here. (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3164.msg32325.html#msg32325)
We still haven't ID'd these two tracks. I have no idea if either could be Chemical. I'm just trying to put my thinking cap on, in terms of whether we may have heard 'I Want To Know' already without realising it? The timbre of the second clip is very similar to All Of A Sudden...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Jul 25, 2023, 12:50
Quote from: gfa2001 on Jul 25, 2023, 09:03
https://loudwire.com/why-japanese-bonus-tracks-exist-explained/

Thanks! So it's not just the Checks but more or less some publishing standard/praxis.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 25, 2023, 17:12
Quote from: whitelabel84 on Jul 25, 2023, 08:40
For That Beautiful Feeling Japanese version (https://www.universal-music.co.jp/the-chemical-brothers/news/2023-07-25/)
details released:
Two bonus tracks include 'All Of A Sudden' and brand new b-side 'I Want To Know'
Also included; liner notes, obi, band bio and lyric sheet .. all the goodies you'd expect from the Japanese release 💪💪



Great news.

I wish I could remember how I obtained the Japanese version of the last two albums. I want to say I bought them from eBay from a trusted international seller, but I really can't recall. Covid era has made my memories extra fuzzy.

I guess what I'm saying is, if there a forum-backed recommendation of where to order the Japanese version, I'm all ears.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 25, 2023, 17:34
GUYS, WE HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE BONUS TRACK FOR JAPAN: 

12. I Want To Know 
13. All Of A Sudden 

(Pls may the Rock Witchu be released under one of those unheard titles)

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 25, 2023, 17:36
Quote from: whitelabel84 on Jul 25, 2023, 08:40
For That Beautiful Feeling Japanese version (https://www.universal-music.co.jp/the-chemical-brothers/news/2023-07-25/)
details released:
Two bonus tracks include 'All Of A Sudden' and brand new b-side 'I Want To Know'
Also included; liner notes, obi, band bio and lyric sheet .. all the goodies you'd expect from the Japanese release 💪💪


Ok, so you've outran me with that with different source, niceee!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 25, 2023, 18:18
Does anyone recall the formats and prices available back when they had pre-orders for "Not Final Artwork"?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: rynostar on Jul 25, 2023, 18:30
Quote from: whitelabel84 on Jul 25, 2023, 08:40
Also included; liner notes, obi, band bio and lyric sheet .. all the goodies you'd expect from the Japanese release 💪💪
This means I'll attempt to translate again with any new info... Bring it on.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: satur8 on Jul 25, 2023, 18:50
Quote from: gfa2001 on Jul 25, 2023, 09:03
https://loudwire.com/why-japanese-bonus-tracks-exist-explained/
I am satisfied with the answer, but no less frustrated. Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 25, 2023, 19:47
for anyone who isn't fond of the final title or artwork, "not final artwork" can stay alive in our hearts and message boards.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whitelabel84 on Jul 25, 2023, 20:44
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 25, 2023, 18:18
Does anyone recall the formats and prices available back when they had pre-orders for "Not Final Artwork"?
I think it was three formats: CD, standard black 2LP & the 3LP - prices were as they are now
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 25, 2023, 22:50
Quote from: whitelabel84 on Jul 25, 2023, 20:44
I think it was three formats: CD, standard black 2LP & the 3LP - prices were as they are now

People that preordered the 3LP are really getting the raw end here...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 26, 2023, 03:21
This is where I typically order my Japan only releases. Used them for No Geography. Looks like this version of the album is coming in a "cardboard sleeve". If that's the case, I'll probs get this and the regular US release. https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICW-10032
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 26, 2023, 05:54
Nicholas Krushenick, is the name to google
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 26, 2023, 10:48
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 26, 2023, 05:54
Nicholas Krushenick, is the name to google
Ohhh, well done you! Did you do a google reverse image search?

If you google Electric Soup, it brings up images that are almost identical to the Live Again artwork.
The only image that I can find that's exactly the same (bar some writing) is a poster for a 2015 event here. (http://structureandimagery.blogspot.com/2015/02/nicholas-krushenick-tang-teaching.html)

Am struggling to see the exact images from the Album. I wonder if Hingston studios may have adjusted the original images or if I just haven't quite found the right ones?

So an artwork theme for Live Again and the new album.
Before No Reason we had TDTYF which also has artwork by a 20th century artist, Sir Terry Frost. So definitely a modern art theme since 2021. It was kinda interrupted by the artwork of the marching band guy for No Reason though.

Up next? How about a 12" sleeve with an image of the Rock Drill sculpture? And inside, how about a 12" with The Rock Drill track by The Chemcial Brothers?

Well, just a thought...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Jul 26, 2023, 11:17
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 25, 2023, 22:50
People that preordered the 3LP are really getting the raw end here...
Why do you say that?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 26, 2023, 17:32
Quote from: Ford on Jul 26, 2023, 11:17
Why do you say that?
As many as you have already pointed out, the 3LP barely differentiates from the the 2LP. If this was indicated back in March, nobody outside of completionist would pay the premium for the 3LP.

I don't imagine they sold that many March pre-order 3LP, so I won't make too big deal of it. But I'm sure there is a few miffed people that feel taken advantaged out there.

Ultimately, the pre, pre-order bullshit is a horrible business trend. I know they used it in tandem to fluff up their upcoming UK tour in the fall, but "not final artwork" is not final artwork.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Champiness on Jul 26, 2023, 18:15
Was checking out my Apple Music pre-add of the record on iTunes and noticed that all of the as-yet-unplayabe songs have full "Composer" fields! Have a commitment that means I can't dig into every non-Chems person credited yet but here's a sample from "The Weight":
(I've also figured out that "The Weight" samples a song written by reggae musicians Barry Brown and Bunny Lee, if anyone wants to go rifling through their shared credits.)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 26, 2023, 18:41
^ Vocal sample from 5:47 onwards, probably. So I guess don't listen if that's a spoiler for you.
There are some high pitched siren-ish noises that might work in a Chems track too circa 5:30.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Jul 26, 2023, 20:58
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 26, 2023, 18:41
^ Vocal sample from 5:47 onwards, probably. So I guess don't listen if that's a spoiler for you. There are some high pitched siren-ish noises that might work in a Chems track too circa 5:30.
I could see them using the drums at the start as well. Either way, amazing find! Well done!

Surprised the Live Again artwork wasn't actually created for the single - it existed 8 years prior. I would think they would want something new to be made, but if it works, it works!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 26, 2023, 21:42
Quote from: ; on Jul 26, 2023, 20:58
Surprised the Live Again artwork wasn't actually created for the single - it existed 8 years prior. I would think they would want something new to be made, but if it works, it works!

The artwork existed before 1999, that is when the artist passed away. My guess is most of the FTBF artwork is most likely somewhere inside that art book Wolkenkrabber mentioned, "Electric Soup".

So if anyone wants a homework assignment, checkout your local library and see if they have said book. If so, browse through book and report back
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Jul 26, 2023, 23:17
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 26, 2023, 17:32
As many as you have already pointed out, the 3LP barely differentiates from the the 2LP. If this was indicated back in March, nobody outside of completionist would pay the premium for the 3LP.

I don't imagine they sold that many March pre-order 3LP, so I won't make too big deal of it. But I'm sure there is a few miffed people that feel taken advantaged out there.

Ultimately, the pre, pre-order bullshit is a horrible business trend. I know they used it in tandem to fluff up their upcoming UK tour in the fall, but "not final artwork" is not final artwork.
Fair enough. I think with pre-orders you can cancel before the item ships, so if you were proper miffed you could do that at least.

I got the recent marketing email telling me to discover the For That Beautiful Feeling special editions - but when I click the pre-order button for the 3LP I get geo-targeted and transferred to what I guess is the Australian distributor's store (https://thesoundofvinyl.com.au/collections/the-chemical-brothers).

Not only are the special editions not available, the $100 2LP (£52 at current exchange rates) adds a $16 delivery charge, so I'd pay $116 - or I could just order from the official Chems store for $87 delivered (£40 plus £6 delivery to Australia).

Madness. What's the point of a geo-location redirect in your marketing comms when your official store ships internationally - and is the cheaper option? Especially when your email is headed 'Discover the special editions' and then the link doesn't show me any special editions to purchase.

Also, look at the price difference on the Australian store between the CD and cassette - $20 CD versus $35 cassette! There's only a £1 difference on the official store, and the cassette is cheaper - £12 CD and £11 cassette. What the hell is going on?

The £73 3LP, CD and cassette bundle isn't bad value for the completionists, relatively speaking. I'm guessing the high prices this release for vinyl is indicative of the overall trend for vinyl releases at the moment. I notice the reissue of Red Hot Chili Peppers Stadium Arcadium is USD $90, when back in 2016 it was $40.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 27, 2023, 04:18
Quote from: Champiness on Jul 26, 2023, 18:15
Was checking out my Apple Music pre-add of the record on iTunes and noticed that all of the as-yet-unplayabe songs have full "Composer" fields!

I hope you don't mind me completing what you started, here is the other composers:

dont open if you do not want to spoil album details
[4] Goodbye Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons & Robert Argyrios Gantzos
[6] Magic Wand Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons & Jérôme Lenoir
[10] Feels Like I Am Dreaming Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons & Ellie Rowsell

The Darkness That You Fear, is still credited the same as SACEM. I know we already discussed but it still don't feel right that Caroline Ellis doesn't get a nod.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Champiness on Jul 27, 2023, 05:40
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 27, 2023, 04:18
I hope you don't mind me completing what you started, here is the other composers
Thanks, and it's led me to another one! Pretty big one! Don't know if a spoiler tag is strictly necessary but it makes things look a little tidier so more below!

Spoiler
Process was:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adiscogs.com+%22Robert+Gantzos%22
 (https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adiscogs.com+%5C"Robert+Gantzos%5C"&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)https://www.discogs.com/release/10970458-Teresa-Harris-The-Gene-Parker-Quintet-UFO
 (https://www.discogs.com/release/10970458-Teresa-Harris-The-Gene-Parker-Quintet-UFO)[read a comment that praises a promisingly-titled B-side which no one has logged on Discogs]
https://www.google.com/search?q=teresa+harris+goodbye (https://www.google.com/search?q=teresa+harris+goodbye)

and then:
https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/track/good-bye

Gotta say: that's a far more elaborate flip than I had thought while listening to the end result.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Jul 27, 2023, 09:42
Quote from: Champiness on Jul 27, 2023, 05:40
if a spoiler tag is strictly necessary but it makes things look a little tidier so more below!
Hey, you can always use the link button in the editor and give your links pretty and short names if you want!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 27, 2023, 09:45
Quote from: Champiness on Jul 27, 2023, 05:40
Spoiler
Process was:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adiscogs.com+%22Robert+Gantzos%22
 (https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adiscogs.com+%5C"Robert+Gantzos%5C"&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)https://www.discogs.com/release/10970458-Teresa-Harris-The-Gene-Parker-Quintet-UFO
 (https://www.discogs.com/release/10970458-Teresa-Harris-The-Gene-Parker-Quintet-UFO)[read a comment that praises a promisingly-titled B-side which no one has logged on Discogs]
https://www.google.com/search?q=teresa+harris+goodbye (https://www.google.com/search?q=teresa+harris+goodbye)

and then:
https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/track/good-bye

Gotta say: that's a far more elaborate flip than I had thought while listening to the end result.

Ah so in fact, one search of Discogs for Bob Gantzos delivered one result, and one look at the B-side delivered a direct hit. It's certainly a very different version of Goodbye. I prefer the Chems version myself. I'm guessing the Chems have used a non-famous session vocalist, oherwise he would probably be named.



Quote from: Bosco on Jul 27, 2023, 04:18
the other composers:

dont open if you do not want to spoil album details
[4] Goodbye Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons & Robert Argyrios Gantzos
[6] Magic Wand Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons & Jérôme Lenoir
[10] Feels Like I Am Dreaming Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons & Ellie Rowsell

So we were aware of the track 10 credits. We now have track 4 figured out. That leaves Track 6 here, Magic Wand.
Time for another "Bob" because Jérôme Lenoir has a stage name of Bobby Sanders (https://www.discogs.com/artist/390644-Bobby-Sanders). As you can see, he has six singles credited to his name on Discogs, and zero albums.

If nothing else, I think I've figured out the drum source for It Doesn't Matter. No really!!
Lyrically there's nothing obvious linking these singles to the title, "Magic Wand".
But look at the 1976 single by Bobby Sanders & Magic. And then listen to it (it's a quiet YT upload so turn it up).

Bobby Sanders & Magic - Strung out Parts 1&2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNQYEfdNNGc

Hear the drum break at 1:48 to 1:52? And again at the start of part 2 at 3:54.
At the time of writing, WhoSampled doesn't list anything for the drums on It Doesn't Matter. Have I just figured it out?

Most of Bobby Sanders other tracks are kinda old fashioned doo-wop and soul tracks, so I'm thinking Tom may have returned to this track for more inspiration.

One other thing about this track: the female "ooh" backing vox towards the end of both parts (3:37 to 3.50, and 5:41 to 5:56, then 6:28 to the end) sound very familiar. They have me thinking of I Just Want To Dance (https://tinyurl.com/2vjuc84d) by Sault (2:01 to 2:14). A track which featured in the Chems Odd Bodd Distress DJ mix. Yeah I may be getting tenuous here, but I can see how that backing vocal might be tempting to sample or recreate (by the Chems).


TL;DR? I ramble about reggae here but don't know what's been sampled:

Quote from: Champiness on Jul 26, 2023, 18:15
(I've also figured out that "The Weight" samples a song written by reggae musicians Barry Brown and Bunny Lee, if anyone wants to go rifling through their shared credits.)

Well Barry Brown has got 22 albums listed on Discogs (https://www.discogs.com/artist/119546-Barry-Brown?type=Releases&subtype=Albums&filter_anv=0). And Bunny Lee is listed as an arranger & producer on a LOT of his stuff. So good luck to anyone trying to figure this one out!

I note that Brown's musicians included rhythm section Sly & Robbie (11 Grammy nominations to their name, worked with everyone from Grace Jones to The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney to Britney Spears, the Chems played their track "Boops" at Save The Social in 2019), and also Augustus Pablo (famous in his own right; known for making the Melodica a lead instrument in reggae). Barry Brown was the real deal! Too bad he died at 42 with substance abuse issues when he hit his head in the studio.

Anyway "Conscious Dread" and "Don't Let No One Bribe You" are fantastic tracks, so if nothng else, thanks to Tom/Chems for making me have a dig and for indirectly making me 'discover' these tunes. Check 'em out!
No idea what track has been sampled though...
EDIT: my random bet would be  "It Go A Dread" which was sampled/re-worked by King Tubby as "Flag Dub". This is great!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Jul 27, 2023, 10:39
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 26, 2023, 17:32
As many as you have already pointed out, the 3LP barely differentiates from the the 2LP. If this was indicated back in March, nobody outside of completionist would pay the premium for the 3LP.
So yesterdays email from Chemical HQ gave the biggest difference, 3LP 45rpm vs 2LP 33rpm. Wider grooves can give better sound quality if I'm correct. Are there any vinyl purists here who will hear the difference?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 27, 2023, 14:56
Pulled the trigger and purchased the Japanese version of the album. Will most likely pick up the domestic version at my local record shop when it comes out. Usually love to support the Chems website directly, but the apparel isn't grabbing me. I'd purchase if the hoody or shirt was fully in the design, versus "pasted" on a black canvas.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jul 28, 2023, 12:34
Quote from: Champiness on Jul 26, 2023, 18:15
Was checking out my Apple Music pre-add of the record on iTunes and noticed that all of the as-yet-unplayabe songs have full "Composer" fields! Have a commitment that means I can't dig into every non-Chems person credited yet but here's a sample from "The Weight":
(I've also figured out that "The Weight" samples a song written by reggae musicians Barry Brown and Bunny Lee, if anyone wants to go rifling through their shared credits.)

Spoiler
Spoiler
Now as I listen to it and overall vibe I dunno if it won't be combined with out beloved "Rock Witchu"

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Jul 28, 2023, 21:41
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jul 27, 2023, 14:56
Pulled the trigger and purchased the Japanese version of the album. Will most likely pick up the domestic version at my local record shop when it comes out. Usually love to support the Chems website directly, but the apparel isn't grabbing me. I'd purchase if the hoody or shirt was fully in the design, versus "pasted" on a black canvas.
Where did you end up ordering the Japanese CD from? I was waiting for it to show up on Amazon Japan. So far I only see the regular version on there. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 28, 2023, 22:49
Quote from: neorev on Jul 28, 2023, 21:41
Where did you end up ordering the Japanese CD from? I was waiting for it to show up on Amazon Japan. So far I only see the regular version on there.
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICW-10032

This site has never let me down. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Jul 28, 2023, 23:52
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jul 28, 2023, 22:49
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICW-10032

This site has never let me down.
Yeah, that was my back up. Amazon usually works out a little cheaper with shipping, so I was waiting.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Jul 29, 2023, 12:04
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jul 28, 2023, 22:49
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICW-10032

This site has never let me down.
There is a lot of info about the packing of the cd "4-panel digisleeve – gloss lamination 4-page booklet" but none of that on the Japan sites, just a genetic cardboard sleeve mini lp in the description. That would be a bit dissapointing. Do you have any hope/idea this Japan release will be the same as disscribed in the Chemical Brothers store?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Jul 29, 2023, 15:19
Quote from: Joslyn on Jul 29, 2023, 12:04
There is a lot of info about the packing of the cd "4-panel digisleeve – gloss lamination 4-page booklet" but none of that on the Japan sites, just a genetic cardboard sleeve mini lp in the description. That would be a bit dissapointing. Do you have any hope/idea this Japan release will be the same as disscribed in the Chemical Brothers store?
Honestly buying this for the 2 tracks. Will still buy the US version of the album since I am expecting the Japanese version to be as described. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 29, 2023, 17:51
Quote from: Joslyn on Jul 29, 2023, 12:04
There is a lot of info about the packing of the cd "4-panel digisleeve – gloss lamination 4-page booklet" but none of that on the Japan sites, just a genetic cardboard sleeve mini lp in the description. That would be a bit dissapointing. Do you have any hope/idea this Japan release will be the same as disscribed in the Chemical Brothers store?

You could just wait and see how it's designed. I know it's easy to get wrapped up in pre-orders because formats are limited and have chance to sell-out (aka, FOMO) but Japanese CD will be plentiful for the most part.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 29, 2023, 18:32
I admire the dedication of people here.

as someone who has has been working on aggressively reducing my piracy footprint in the past few years, I draw the line at expensive imports for the sake of a bonus track or two.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 29, 2023, 19:27
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 29, 2023, 17:51
You could just wait and see how it's designed. I know it's easy to get wrapped up in pre-orders because formats are limited and have chance to sell-out (aka, FOMO) but Japanese CD will be plentiful for the most part.
Agree. These days we can legally listen to the album on release day (Spotify, YouTube etc) so I figure: wait til it's out in Japan, then compare prices (ebay v CD Japan v Tower Japan v HMV Japan).

I'm not sure why anyone wants to get suckered into paying huge money for bundles, especially vinyl bundles. I remember the '90s when record shops were practically giving away their vinyl albums because everyone had moved on to CD. I do have a record player (and records) but that's mostly for playing 12" singles. 
Records take up space, they're heavy, they have issues with pressing quality/static/wear & tear, and you can't even play them on portable devices...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Jul 30, 2023, 02:35
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 29, 2023, 19:27
Records take up space, they're heavy, they have issues with pressing quality/static/wear & tear, and you can't even play them on portable devices...

Okay, Zoomer!  ::)  :P

Nothing wrong with collecting tangible items, let alone pre-ordering an item in support of physical formats.  Sometimes having defects and imperfections as part of the experience is a healthy reminder that life isn't perfect.

I'm totally listening to this album on cassette tape for my first listen, and there is nothing YOU can do about it!    ::krazy
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 30, 2023, 09:43
Quote from: Bosco on Jul 30, 2023, 02:35
Nothing wrong with collecting tangible items, let alone pre-ordering an item in support of physical formats. 

I note you edited the bit where I talked about getting the CD...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Jul 30, 2023, 16:12
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whitelabel84 on Aug 01, 2023, 03:12
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Not sure if it's been posted yet, but here is the vinyl track listing / breakdown of the 3LP set 👌👌
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Aug 01, 2023, 22:39
Has anyone of you noticed this already? Apparently, if you pre-order the album as a UK resident, you might be able to partake in a prize draw.

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 05, 2023, 13:06
Quote from: Champiness on Jul 26, 2023, 18:15
Was checking out my Apple Music pre-add of the record on iTunes and noticed that all of the as-yet-unplayabe songs have full "Composer" fields! Have a commitment that means I can't dig into every non-Chems person credited yet but here's a sample from "The Weight":
(I've also figured out that "The Weight" samples a song written by reggae musicians Barry Brown and Bunny Lee, if anyone wants to go rifling through their shared credits.)

these credits are up on SACEM now

THE WEIGHT
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED, UNKNOWN PUBLISHER
Composer/Author : EL BROWN BARRINGTON MICHA, LEE EDWARD O SULLIVAN, OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, Michael B SERRETTE, MOORE WILBERT, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN, Juanita HOLLOWAY

Barrington Brown = Barry Brown
Edward Lee = Bunny Lee
Mssrs Serrette & Moore = South Bronx, with additional writing for them from Jaunita Holloway.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 07, 2023, 09:21
Listening to 6 Music right now, and Nemone did a quick preview of what to expect from her show starting in around 15min. And she said she got something completely brand new from the Brothers as part of the "Near Future" part of the show. Wonder if this is something previously unreleased or 'just' the Mara Jane Coles remix of Live Again.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Aug 07, 2023, 09:35
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 07, 2023, 09:21
Listening to 6 Music right now, and Nemone did a quick preview of what to expect from her show starting in around 15min. And she said she got something completely brand new from the Brothers as part of the "Near Future" part of the show. Wonder if this is something previously unreleased or 'just' the Mara Jane Coles remix of Live Again.
Any update? I assume your listening - i think i'm too late now
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 07, 2023, 09:58
Jump back to 1hr,41m,28s here (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001p85l), where Nemone tells Lauren she has "a wondeful Maya Jane Coles remix of the Chems for the Near Future to play you later on". So I think that answers that.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 07, 2023, 13:12
She did a small introduction to the song on what was her idea behind the way she made that remix (she wanted to keep the true essence of the song, she went for a stripped back dubby moody vibe, still maintaining that uplifting energy and build throughout the [original] track).

Here it is starting around 01:08:35 => https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001p85n
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: cowboy on Aug 07, 2023, 20:10
Quote from: Csar on Aug 01, 2023, 22:39
Has anyone of you noticed this already? Apparently, if you pre-order the album as a UK resident, you might be able to partake in a prize draw.

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The prize draw email actually reminded me that I want to pre-order the white vinyl version with the hoodie bundle. I'm guessing the print of the hoodie is going to be roughly the same size as the prints the No Geo shirts had. Not sure why I even went for the hoodie bundle - I have waaay too many hoodies for my own liking and I'm not a big fan of the album cover in the first place, but something really drew me in. Could it be the black hoodie colour against the album cover? Could it be a completely different story when I actually see it in person and my subconscious knew that when ordering? Could it be that I'm going insane?!  
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 08, 2023, 05:47
One month to go!
Also, thanks to the team for that Countdown on the forum Startpage :)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 08, 2023, 17:39
https://store.thechemicalbrothers.com/products/for-that-beautiful-feeling-collectors-edition-usb?vvsa_consumer_id=37285290&vvsa_tracking=_vvsa_Y5gUWL3C532164

USB Stick edition with bonus tracks in form of:
  • No Reason (Extended Mix)
  • Live Again (feat. Halo Maud) [Extended Mix]
  • Skipping Like A Stone (feat. Beck) [Extended Mix]
  • All Of A Sudden

    I guess "Skipping Like A Stone" might be one of the singles.

    Potential tracks spoilers:
    Spoiler
    Intro includes the vocals by Halo Maud, might be the elements of Live Again, might be something else, dunno.

    Our sample hunt for Goodbye was all correct!

    Fountains has the VOCALS SUNG BY TOM, with Halo Maud being the backing vox.

    Skipping Like A Stone has backing vox by Tom & Halo Maud

    The Weight appears to have the longest credit section, which makes me smile.

     It seems like "Rock Witchu" isn't there, maybe it's our "I want to know"? 






    All Of A Sudden is just Tom & Ed in credits, so I guess "You know, all of a Sudden it's like" might be Tom's modified voice


Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Aug 08, 2023, 18:17
Lol,  collectors edition USB stick version?

Surely this is a joke.

I think I'll hold out for the Microchip Implant edition
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: rynostar on Aug 08, 2023, 19:11
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 08, 2023, 18:17
I think I'll hold out for the Microchip Implant edition
Is that the direct input version or the osmosis download version? 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: sneakerbeater on Aug 08, 2023, 19:19
They got me again! Very expensive year we're  having in the brotherhood
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 08, 2023, 20:27
Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 08, 2023, 17:39
https://store.thechemicalbrothers.com/products/for-that-beautiful-feeling-collectors-edition-usb?vvsa_consumer_id=37285290&vvsa_tracking=_vvsa_Y5gUWL3C532164
Where is this link from? I can't see it in the UK store.

I recall in the latter days of CD singles, I would sometimes see Top 40 singles on sale in HMV in the form of tiny USB sticks, though I never bought one. Anyone else ever bought one? And if so:  is it possible to easily take the music off the USB and then put it on other devices like your phone etc.? Or burn to a CDr (if you have a CD burner). Or is is it copy protected so that you can only play the music off the stick? I'm guessing it's in WAV format?

Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 08, 2023, 17:39
USB Stick edition with bonus tracks in form of:
  • No Reason (Extended Mix)
  • Live Again (feat. Halo Maud) [Extended Mix]
  • Skipping Like A Stone (feat. Beck) [Extended Mix]
  • All Of A Sudden

    I guess "Skipping Like A Stone" might be one of the singles.
So "I Want To Know" remains an exclusive Japanese bonus track. All Of A Sudden is a bonus track for Japan and the USB. No Reason (Extended) and Live Again (Extended) are exclusive to the USB version. Though in the case of No Reason (Extended), it's barely worth having on the album IMHO, as it's very similar to the regular version.

Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 08, 2023, 17:39
Potential tracks spoilers:
Intro includes the vocals by Halo Maud, might be the elements of Live Again, might be something else, dunno.

Our sample hunt for Goodbye was all correct!

Fountains has the VOCALS SUNG BY TOM, with Halo Maud being the backing vox.

Skipping Like A Stone has backing vox by Tom & Halo Maud

The Weight appears to have the longest credit section, which makes me smile.

 It seems like "Rock Witchu" isn't there, maybe it's our "I want to know"?

You just zoomed in on the liner notes for the USB in order to read the credits I presume?

Interesting note under Goodbye: "we request that the rights holder of this composition contact BMG as we have been unable to contact them despite all efforts". They also say it contains an actual sample of Good-bye by Theresa Harris and the Gene Parker Quintet. Well it can't be the vocals they sampled can it?

For The Weight we know which track by Barry Brown has been sampled now: Big Big Pollution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrO6e8b10Dg

For Magic Wand, the Jerome Lenoir (aka Bobby Sanders) written song that's been sampled is NOT Strung Out as I previously guessed (though I still think I found the source of the beat for It Doesn't Matter on that track), it's Nothing From Nothing by French Coffey featuring Rozlin. She actually sings "if I had a magic wand".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv2HXdBr4Z8


Quote from: rynostar on Aug 08, 2023, 19:11
Is that the direct input version or the osmosis download version?
Remember when Microsoft had the exclusive on TDTYF for their video back in 2021? Bill Gates has been working with the Chems since then on injecting music into our veins via the next Covid booster. You just have to ask For That Beautiful Feeling when you go to the (East Village) Pharmacy. Alternatively you can just sing "you should feel what I feel you should take what I take" and wink at the pharmacist.

(I cant get rid of the word "/list" at the end of this post. Something to do with the way I quoted JRSZ who used the list function, but don't try to fix it Csar. It's not worth the effort!)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Aug 08, 2023, 23:45
Did you guys also see that the USB also contains an extra chapter for "Paused In Cosmic Reflection"?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Aug 09, 2023, 00:21
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 08, 2023, 20:27
So "I Want To Know" remains an exclusive Japanese bonus track. All Of A Sudden is a bonus track for Japan and the USB. No Reason (Extended) and Live Again (Extended) are exclusive to the USB version. Though in the case of No Reason (Extended), it's barely worth having on the album IMHO, as it's very similar to the regular version.
Live Again (Extended) has already been released on streaming with the Mara Jane Coles remix of Live Again, No Reason (Extended) is already out on Soundcloud and Beatport (and it is pretty barely different, as you pointed out), All Of A Sudden had it's own release digitally, and based on this, Skipping Like A Stone will probably be a single soon and will probably also come out with an extended mix on Soundcloud and Beatport. So unless there are some differences in any of them, it doesn't seem there's anything particularly new with those. A little disappointing, but much better than nothing!

I actually think it's really cool they are releasing it in this format as well. It's really cool to have a physical object to attach to and show off that you have your favorite music, but it can get rather expensive. This is a super cool, cheap, fun option that comes with some bonus features as well. I'm glad I waited to buy the CD, because this is definitely how I'm gonna buy it!

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 25, 2023, 10:35
At this point, Sure Shot/Rock Witchu is looking more likely to remain an unreleased DJ weapon, similar to Pumisher's Erection Song. I'm also thinking back to the Bolis Pupil track, "Teknow" which they did a radical re-work of back in 2017 (played at DJ dates: Nuits Sonores in France and Il Muretto, Jesolo, Italy). There was a lot of addtional Chemical production on that "Teknow" re-work, but it was nonetheless an unofficial re-edit and it remains unreleased.
I'm beginning to fear this too... I'm praying it's not the case, but I could see them shelfing it unfortunately. I might have to stick with my Frankenstein'd together short clip for years until they release it with their 40th anniversary sequel book...
Spoiler
Spoiler
"I Want To Know" sounds interesting but probably isn't it - there's no lyric I know of that says that in the song. There's "I want to rock with you," but I'm not sure if that's close enough. 

Since the other Japan exclusive track is All Of A Sudden, and that's already been put out as a B-Side, I'm guessing this one will probably also be put out as a B-Side to the next single. Maybe we'll get it with Skipping Like A Stone. 
 
It gets me thinking, where is the line between sampling, and just a remix? I viewed it, in this case, as more of a sample, but perhaps the Chems viewed it differently. Maybe they couldn't get permission to release it. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Aug 09, 2023, 04:19
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 08, 2023, 20:27
I recall in the latter days of CD singles, I would sometimes see Top 40 singles on sale in HMV in the form of tiny USB sticks, though I never bought one. Anyone else ever bought one? And if so:  is it possible to easily take the music off the USB and then put it on other devices like your phone etc.? Or burn to a CDr (if you have a CD burner). Or is is it copy protected so that you can only play the music off the stick? I'm guessing it's in WAV format?
I bought Mr Scruff's 'Ninja Tuna' on USB back in the day. The USB stick was enclosed in a rubberized version of the fish on the front cover. It was neat! But the USB stick stopped working very soon after I got it.
And yes, you would just copy the files off the usb stick onto your computer (they'll likely be mp3s - though I guess they could be higher quality wavs?) and then import them into your music player of choice (assuming you still use one, and not Spotify like most people) or directly onto your phone.
If your computer still has a disc drive you could then burn a CD. I think copy protected mp3s are largely a thing of the past. I certainly haven't come across any issues with them with all of the files I've downloaded in the last decade.

I wish they did something a little more fun with this USB, design wise.
I do like being able to get the album onto my computer without having to illegally download it after getting no download code with my CD or Vinyl (actually, I did buy an external CD drive recently, so I'll be ripping it like the old days!) - but the extra tracks, as others have mentioned, don't really seem worth the additional format for me.

Also, an exclusive chapter of a book that already had 3 tiers of exclusivity? That's where things begin to get silly.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 09, 2023, 06:43
"I want to know" samples Mark Snow's X-Files theme
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 09, 2023, 09:23
Quote from: Enjoyed on Aug 09, 2023, 04:19
Also, an exclusive chapter of a book that already had 3 tiers of exclusivity? That's where things begin to get silly.
Ha! Good point. Now everyone jump back and read Enjoyed's full post, because it sucks when you write a thoughtful post at the bottom of a page and then the page gets turned shortly afterwards...

Oh also re: the USB tracklist, as MONO already pointed out in the No Reason thread:
Quote from: M_O_N_O on Jul 19, 2023, 20:47
The album version of 'No Reason' is 4:52 and longer than the Extended Version from Beatport (4:38)
So if you listen to the USB album as it is presented, you get the album version first, this is later followed by the extended version which is presumably shorter!

Re: Halo Maud, I guess she is this album's "Aurora". She seems to appear on 5 (five) tracks in some shape or form:
1) Intro "vocals by Halo Maud"
2) Live Again (Feat Halo Maud)
3) Fountains "backing vocals by Halo Maud"
4) Skipping Like A Stone "backing vocals by Halo Maud & Tom"
5) For That Beautiful Feeling "vocals by Halo Maud"


Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 09, 2023, 06:43
"I want to know" samples Mark Snow's X-Files theme
I heard they already did a sneaky sample of that in a certain Kele Okereke collab track.

I also heard that I Want To Know samples:
Credence Clearwater Revival: Have You Ever Seen The Rain?
Abba: The Name Of The Game.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Aug 09, 2023, 16:14
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 09, 2023, 06:43
"I want to know" samples Mark Snow's X-Files theme
What?! Where are you getting this from?

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 09, 2023, 09:23
I heard they already did a sneaky sample of that in a certain Kele Okereke collab track. I also heard that I Want To Know samples: Credence Clearwater Revival: Have You Ever Seen The Rain? Abba: The Name Of The Game.
WHAT?! Collab track?! Is it already out? Where are you getting these other samples?!

I'm really hoping this track brings out the strange Chemical goodness that I love to hear. And those samples are making me feel a bit like it might...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: cowboy on Aug 09, 2023, 16:18
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 08, 2023, 18:17
Surely this is a joke.
I say, as I click 'pre-order'  ::)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Aug 09, 2023, 17:05
Quote from: ; on Aug 09, 2023, 16:14
What?! Where are you getting this from?

it's a joke.

Im going to assume most of us know what the show (X-Files) is about, but if not, do a quick wiki to fill yourself in on the details.

Anyway... X-Files released a stand alone film "I Want to Believe", which Pumisher is making a play on. Furthermore, the statement, "I want to know/ believe ", is a general credo of the T.V./Movie series
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Aug 09, 2023, 17:32
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 09, 2023, 17:05
it's a joke. Im going to assume most of us know what the show (X-Files) is about, but if not, do a quick wiki to fill yourself in on the details. Anyway... X-Files released a stand alone film "I Want to Believe", which Pumisher is making a play on. Furthermore, the statement, "I want to know/ believe ", is a general credo of the T.V./Movie series
Ah, that makes a lot more sense! I know of the X-Files, but didn't know about that movie title, and haven't heard of those other songs you said it sampled. My apologies for my uncultured-ness!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Aug 10, 2023, 16:05
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 08, 2023, 20:27
You just zoomed in on the liner notes for the USB in order to read the credits I presume?
exactly XDDD
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 10, 2023, 16:58
Quote from: ; on Aug 09, 2023, 17:32
and haven't heard of those other songs you said it sampled.
Wolkenkrabber is talking about "Believe" from Flip The Switch Push The Button, which features Kele on vocals (which are very often 'I Need You To Believe!')
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 10, 2023, 18:16
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 09, 2023, 17:05
...the statement, "I want to know/ believe ", is a general credo of the T.V./Movie series

It was never "I Want To Know", it was always "I Want To Believe". Every. Single. Episode.
Unless it was different in German in which case I might forgive Pumisher...


Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 10, 2023, 16:58
Wolkenkrabber is talking about "Believe" 
I was, but "those other songs" Mr ; was referring to were the CCR and Abba songs. Younger listeners should check 'em out!
Speaking of possible samples, have I mentioned the rumour on Facebook that "I Want To Know" actually contains a sample of one of Foreigner's best known songs? No idea which one though...

What do you mean "this is getting silly now"?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Aug 10, 2023, 19:55
I've heard that "I Want To Know" actually, much like Fatboy Slims "Praise You," samples the 1973 Fat Albert theme!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Aug 11, 2023, 08:05
Before we drop the X-Files angle on 'I Want to Know'...

remember, this is the A-side to 'Good-Bye':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KPcM1idizI&t

Now, cue the Mark Snow!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Heads on Aug 14, 2023, 07:15
First review of the album out in this month's Uncut mag.

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: cowboy on Aug 14, 2023, 11:42
Begging for Pitchfork to not touch FTBF. We don't need another lie being that WATN is a 3.8 on our hands. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Aug 14, 2023, 16:06
Quote from: mesamm99 on Aug 08, 2023, 23:45
Did you guys also see that the USB also contains an extra chapter for "Paused In Cosmic Reflection"?
Quote from: Enjoyed on Aug 09, 2023, 04:19
Also, an exclusive chapter of a book that already had 3 tiers of exclusivity? That's where things begin to get silly.
This really pisses me of 😡. At least 500 people spend £ 130 for an exclusive book with all good stuff and now we have to pay an additional £ 10 to get an extra chapter to print out and add in the book? That's ridiculous and degrading for the book. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Aug 14, 2023, 18:43
Quote from: cowboy on Aug 14, 2023, 11:42
Begging for Pitchfork to not touch FTBF. We don't need another lie being that WATN is a 3.8 on our hands. 

3.8 was harsh, but to be fair, I don't think it's a "lie" in comparison to their other work.

WATN is not a starter album for new fans.  The score, especially in retrospect, gets that point across.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Aug 14, 2023, 20:01
Quote from: Heads on Aug 14, 2023, 07:15
First review of the album out in this month's Uncut mag.

beautifulfeeling_uncut.jpg
This makes me quite excited for Magic Wand, then! A "beautifully brooding, pitch-shifted prowl" sounds exactly what I look for in a Chems track! Very excited for that one and The Weight, Fountains will be interesting too. All of these titles sound and feel like happy Chems songs, but I love me some brooding. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Aug 14, 2023, 21:42
Quote from: cowboy on Aug 14, 2023, 11:42
Begging for Pitchfork to not touch FTBF. We don't need another lie being that WATN is a 3.8 on our hands.
Lol, right? I am squarely in the pro-We Are The Night camp, and that scathing, low score had my panties all bunched up for days, haha

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 15, 2023, 06:39
3.8 out of 10????????????
I'd be scared to know what counts as good music for that particular reviewer.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Champiness on Aug 15, 2023, 14:28
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 15, 2023, 06:39
3.8 out of 10????????????
I'd be scared to know what counts as good music for that particular reviewer.
Apparently slightly later Chemical Brothers records (https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16424-the-chemical-brothers-dont-think/), lol
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 15, 2023, 15:44
That disparity is wild.
Did he maybe put WATN on backwards? Were his headphones or speakers broken??
Was there a mixup and the sleeve contained not the Chems album but the soundtrack to this German movie (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1692504/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_5_nm_3_q_we%20are%20the%20night)?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: cowboy on Aug 15, 2023, 20:27
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 14, 2023, 18:43
3.8 was harsh, but to be fair, I don't think it's a "lie" in comparison to their other work.
Yeah, that's fair - it strays from their past work but it's definitely not a 3.8. Anything above a 5 is good enough for me. 
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 14, 2023, 18:43
WATN is not a starter album for new fans
True. I definitely never recommend WATN to people that are interested - I give them EPD, DYOH or NG. Though an album not suitable to 'outsiders' doesn't necessarily equate to a poor score, I think. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: cowboy on Aug 15, 2023, 20:49
Quote from: whirlygirl on Aug 14, 2023, 21:42
Lol, right? I am squarely in the pro-We Are The Night camp, and that scathing, low score had my panties all bunched up for days, haha


I live, eat and breathe WATN. I treat it like gospel. Especially during The Salmon Dance  ::))
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 15, 2023, 23:14
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 15, 2023, 06:39
I'd be scared to know what counts as good music for that particular reviewer.
Miguel's "Kaleidoscope Dream"


Quote from: Stefan on Aug 15, 2023, 15:44
Did he maybe put WATN on backwards?
He only listens to Harpoons but never to Snooprah
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 18, 2023, 15:13
Three weeks to go!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Aug 19, 2023, 04:26
My dog is very excited. Though I think he thinks he's getting a new ball for some reason...

(https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/635261/files/21683302/chuck-it-chuckit-ultra-squeaker-ball-large.jpg)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 25, 2023, 11:04
One week to go! Until Pumpkin Spice Season starts at Starbucks

Two weeks until For That Beautiful Feeling!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Aug 25, 2023, 14:35
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 25, 2023, 11:04
One week to go! Until Pumpkin Spice Season starts at Starbucks

Two weeks until For That Beautiful Feeling!
Lol Ewww pumpkin spice flavored stuff 🤢 

I can't believe the big reveal is almost here!! Time has flown!

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 25, 2023, 15:30
The spice must flow!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Aug 25, 2023, 16:55
I'll get the pumpkin spice colored variant, thank you!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 25, 2023, 22:32
I'll skip the Album and wait for "Further (Taylor's Version)"
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Champiness on Aug 26, 2023, 15:24
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 25, 2023, 22:32
I'll skip the Album and wait for "Further (Taylor's Version)"
Taylor looks out for her base, she'd get us the unmixed
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 29, 2023, 05:54
10 days to go!
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hstn on Aug 30, 2023, 02:53
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 25, 2023, 22:32
I'll skip the Album and wait for "Further (Taylor's Version)"
Further (Frank's Version)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 30, 2023, 07:19
We're in the single digits, just 9 days to go
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Aug 30, 2023, 17:59
Closer evey day!

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 30, 2023, 18:19
Quote from: nekoland on Aug 30, 2023, 17:59
Closer evey day!

Battery at 17%

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 31, 2023, 07:11
8 days to go!

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Aug 31, 2023, 10:43
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 25, 2023, 22:32
I'll skip the Album and wait for "Further (Taylor's Version)"
Quote from: Champiness on Aug 26, 2023, 15:24
Taylor looks out for her base, she'd get us the unmixed
Can anyone help me here? What pop-cultural phenomenon is this referencing to? Taylor Swift? And if yes, in what way?

Quote from: nekoland on Aug 30, 2023, 17:59
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I have to admit, similar to @sneakerbeater in the themes board, seeing these LPs like that, the artwork is slowly growing on me. It'll be real hard to miss any format in the record store, for sure.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 31, 2023, 11:24
Quote from: Csar on Aug 31, 2023, 10:43
Can anyone help me here? What pop-cultural phenomenon is this referencing to? Taylor Swift?
Of course it's Taylor Swift :D
She is recently re-recording all of her previous albums (called album name + "Taylor's Version"), because her previous record label in some fuckery sold the master records to a music manager who bullied her: https://time.com/5949979/why-taylor-swift-is-rerecording-old-albums/
By re-recording all of her work, she's not only regaining ownership of her songs but also giving her fans a chance to listen/buy the music without contributing to the profits of a person who she's not on good terms with.
I even remember posting about this here, because iirc there's some fun legal stuff where the new owner now has the rights to the records, but not the rights to the songs themselves, and without those the ways in which he can profit from it are very limited.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Aug 31, 2023, 11:49
Aaah!! I remember having read something about this, most likely your post even, but didn't made the above connection. Thanks!
I wonder how the Brothers have been able to navigate this, given the recent development of moving their entire catalogue to BMG.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Aug 31, 2023, 16:22
OT: Here is the original thread on Twitter, where I read about Taylor Swift's re-recordings for the first time:
https://twitter.com/ThatsMauvelous/status/1380572708879089674
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Champiness on Aug 31, 2023, 18:20
Quote from: Csar on Aug 31, 2023, 10:43
Can anyone help me here?
Also: I, additionally, was alluding to the special deluxe iTunes version of Further that tied into some short-lived "DVD album" initiative where you could click on an item in your library and open up a menu with options to play all the music videos, along with a button that promised in the future to provide access to unmixed versions of the songs - which never became active. We've been intermittently complaining about this fact on here ever since.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 01, 2023, 01:50
Quote from: Champiness on Aug 31, 2023, 18:20
Also: I, personally, was alluding to the special deluxe iTunes version of Further
Fun reminder that the Chems also gave away iPads as part of the promotion of Further!

I guess the Chems have had something with Apple for a while now.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 01, 2023, 06:48
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That's right, just one week to go!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 01, 2023, 11:00
Anyone else get this mail?

(https://abload.de/img/screenshot2023-09-0110uc32.png)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 01, 2023, 11:17
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 01, 2023, 11:00
Anyone else get this mail?
Yup, voted for Goodbye
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 01, 2023, 12:02
With the album being so close, I'm pretty indifferent as to what teaser we'll get next week.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 01, 2023, 12:13
I want it all (of course) but will take any preview offered! I voted for Goodbye, maybe it was peer pressure as it has the highest votes at the moment, lol Gah!! Release day is getting sooooooo close!  :music
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 01, 2023, 14:41
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 31, 2023, 11:24
there's some fun legal stuff where the new owner now has the rights to the records, but not the rights to the songs themselves
yeah, there's a difference between a recording and a song. when we buy a record or stream it we're actually obtaining a copy of the recording, and the owner of that recording is who gets our money. they may have some agreement to share some of that profit with the original songwriters and/or performers, but that's between them.

Taylor has the rights to the new recordings and the previous folk retain the rights to the old recordings. who gets paid now depends on which recordings are streamed or purchased.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 01, 2023, 14:45
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 31, 2023, 16:22
OT: Here is the original thread on Twitter, where I read about Taylor Swift's re-recordings for the first time:
https://twitter.com/ThatsMauvelous/status/1380572708879089674
this is a great thread.

and... I'll get back on topic now.  :))
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Sep 01, 2023, 19:56
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 01, 2023, 11:00
Anyone else get this mail?
I voted for "For That Beautiful Feeling" - It just felt right.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 01, 2023, 20:21
I won't be listening to any previews THIS close to release.

So, if anyone wants me to vote for something in particular, I will be taking donations to my PayPal account.

Joking of course, and happy to vote with a consensus!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 02, 2023, 00:24
Just did my preorder for the vinyl and cd at my record store. Gonna use a sick day for next friday and suck on an Icee while listening to 'Goodbye'

I would like to vote but I don't see 'KDB Is Godlike'!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 02, 2023, 14:34
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Sep 02, 2023, 00:24
I would like to vote but I don't see 'KDB Is Godlike'!

 8)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 02, 2023, 14:56
Hold tight, just six days to go!
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 02, 2023, 18:06
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 02, 2023, 14:56
Hold tight, just six days to go!
6.gif
So I love this South Park episode. And if it isn't common knowledge, Matt and Trey (South Park creators) bought the actual Casa Bonita restaurant they refer to in this episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re5o2I1t5co
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 03, 2023, 01:08
I guess it doesn't matter much at this point, but more tracks have been listed on SACEM including a couple of instrumentals. One of which is the Japanese bonus track.

For these new listings, we already have the info from the USB tracklisting:
INTRO
FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL FEELING
FOUNTAINS
GOODBYE

But also:

I WANT TO KNOW INSTRUMENTAL VERSION
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN

I WANT TO KNOW
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED, UNKNOWN PUBLISHER
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN, Stephen Jacob KEDLARCHUK


MAGIC WAND INSTRUMENTAL VERSION
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN


MAGIC WAND
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED, UNKNOWN PUBLISHER
Composer/Author : SANDERS BOBBY, OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN

So, I Want To Know contains some kind of sample from a Stephen Jacob KEDLARCHUK. I'm guessing it's a spoken word sample like Free Yourself/No Geography/Nothing But Pleasure. Mr Kedlarchuck's name doesn't come up on Discogs at all. Google offers me Ancestry dot com (https://www.ancestry.com/search/?name=_Kedlarchuk), but even there, it's not immediately clear who he is. The instrumental version gives him no credit.

I list the "regular" version of Magic Wand as well as the instrumental. We already know that (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,2774.msg33449.html#msg33449) it borrows from Nothing From Nothing by French Coffey (written by Bobby Sanders). The instrumental version doesn't credit Mr Sanders. So again here it seems no sample = no credit required.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 03, 2023, 02:20
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 03, 2023, 01:08
I WANT TO KNOW
Sub-Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT (FRANCE)
Publisher : BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT UK LIMITED, UNKNOWN PUBLISHER
Composer/Author : OSTYN ROWLANDS THOMAS OWEN M, SIMONS EDMUND JOHN, Stephen Jacob KEDLARCHUK


So, I Want To Know contains some kind of sample from a Stephen Jacob KEDLARCHUK. I'm guessing it's a spoken word sample like Free Yourself/No Geography/Nothing But Pleasure. Mr Kedlarchuck's name doesn't come up on Discogs at all. Google offers me Ancestry dot com (https://www.ancestry.com/search/?name=_Kedlarchuk), but even there, it's not immediately clear who he is. The instrumental version gives him no credit.

Click for Credited Source

(Jump to 1:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEW5BtxB_Q

This track is part of the same compilation that "Good-Bye" can be found on.

https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/album/single-collection-vol-14
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 03, 2023, 02:54
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 03, 2023, 02:20
Click for Credited Source

(Jump to 1:15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEW5BtxB_Q

This track is part of the same compilation that "Good-Bye" can be found on.

https://tramprecords.bandcamp.com/album/single-collection-vol-14


Aha. Well it's 4am and I should be asleep. Is there a connection/reference to Stephen Kedlarchuk that I've not spotted?
Something here? (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Oj0hAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA2195&lpg=PA2195&dq=organic+rock+Shalynn+Stephen+KED+LARCHUK&source=bl&ots=KdauVwLMca&sig=ACfU3U05Uzu5A07-V_1w-jIdIIDTpegb2g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiy0OXMuI2BAxUIh1wKHSWJA7MQ6AF6BAgJEAM#v=onepage&q=organic%20rock%20Shalynn%20Stephen%20KED%20LARCHUK&f=false)

EDIT: Oh I see the name written on the label here. But how did you find it?
(https://i.discogs.com/mzxSn_7exCG6-ZdEcj7WPJWDspKmZ1OmucD2Uar-KJ0/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:594/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTc0NTE5/MjctMTQ4MzExNDY4/OC03NzkyLmpwZWc.jpeg)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 03, 2023, 03:16
multiple name searches... essentially hitting on Stephen "Jacob Kedlarchuk". It leads to music copyright catalog on google where his name is spelled "Steven Jacob Kedlarchuk" attached to the pseudonym "Shalynn". You can probably figure out the rest..
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 03, 2023, 12:09
High Five for five Days left!

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 03, 2023, 14:46
No Rock Witchu? :c  
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: actionjackson780 on Sep 03, 2023, 18:42
A short review of FTBF on the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/03/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling-review-pure-techno-pleasure?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other) has gotten me even more excited!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 03, 2023, 18:48
Quote from: actionjackson780 on Sep 03, 2023, 18:42
A short review of FTBF on the Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/03/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling-review-pure-techno-pleasure?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other) has gotten me even more excited!
Really glad there's a good few Psychedelic instrumentals on the album. That's a couple of early reviews now said that it's a largely guest free experience 😁
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 03, 2023, 20:40
Just a minor point: In the top left of that article you will see "The Observer". That's the Sunday paper published by the Guardian. But confusingly, they electronically publish the Observer articles on The Guardian website.
I suspect we'll get another review of FTBF from the actual Guardian Newspaper.
They also have a US arm. Sometimes with films you'll get reviews from Guardian US, The Observer and The Guardian (UK), all on the one website.

Oh one more thing, the Guardian are very "pally" with the Chems (some of their music journos like Dorian Lynskey seem to actually be friends with T&E). I'm not sure there's ever been a bad review of the Chems in that paper. If they give the Chems a 4 star review, I might be tempted to knock a star off for bias/pallyness.

Am I being a Debbie Downer or just aiming for full disclosure? You decide.


https://twitter.com/Dorianlynskey/status/1218095601612664832
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 04, 2023, 02:51
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 03, 2023, 20:40
If they give the Chems a 4 star review, I might be tempted to knock a star off for bias/pallyness.

::) bruh, just listen to the album and don't worry how your opinion measures up with the media's potentially "bias" take.

Look, let's just be happy we're just 4/5 days away from their 10th studio album. The world was in an impossibly strange (largely, still is) and non-functional (also, still is) place 3 years ago. Thank goodness some of us made it this far to be a witness. If there is a positive review of chems, embrace it, and don't focus putting it through the wringer so much.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 04, 2023, 09:59
Perhaps I've been misunderstood.
When a British film gets reviewed in Brtish media and it gets 4 stars (or 2 or whatever). If I think about going to see it, then I know I have to knock a star off their review. Cos Brtish films always get an extra star from British media just for being British (smaller industry than Hollywood, offering encouragement etc).

"Don't worry how your opinion measures up with the media's" is my point. You're stealing my point!
Of course what I (we) think matters more than the media reviews. I'm simply offering a "managing expectations" POV for those tempted to get over excited by these little reviews. I'd hate to see anyone here saying "wait, I expected more" on Friday.

PS My stuff explaining how you can get three different reviews on the Guardian website goes back to Trespass Against Us(!). I remember someone here commenting on a review and saying: "We'll get another review in the Guardian next week saying something different". So I was somewhat belatedly(!) explaining why that happens. And perhaps by the time I'd finished writing all that stuff, it looked like I'm obsessed with reviews. I'm not - promise.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 04, 2023, 11:30
Sir Paul McCartney teaching us how to count the days until the new album!
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 04, 2023, 18:22
I went to a golfing range today, and people must love the Chems here, because they keep shouting the number of days until the albums release! Might come back tomorrow to hear everyone yelling "THREE!"
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 05, 2023, 06:57
Hopefully the people at the Chems webstore know that the Kingdom isn't EU anymore. Shipping wont be same speed as pre-brexit.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Sep 05, 2023, 10:18
got 2 spares for rough trade east listening party tomorrow - PM me if you want them and i can transfer them otherwise i'll release to waiting list :) 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 05, 2023, 13:06
Three days, we're in the home stretch!
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Sep 05, 2023, 15:38
https://s.awa.fm/album/9f9daed4023e8d6d0927?t=1693926001 (https://s.awa.fm/album/9f9daed4023e8d6d0927?t=1693926001)

!!!

Sounds like Tame Impala!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 05, 2023, 15:56
Quote from: nekoland on Sep 05, 2023, 15:38
https://s.awa.fm/album/9f9daed4023e8d6d0927?t=1693926001 (https://s.awa.fm/album/9f9daed4023e8d6d0927?t=1693926001)

!!!

Sounds like Tame Impala!
Another single? :P

played just a 5 secs, I don't want to spoil the album 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Sep 05, 2023, 16:09
Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 05, 2023, 15:56
Another single? :P

played just a 5 secs, I don't want to spoil the album
It's a 30s snippet.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 05, 2023, 16:19
Quote from: nekoland on Sep 05, 2023, 16:09
It's a 30s snippet.
Yes, it is, but the whole release is listed as the digital single release and NEOREV states that it's not only listed on this one website, but on other japanese streaming platforms as well with the release date being 6.09.
As I'm writting it it's exactly 6.09 1am in Japan.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 05, 2023, 17:02
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 05, 2023, 06:57
Hopefully the people at the Chems webstore know that the Kingdom isn't EU anymore. Shipping wont be same speed as pre-brexit.
Web store also added a "numbered" art print of album art.

What's really wonky is people from the US  are getting varied prices through seemingly two different ordering websites:

The Main (w/USD)-
https://store.thechemicalbrothers.com

The US link tree link-
https://thechemicalbrothersstore.com/?utm_source=Original&utm_campaign=TheChemicalBrothers20230717&utm_medium=original&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Flinktr.ee%2F&utm_board=emi-records-uk&utm_country=GB&utm_linkurl=TheChemicalBrothers.lnk.to%2FFTBF
(This might not work for all if it's auto-geolocate)

Not all items are available in both stores and some items are more expensive than others (look at price of USB, and vinyl slip mat). I'm assuming the US link tree is shipping from somewhere in US vs the main store link, but still, why should certain items be more/less expensive? Poorly monitored or poorly managed.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 05, 2023, 18:05
Yes, the chemicalbrothersstore is the official US shop for their stuff. Errol confirmed this when I reached out to him about whether this site was legit - because they're using an almost identical (but crooked upon closer look) bookmark icon that caught my eye in a google sesrch. I flagged this with them and also mentioned the missing terms & conditions and /or other verifiable info to exactly prevent what you describe. Although thanking me for raising this issue, they still haven't addressed it yet.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 05, 2023, 21:45
Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 05, 2023, 16:19
Yes, it is, but the whole release is listed as the digital single release and NEOREV states that it's not only listed on this one website, but on other japanese streaming platforms as well with the release date being 6.09.
As I'm writting it it's exactly 6.09 1am in Japan.
Yes, the full song is available digitally for sale already in Japan as they are a day ahead. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 05, 2023, 22:09
Quote from: neorev on Sep 05, 2023, 21:45
Yes, the full song is available digitally for sale already in Japan as they are a day ahead.
And now it's also avalible here in poland, so yup, it's confirmed, we've got another single
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 05, 2023, 23:28
Single up on Qobuz 
https://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/for-that-beautiful-feeling-the-chemical-brothers-halo-maud/tf1uvihsylijc
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 06, 2023, 09:38
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Yes, that's right, we are just two days away from the new album!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Sep 06, 2023, 12:02
Another review!
https://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling/ (https://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling/)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Heads on Sep 06, 2023, 12:18
and another: https://www.musicomh.com/reviews/albums/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling

Oops, paywalled, but managed to screengrab it.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 06, 2023, 12:27
Fantastic! These positive reviews make me so happy. I love seeing the brothers getting the respect they deserve.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 06, 2023, 14:16
Hype is growing even stronger!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 06, 2023, 14:58
could we start counting down hours at this point? in the US media tends to appear on streaming sites at 9 pm Pacific the night before, which is only 37 hours away.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 06, 2023, 15:25
I gave it a shot, time's set to 12:00am UTC+1, for London time.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 06, 2023, 15:42
https://www.nme.com/reviews/album/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling-album-review-3494094

Another positive review  :partyG
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 06, 2023, 16:12
Hey, all! We're gonna host an early bird listening party tomorrow over on the ChemBros Discord server, here's a link + some more info if you'd like to join: https://discord.gg/u6BbM9ruhe?event=1148947227067289671
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 06, 2023, 16:19
For the US folk here, For That Beautiful Feeling CD is on sale for only $9.89 on Amazon...

https://a.co/d/bzsTQti
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 06, 2023, 20:23
Dammit I want to listen to the new stuff so bad, but with the album being this close I'll wait for the full release
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 06, 2023, 20:38
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 06, 2023, 16:12
Hey, all! We're gonna host an early bird listening party tomorrow over on the ChemBros Discord server, here's a link + some more info if you'd like to join: https://discord.gg/u6BbM9ruhe?event=1148947227067289671

Oh Chemical HQ have provided you with an offical stream to listen to the album early?
It'd be nice if they had offered that to the Fan Forum that has an official link to their website (yeah ths one). Oh well...
Some of us heard the album today (me!), and I'm not sure I have room for another app on my phone (Discord is app-only isn't it?) so I'll just have to make do with my experience from today. And then hear it again at midninght tomorrow.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 06, 2023, 21:46
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 06, 2023, 20:38
It'd be nice if they had offered that to the Fan Forum that has an official link to their website (yeah ths one). Oh well...
Fwiw, Discord and Reddit were officially linked when I was exploring around on homepage with computer last night.

On quick glance I don't see any links via mobile version (which I am on now), otherwise I would've screen grabbed
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Sep 06, 2023, 22:29
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 06, 2023, 20:38
Oh Chemical HQ have provided you with an offical stream to listen to the album early?
It'd be nice if they had offered that to the Fan Forum that has an official link to their website (yeah ths one). Oh well...
Some of us heard the album today (me!), and I'm not sure I have room for another app on my phone (Discord is app-only isn't it?) so I'll just have to make do with my experience from today. And then hear it again at midninght tomorrow.
Pretty sure you can access discord on the web
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 06, 2023, 22:52
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 06, 2023, 20:38
I'm not sure I have room for another app on my phone (Discord is app-only isn't it?)
Quote from: gfa2001 on Sep 06, 2023, 22:29
Pretty sure you can access discord on the web
instantreigen's Chems Discord is directly linked via this forum in the top menu strip. Just click it and sign up there. No app needed.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 06, 2023, 23:16
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 06, 2023, 20:38
Oh Chemical HQ have provided you with an offical stream to listen to the album early?
Most likely listening to it via VPN, as it's exactly australian midnight :D
I did the same for Orbital's Optical Delusion as I had a free trial to some vpn
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: cowboy on Sep 06, 2023, 23:17
Attended the listening party - will give my own review.

11/10 stars. I now want to become the album.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 06, 2023, 23:54
Quote from: cowboy on Sep 06, 2023, 23:17
Attended the listening party - will give my own review.

11/10 stars. I now want to become the album.
Haha awesome!! Yes! Best review I've read of the album so far and I'm gonna take your word for it! 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 07, 2023, 04:56
Chemical Siblings, we've almost made it!
Just one day to go!

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Heads on Sep 07, 2023, 10:58
https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/the-chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling-album-review-b1105333.html

A nice 5 star review.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 07, 2023, 11:06
Quote from: cowboy on Sep 06, 2023, 23:17
my own review. ..11/10 stars. I now want to become the album.
Oh is it review time? TL;DR? 3.5 to 4 stars from me. It's not perfect, but it's good.

Verbose review under spoiler tags.
FTBF verbose review

INTRO
Simply a short prequel of the album's title track. The opening "bookend" to the album. This then segues into...

LIVE AGAIN
Yep it's the version we know, nothing new to report here. I would still like a more traditional song structure, but as with the title track (more on that later), there seems to be an "artistic" intention here. Perhaps this is why we have the modern art images to go with this release; it's not about following conventional rules of structure.

This then segues into

NO REASON
But the segue is "broken" and there's a big gap. Rough Trade seem to be playing digital files of the album and their player/software isn't smoothly transitioning the tracks.
We all know No Reason; it's funky, it's catchy it's the "lead single".

No Reason segues with some big drums into

GOODBYE
- the track FKA Big Beat Space Gospel. But here we no longer have the "gospel" according to Jesse Jackson.
The song we get (whether the original version by Teresa Harris or this cover version) doesn't feel like a complete song. No clear verse/chorus structure to my mind. But nontheless it's a lovely thing with its big beats and big bassy-y synths. That bass vibrates from the Bowers & Wilkins speakers through my head and down to my feet (I was parked under a speaker). I think I can hear a little vocal tribute to Josh Wink's Higher State Of Consciousness (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,60.msg33026.html#msg33026) floating around too.
Comparing this to the original Teresa Harris "Good bye" track - it's such a vast improvement, almost unrecognisable. Kudos to Tom/Chems for seeing the potential here. I just wish this album version was as long as the DJ version.

FOUNTAINS
Ok this one is the "curveball" of the album. At first I wondered if they had changed the record by accident. Initially it sounds like a cross between Tom Tom Club and... um, Destiny's Child(?).
A jerky, pop-y thing with falsetto vocals (oh it's Tom!) and funky guitar.
The line "inside your hands" seems to get repeated a lot, and then we get some pseudo-Indian synth sounds a la Charanjit Singh (https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/25363/1/rip-acid-house-pioneer-charanjit-singh) (RIP).  Well there's nothing wrong with a bit of variety but I'm just not sure that this track does it for me. Perhaps an R&B girl group will cover this in a couple of years and have a big hit.

MAGIC WAND
The opening beats remind me of U2's Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car. Then we get the female vocal sample from French Coffey's 'Nothing From Nothing'; "I'll give you everything, I'll make you feel like a king". The sample is well used, to the extent that it feels like vocals recorded for this track rather than an obvious cut up of another track. This track also has R&B / Hip Hop vibes about it, but it works better than Fountains.

THE WEIGHT
This immediateky starts with the "Who's Gonna Take The Weight?" sample from South Bronx's The Big Throwdown. But it's not really a hip hop track. We hear a vocal sample from Barry Brown's The Big Pollution, but it's not a reggae track either! There's a throbbing bass & drum groove that puts me in mind of Leave Home and (the recently mentioned (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3313.msg33839.html#msg33839)) Let Us Build A City. There are dubby elements kinda floating and reverberating along the top of the track, but this is a bad ass groove. And I like it!

SKIPPING LIKE A STONE
There's no segue into this one, but we do get that long-ish, Kraftwerkian choral intro to settle us into a new timbre. We know the track by now; it takes a few listens to process it all, but there's a good song here.
As with others here, I think I prefer the extended mix. But alas we don't get to hear that one on the B&W speakers tonight.

THE DARKNESS THAT YOU FEAR (Harvest mix)
Yeah it's a new mix, No I can't tell you much more than that because Steph from Wales decided to chat to me about Field Day '22, and whether I was buyng the vinyl tonight (me: "No that's just a display copy". Steph: "No they're selling it"...)
EDIT: OK on second listen it has acoustic guitar early on and then groovy percussion sounds later on. A more 'live' feel than the original, but also goes a bit experimental at the end.

FEELS LIKE I'M DREAMING
Why not just title this one 'Dreaming'? Anyway it's a trippy electronic banger over a house/techno beat. It makes you want to move. I actually would have liked this track to "wig out" more than it does, with some kinda crazy synth solo in there somewhere. I think it gets a little repetitive over the course of its runtime and I still think it nicked an idea from Midnight Madness, but hey it ain't bad. Oh and it ends with that Kraftwerkian choral sound from Skipping Like A Stone.

FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL FEELING
That opening sound (continuing throughout) is like a slowed down Surface to Air. The opening vocals have an almost idylic Hawaiian vibe about them. I would agree with the Tame Impala reference (at least around that guitar riff which...doesn't come back), I'm also reminded of Wings' Band On The Run (McCartney's 'other' band of course greatly influenced Tame Impala's Lonerism).
It feel like the track takes a darker turn halfway through, like a David Lynch film that goes under the picket fence to see the insects scurrying around in the dirt.
By the end of the track Halo Maud's vocals almost feel like they're trying to force the issue, like a rictus grin when you're trying too hard to enjoy yourself, or as NME put it, like the comedown at the end of the party. This is art maaan! I can imagine this track being divisive. The people who don't like say, Radiate (they exist!) are really not gonna like this.
It could have taken easier options, and as BenJ said, it could also have been developed more, but it feels like this one is about the art rather than the people pleasing.

CONCLUSION
Overall it's a worthwhile album. There are no obvious "big hits" here, but there's plenty to enjoy.
I'm a little diappointed with the (short) length of Goodbye, I think Fountains feels out of place, and would prefer the extended mix of Skipping. Oh and Dreaming could do more.  So it's not gonna get 5 stars from me.
But it's a 3.5 to 4 star album for me. And because it's a Chemical 3.5 to 4 star album, that probably means it'll be my fave album of 2023.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 11:49
I'm absolutely pumped out of my mind to finally hear "Feels Like I'm Dreaming"
  ::Y 

If it's near to the live version we've been hearing for over a year then it's likely to become one of my all-time favourite CB tracks.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Explud on Sep 07, 2023, 11:56
Leaked. Maybe an hour ago.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 07, 2023, 12:26
I hate the internet!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: BurnerMan54 on Sep 07, 2023, 12:52
Quote from: Explud on Sep 07, 2023, 11:56
Leaked. Maybe an hour ago.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: wrclaguna on Sep 07, 2023, 12:58
You see the album at 3:56 minutes. by the window ?
0.25 she wasn't there yet


https://youtu.be/pqU4g5iJk2Y?t=238





Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 07, 2023, 13:09
The first impression is mitigated, not gonna lie. It feels like we've already heard all the interesting tracks, and the rest is not on the same level. It baffles me that we're getting Fountains (that could well be a Justin Timberlake track) when they're sitting on Papal Disco and other awesome stuff. 

No Reason, Feels Like I Am Dreaming and For That Beautiful Feeling are top tier, Live Again, Goodbye, Magic Wand are okay, but I think I'll skip (like a stone ? :Cray ) the other tracks whenever I listen to the album in the future.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 07, 2023, 14:34
13.5 hrs to go here in California! (leak be damned)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 14:55
For anyone who's already heard the album - how different is the Harvest Mix of TDTYF?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: BurnerMan54 on Sep 07, 2023, 14:57
Christ almighty, The Weight is an absolute old school banger

Edit: So is Magic Wand, holy shit. And I was sitting here reading impressions thinking they went soft.

Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 14:55
For anyone who's already heard the album - how different is the Harvest Mix of TDTYF?

Pretty different. Actually not what I expected at all. Way more percussion, less electronic
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 07, 2023, 15:41
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 14:55
For anyone who's already heard the album - how different is the Harvest Mix of TDTYF?
Feel free to read my comments on this and ALL the tracks under the spoiler tabs in my post 461 above.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Sep 07, 2023, 15:47
Quote from: BurnerMan54 on Sep 07, 2023, 14:57
Christ almighty, The Weight is an absolute old school banger Edit: So is Magic Wand, holy shit. And I was sitting here reading impressions thinking they went soft.
is is so true. I love how it brings back elements of where the Chem's started with their DJ career. Looking forward to hearing this properly upon official release versus the discord stream.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 07, 2023, 17:06
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 14:55
For anyone who's already heard the album - how different is the Harvest Mix of TDTYF?
Spoiler
Spoiler
Feels like a bunch of chems-loving friends sitting around the fireplace playing their instruments around the stems of original.

You'll be really surprised
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 07, 2023, 17:15
As you may know we had an early bird listening party with our siblings on Piku Playground and tho I was sleepy as fck (chronic insomnia + excitement) so I couldn't focus as much as I'd love to it was a really worthy time, the new tracks are fantastic with my highlights as far being:
Goodbye, Magic Wand, The Weight & Dreaming.
The already released singles also get a nice treatment, you'll be really surprised with the Harvest mix + title track gains a lot in the context of outro!

There's a bit of No Geo, bit of DYOH-ish Big Beat, I think y'all love the record!

Now I'm waiting to give it a ton of relistens!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 07, 2023, 17:20
Dammnit reading all your opinions is so tempting but since I'm old-school-go-to-the-store-and-buy-a-CD I'll have to wait until I get out of the office tomorrow, find the CD somewhere and get home.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 07, 2023, 19:44
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 07, 2023, 17:20
Dammnit reading all your opinions is so tempting but since I'm old-school-go-to-the-store-and-buy-a-CD I'll have to wait until I get out of the office tomorrow, find the CD somewhere and get home.
That's also my kind of thing, but this time polish premiere got delayed by whole week, so yeah...
Meanwhile with No Geo I've got it day earlier.

BTW, doing an update, I can't stop listening to Goodbye!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 07, 2023, 20:13
I've just received the mail that shipment from the store begun. So no legal listening tomorrow for me, maybe mid-next week.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 07, 2023, 20:23
Chems released the album early thru their Bandcamp

Note: Link deleted due to scam profile
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 20:41
My god. "The Weight" has one of the sweetest basslines I've heard from the brothers! Takes me straight back to DYOH era, right enough.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Explud on Sep 07, 2023, 20:48
It's just me or...

Spoiler
Last 7 seconds of No Reason
is Base 6?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: BurnerMan54 on Sep 07, 2023, 20:50
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 20:41
My god. "The Weight" has one of the sweetest basslines I've heard from the brothers! Takes me straight back to DYOH era, right enough.

Yup, it's like a modern DYOH track. Honestly probably my favorite track on the album so far.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 07, 2023, 21:42
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 07, 2023, 20:41
My god. "The Weight" has one of the sweetest basslines I've heard from the brothers! Takes me straight back to DYOH era, right enough.
Yup! 
And I get some TFOTL era Prodigy and Massive Attack vibes from the Magic Wand's instrumental
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Sep 08, 2023, 01:19
The Darkness That You Fear (Harvest Mix) is their own remix isn't it - it's not by an artist called Harvest?

Sorry for stupid question.  ???

Either way I like it!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 08, 2023, 05:31
initiate launch sequence...

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 05:34
Quote from: Ford on Sep 08, 2023, 01:19
The Darkness That You Fear (Harvest Mix) is their own remix isn't it - it's not by an artist called Harvest?

Sorry for stupid question.  ???

Either way I like it!
It would be weird to put a remix by somebody else on a studio album, so I'm pretty sure it's an alternative mix/remix made by T&E
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 08, 2023, 05:40
Daaaaamn! Just had the first listen... and it's past my bedtime. Lots of feelings here!! So many beautiful textures and sounds that I know will unfold with each new listen. It's a journey. The Weight, oh my god! I Feel Like I'm Dreaming... It's going to take a minute (when I'm not so sleeeepyzzzzz) to get my head around this!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ak_30 on Sep 08, 2023, 06:16
I think this album is one of their best works; It's almost as good as Surrender at least.
"Magic Wand" and "The Weight" are my favorites so far.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 08, 2023, 06:34
First impressions

The album is in 3 parts

1/3 is all club, all dance, great flow (similar to the opening flow of NG!). Definitely connects! Great start to a new album.

2/3 The Chems dip and double dip some influences from DYOH and EPD but pull out amazing throwback sounds that are fresh, groovy, and with some sample based kicks!

3/3. Back to psych! We've been there before and imo it's a mixed bag for me for this part of the album.

On to the 2nd listen, and third!




Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 07:16
Quote from: neorev on Sep 07, 2023, 20:23
Chems released the album early thru their Bandcamp

https://thechemicalbrothers.bandcamp.com/album/for-that-beautiful-feeling

Did they have removed this? Link gets me nowhere and searching on the app says theres no Chems on Bandcamp (except that Charlatans vs Chems EP)



Oh, and shipping isn't going on, it's just "Ready to Ship". So whatever company is doing the shiping hasn't even picket it up.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 08, 2023, 08:15
According to Apple Music all tracks in FTBF album are recorded in Dolby Atmos®
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 08:32
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 07:16
Did they have removed this? Link gets me nowhere and searching on the app says theres no Chems on Bandcamp (except that Charlatans vs Chems EP)



Doesn't work for me either. Let's hope it's just some error, Bandcamp is my favourite place to buy digital music.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 08, 2023, 08:45
The second listen, from start to finish with headphones was better. Still it will remain one of my least favourites of their albums.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 08, 2023, 08:55
Quote from: Ben_j on Sep 08, 2023, 08:45
Still it will remain one of my least favourites of their albums.

you gotta be shitting me.

I'm sorry, but this is up there with the pantheon of some of their greats. Without a doubt, better than, 'No Geography'.

I'll admit, I was cold towards "No Reason", and "Live Again", but this album really comes together!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bouh on Sep 08, 2023, 10:00
Quote from: Ben_j on Sep 08, 2023, 08:45
The second listen, from start to finish with headphones was better. Still it will remain one of my least favourites of their albums.

I am definitely on Ben_J's sides here.

I am having a hard time considering this album as a whole soundwise. It feels to me more like a 'collection' of different projects they've been working on for the past fews years put into a new LP.

Some great tracks though : Live Again, No reason, Dreaming, For that beautiful feeling.

Enjoy the new music :)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 08, 2023, 11:03
I've only listened to this album a couple times but imo the first 2/3 of so is about as great as anything they've ever produced. Everything up to and including "The Weight" is absolutely incredible. The back third of the album I'm a bit colder on, although "Feels Like I'm Dreaming" sure helps that end out.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 08, 2023, 12:23
I like how everyone has completely opposite opinions about the album, it proves there is no one truth and some stuff for everyone in there !
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 12:38
So any chance listening to "I want to know"?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 12:48
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 07:16
Did they have removed this? Link gets me nowhere and searching on the app says theres no Chems on Bandcamp (except that Charlatans vs Chems EP)

Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 08:32
Doesn't work for me either. Let's hope it's just some error, Bandcamp is my favourite place to buy digital music.

Woah! I was surprised the Chems were on Bandcamp when it was mentioned before. Go back to the source page on Bandcamp and you get this (https://thechemicalbrothers.bandcamp.com/) thechemicalbrothers based in... Houston, Texas (!).

I'm gonna suggest that someone did something very naughty here. They pretended to be the Chems and whacked the Chems music up on Bandcamp for some quick $$$ !
This would explain why, once the extended mix of Skipping Like A Stone got withdrawn from Beatport & BeatSource, it remained up on that Bandcamp page. Until now.

It would also explain the "early release" yesterday. That wasn't a Chemical decision, was it? They put the leak up.  More quick $$$. Naughty Texan impersonators! 

PS this means that the Extended mix of Skipping is currently only legally available on the USB stick, right?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 12:50
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Sep 08, 2023, 06:34
First impressions

The album is in 3 parts

1/3 is all club, all dance, great flow (similar to the opening flow of NG!). Definitely connects! Great start to a new album.

2/3 The Chems dip and double dip some influences from DYOH and EPD but pull out amazing throwback sounds that are fresh, groovy, and with some sample based kicks!

3/3. Back to psych! We've been there before and imo it's a mixed bag for me for this part of the album.

On to the 2nd listen, and third!





Yeah. I think it flows well as an album, with its 'three-act structure'. Much better than the last two albums imo.

The first act (Intro through to Goodbye) kind of showcases their current sound. Goodbye bridges that sound into the second act (Fountains through to The Weight) which nicely harks back to their big beat roots. Then the final act (Skipping through to FTBF) is kind of an amalgamation of their more epic, hug-a-stranger tunes, with the added bosh of the first half of Surrender (the album), carried by Feels Like I Am Dreaming.

Speaking of which, the standout track for me, by quite some distance, is Feels Like I Am Dreaming. Pure Chemical magic. It wouldn't feel out of place on Come With Us or maybe even Surrender.  :music

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 13:06
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 12:38
So any chance listening to "I want to know"?
Back in the BITE days I remember some of us switched our iTunes country from our actual nation over to... Japan (little flags), so we could hear a 30 sec preview of Direct Buki.
I wonder if those with an Apple Music account can also switch to Japan? If so, is "I Want To Know" even there, or is it a CD-only track at the moment?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 13:27
It's heeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeee

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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 08, 2023, 13:35
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 13:27
It's heeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeee

PXL_20230908_125534733.jpg
Brother, I'd pay you to release a tutorial how to build these guys I need them in my life :) This is the best FTBF related pic I've seen so far! 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 08, 2023, 13:45
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 13:06
Back in the BITE days I remember some of us switched our iTunes country from our actual nation over to... Japan (little flags), so we could hear a 30 sec preview of Direct Buki.
I wonder if those with an Apple Music account can also switch to Japan? If so, is "I Want To Know" even there, or is it a CD-only track at the moment?
doesn't seem to be on apple music jp
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 13:56
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 13:27
It's heeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeee

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I love your robots 🤖🤖👍
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 08, 2023, 13:58
Quote from: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 12:50
Speaking of which, the standout track for me, by quite some distance, is Feels Like I Am Dreaming. Pure Chemical magic. It wouldn't feel out of place on Come With Us or maybe even Surrender.  :music


FLIAD Is one of my top 3 from the new album. I was fortunate to see it played live, so hearing it on the album for the first time was devastating.

My standout is definitely Magic Wand!

When I first heard the 'Ungh' in that track, it made me say to myself  'holy shit! ( cranks volume up)  this is serious!'
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 08, 2023, 14:04
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 13:27
It's heeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeee

PXL_20230908_125534733.jpg
Where did you get those robots from ? That's freaking sweet!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 14:10
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Sep 08, 2023, 13:58
FLIAD Is one of my top 3 from the new album. I was fortunate to see it played live, so hearing it on the album for the first time was devastating.

My standout is definitely Magic Wand!

When I first heard the 'Ungh' in that track, it made me say to myself  'holy shit! ( cranks volume up)  this is serious!'
Yeah I'm pretty sure I heard them play FLIAD when I saw them at Field Days in Vicky Park last year. I was quite, er, spangled by then, but it does ring a bell. Maybe that's why it gave me goosebumps when I first listened this morning  ;) :))
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 14:19
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 08, 2023, 13:35
Brother, I'd pay you to release a tutorial how to build these guys I need them in my life :) This is the best FTBF related pic I've seen so far!
I will, I just have to finally get around to creating the instructions. I won't charge for them, though :)



Quote from: inchemwetrust on Sep 08, 2023, 14:04
Where did you get those robots from ? That's freaking sweet!
I built them myself :)
Back in 2011, to celebrate going to my first Chems show, I built a Lego version of their stage: https://www.flickr.com/photos/brainbikerider/6029783558/in/album-72157627402418250/
And in 2019, an updated version with their new synth racks and George&Mildred: https://www.flickr.com/photos/brainbikerider/albums/72157711865404103
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 14:40
First impression: The Chems once again managed to create a solid banger album with their distinctive signature sound, without getting repetitive.
There are lots of surprises (especially the thumping middle part with Magic Wand/The Weight), even with many of the songs already released or known through bootlegs. I love how the outro of the final song and the intro loop into each other.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 08, 2023, 14:55
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 13:27
It's heeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeee

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dear LEGO release it as an official set!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ak_30 on Sep 08, 2023, 14:59
Is that the group SAULT who is contributing to the song "Magic Wand"? 
The voices sound familiar to my ears.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 15:08
Man, shopping for a CD these days has become a pretty depressing endeavour. The local record store I wanted to support only ordered one vinyl copy and no CD - because people are rarely buying those anymore (which didn't come as a surprise but still...)
I then went to our media store. Given its colorful artwork, I thought the album shouldn't be hard to make out among others, in fact, should be shining like a beacon because it's so unique. But, har har, the physical media shelves have been so heavily reduced in size and condensed to generic labels, I just couldn't find it, walking round and round the shelves again. The LP section didn't have it either. Eventually I had to ask the staff whether they had any copy. He then walked me to a meager shelf called "clubsound samplers". WTF! And finally, there they were - all two of 'em!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 08, 2023, 15:09
Quote from: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 15:08
Man, shopping for a CD these days has become a pretty depressing endeavour. The local record store I wanted to support only ordered one vinyl copy and no CD - because people are rarely buying those anymore (which didn't come as a surprise but still...)
I then went to our media store. Given it's colorful artwork, I thought the album shouldn't be hard to make out among others, in fact, should be shining like beacon because it's so unique. But, har har, the physical media shelves have been heavily reduced in size and condensed to generic lables, I just couldn't find it, walking round and round the shelves again. The LP section didn't have it either. Eventually I had to ask the staff whether they had any copy. He then walked me to a meager shelve called "clubsound samplers". WTF! And finally, there they were - all two of 'em!
this reeks of MediaMarkt 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Sep 08, 2023, 15:12
Is it just me or is this at least a 25% hiphop album. Love it 🤩
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 15:14
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 08, 2023, 15:09
this reeks of MediaMarkt
;D
Abso-effing-lutely. For That  Bad (customer) Feeling!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 15:18
Quote from: Ak_30 on Sep 08, 2023, 14:59
Is that the group SAULT who is contributing to the song "Magic Wand"?
The voices sound familiar to my ears.
Not Sault (unless the vocal has been re-recorded). The answer to your question can be found here (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,2774.msg33449.html#msg33449) - the second embedded video in the post. Jump to about 30 seconds into the French Coffey track.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 15:20
Quote from: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 13:56
I love your robots 🤖🤖👍
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Mildred-arm approved?! :D Love the tatoo!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 15:29
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 08, 2023, 15:09
this reeks of MediaMarkt
Quote from: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 15:14
;D
Abso-effing-lutely. For That  Bad (customer) Feeling!
Haha, I went to Mediamarkt as well. 
 It is the most reliable store to get Chems CDs on release day (I even found the deluxe CD version of the Surrender anniversary edition back then. The only time it let me down was for the anniversary edition of DYOH).
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 08, 2023, 15:44
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 08, 2023, 15:09
this reeks of MediaMarkt 
MM was my place to go when buying some record in person up until they suddenly decided to completely get rid of the CD's.
I was shocked as they had a massive (as for this kind of shop) CD section, especially the one in the city centre.
But even my local, smaller one had quite impressive ammount of CD's in great prices, literally bought new, sealed copy of DYOH for 20zł (approx 4 euro!)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 15:47
Quote from: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 15:20
Mildred-arm approved?! :D Love the tatoo!
Cheers! My wife has George on her arm too. We both got George & Mildred's personal approval ;) 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 15:57
Quote from: hubie on Sep 08, 2023, 15:47
Cheers! My wife has George on her arm too. We both got George & Mildred's personal approval ;)
Oh that's awesome!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 16:20
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 12:48
I'm gonna suggest that someone did something very naughty here. They pretended to be the Chems and whacked the Chems music up on Bandcamp for some quick $$$ !
This would explain why, once the extended mix of Skipping Like A Stone got withdrawn from Beatport & BeatSource, it remained up on that Bandcamp page. Until now.
Wow, that would be wild. I bought may tracks there, since the lossless B-Sides and standalone tracks aren't exactly easy to find.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: M_O_N_O on Sep 08, 2023, 17:21
Goodbye. What a track :luv
It feels like this could be the best Chems album in a LONG time.
Too bad my order from the UK store only shipped yesterday and won't arrive before mid/end next week ::shake
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: actionjackson780 on Sep 08, 2023, 18:10
On my third listen today and still forming opinions. First thoughts, in no particular order, are:

- "Feels Like I Am Dreaming" is an absolute banger. It works as well in its place on the album as in the live set. I'm glad they gave it nearly 7 minutes to really breathe
- "Fountains" and "Magic Wand" need more time to grow on me; they are a bit of a low point at the moment
- "The Weight"... holy f! So good and so heavy (pun intended)
- Kind of wish "Intro" was the title track and fleshed out more, and "FTBF" proper was extended as a kind of reprise? Unsure about this, I could take about 4 minutes more of both haha
- I wish every song was longer
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 08, 2023, 18:17
after my usual self-imposed pre-album chemical-deprivation..holy shit. this album is a banger. everything makes so much sense now that it all flows together.

and my goodness, does it flow together. feels like live transitions from 20+ years ago.

off the top of my head..

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 18:46
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 12:38
So any chance listening to "I want to know"?
I'll know this evening. Surprisingly the album was delivered to my house today... all the way from Japan... they pre-sent it so it would reach on release day.

I'm at the office now and can't wait to get out of here to listen to it all.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Sep 08, 2023, 18:54
A really nice interview
https://variety.com/2023/music/features/chemical-brothers-tom-rowlands-ed-simons-for-that-beautiful-feeling-1235711215/ (https://variety.com/2023/music/features/chemical-brothers-tom-rowlands-ed-simons-for-that-beautiful-feeling-1235711215/)

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Biff on Sep 08, 2023, 19:21
Biff's Micro Mini Album Observations/Review:

Spoiler
Intro: Since we have heard the ending track of this album, my immediate thoughts were: THIS ALBUM IS A DONUT! Its end starts it back to the beginning with the same vocals. It's a circular album, not unlike J. Dilla's "Donuts"

Live Again: We all know and love. I'm still missing the live/extended version with the heavy bass at the beginning, but I begrudgingly agree that it's a good call not to have it on the album for Live Again to fade in.

No Reason: Also known and loved. By the end of this track I was experiencing the same confusion I felt when Come With Us came out (or as it was called in the early aughts, "leaked"): we had heard It Began in Afrika and Galaxy Bounce (thanks Tomb Raider soundtrack!) for months, so the segues on the album really threw me for a loop, and that's what happened here. I really dig/dug the bonus beats at the end.

Goodbye: The new "____ is godlike" IMHO. I was worried the album version might be tamer, but it still has that same raw energy. The vocals are beautiful and the main synth melody gives me goosebumps more than my office's air conditioning.

Fountains: Did we establish who this vocalist is? I'm bad at keeping up in the forum over the last few years, and so many insightful things have been found. It sounds like the same person that's been on many chems tracks over the years such as the vocal harmonies on WATN and Hanna's Theme. Makes me nostalgic for PTB B-sides and sounds like Tame Impala remixed by the Neptunes in the style of "Frontin'". The Nile Rogers-esq guitar and solos are my favorite parts.

Magic Wand: Great sample and extremely catchy love letter to their earlier work, especially the remixes. It's interesting to hear a modern homage to this with how production has changed, as there is a much greater stereo image on the drums.

The Weight: Found my new mantra I'm going to use. The "watch it now" sounds kind of like Sammy making a return, maybe didn't get eaten? This and Magic Wand feel like siblings. They both manage to capture the a little bit of the sound of their early remixes, but make something very exciting and new. I really enjoy how the song builds starting at 2:10 into a wall of psychedelic sound.

Skipping Like A Stone: Also known and loved, no new segues that made me feel like an alarmed cat. As I said in the posting for this track when it was released, even though the extended version has a lot of exciting stuff going on, for the album's flow the length works great. See below.

Darkness That You Fear: I just rambled in the DTYF topic why I think this version is an improvement, but forgot to complement the percussion! But I like everything about this version.

Galaxy Bounce: Wait... wut da fuq? Apparently Spotify is trolling me while I wait on my LP to arrive?

Feels Like I'm Dreaming: Amazing track, it's like Escape Velocity's younger sibling that got in more trouble. Hope it's one they keep in live rotation for a long time. Around 5:30 it almost sounds like it's going to segue into Skipping Like A Stone. No, wait, just checked it's the same choir but now played half a step higher. So I'm going to further push my Skipping-Like-A-Stone-extended-version-was-an-ending-track conspiracy.

For That Beautiful Feeling: I think I mentioned elsewhere that I love this track. The melody evolves beautifully in a way that makes this track very emotionally powerful. Bonus star for liberal use of phaser effects. The ending has a nice fade out with the vocal repeating. Hey, we've gone full circle.

Overall: Probably not surprising to say I love it, but this album deserves praise even without fandom bias. It feels overall different than what I might've guess would come after No Geography, but that's why the Chems have been prolific and not perishable. The album feels has a lot of nice contrast in each track and overall; it's heavy and light. Halo's vocals over Live Again nicely sum it up. There's weight but then it's skipping like a stone, living and dreaming, etc. etc. I think how the songs are structured is excellent, feeling unpredictable yet intuitive-something most electronic music suffers from.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 08, 2023, 19:24
damnit, 2 listens in. this thing is a rock album in disguise. the kind of pop music that just makes sense deep in my bones. it's like a beatles or pink floyd or david bowie or whoever record, wow
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 08, 2023, 19:32
Quote from: Biff on Sep 08, 2023, 19:21
Spoiler
Fountains: Did we establish who this vocalist is?

Overall: I think how the songs are structured is excellent, feeling unpredictable yet intuitive-something most electronic music suffers from.
Spoiler
Spoiler
Fountains: tom rowlands?

Overall: yeah i think this is exactly it. after my second listen and thinking about how it's an amalgamation of all the best pop records from a variety of genres, i checked out the wikipedia article. it has a quote from Damien Morris in a review for The Observer that nails it— "nonsense-free reaffirmation of the dance duo's greatest strength – making largely instrumental psychedelic house (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_house) and techno (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno) somehow sound like pop music"
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Biff on Sep 08, 2023, 19:35
I was wondering if it might be Tom or a session vocalist. At the time Further was released, I was under the impression he had just started doing vocals.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 19:48
It's either Tina Weymouth from Tom Tom Club or
it's Tom from Tom & Ed Club
(ok it's the latter, we established this somewhere on the forum I believe).

If we didn't know the title I think I would have nicknamed this "Tom's Tom Tom Club track". Though I kinda get the reference to Frontin' too.
And look! We've found someone who likes Fountains. Was bound to happen eventually.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 20:02
I don't know why we hide this behind spoiler tags?

Spoiler
The little leaflet mentions Tom Rowlands for the Fountains vocals, with backing by Halo Maud
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Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Biff on Sep 08, 2023, 20:07
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 20:02
I don't know why we hide this behind spoiler tags?

Spoiler
The little leaflet mentions Tom Rowlands for the Fountains vocals, with backing by Halo Maud
PXL_20230908_195652537.jpg


Spoiler
Just got my LP
Spoiler
and saw that too
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 08, 2023, 20:09
Quote from: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 18:46
I'll know this evening. Surprisingly the album was delivered to my house today... all the way from Japan... they pre-sent it so it would reach on release day.

I'm at the office now and can't wait to get out of here to listen to it all.
Would be really thankful if you'll put the audio on google drive, or something so we could listen to it!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 08, 2023, 20:37
apparently i need to get me my LP so i can pore over the notes in the sleeve
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 20:55
Ok, the personal listening journey has commenced.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Sep 08, 2023, 21:08
Quote from: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 18:46
I'll know this evening. Surprisingly the album was delivered to my house today... all the way from Japan... they pre-sent it so it would reach on release day.

I'm at the office now and can't wait to get out of here to listen to it all.
Oh nicely done Japan 🙏. Let us know how the packaging looks like. I waited out on buying the cd 😁
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 21:10
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 20:02
I don't know why we hide this behind spoiler tags?
Because one [me] was stupid enough to think that preordering the album from the officialy webstore would allow me to listen to the record on release day - and i don't want to get spoiled with all of you brothers, sisters & siblings opinions of the tunes until i have listen to them by myself.



Talking about preordering: my package has left the store less than 12h ago... How can the official shop be that slow while others receive their parcel all the way from japan on release day?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Sep 08, 2023, 21:27
Quote from: Joslyn on Sep 08, 2023, 15:12
Is it just me or is this at least a 25% hiphop album. Love it 🤩
Let me quote myself to elaborate on this. After hearing the well known first 2 (3 counting the intro) tracks I did not expect this album to sound... like this.
OK, Feels like I'm dreaming and Goodbye are pretty familiar
Spoiler
after both were partely played at the liveshow
but what bangers. Double sided EBW release please.
But the triple
Spoiler
Fountains, Magic wand and the Weight
took be back to the EPD era. It gave me a Justin Warfield vibe. Very cool and unexpected. I recommend listening to this album on headphones for the best experience.

It is not (yet) on the same level as No Geography as it lacks overall coherent and a great album ender. And it's a bit short.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 08, 2023, 21:53
Why the heck did they make the title track so short? I don't need the vocal sample repeated umpteen times at the end like in the Universe Sent Me, I want more of that track's soundscape being explored. ::yell This is criminal - just like not playing said Universe Sent Me live!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 22:39
Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 08, 2023, 20:09
Would be really thankful if you'll put the audio on google drive, or something so we could listen to it!
Will see what I can do. Probs will still be a few hours until I get home. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 08, 2023, 22:55
Quote from: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 22:39
Will see what I can do. Probs will still be a few hours until I get home.
No prob, it would be a huge help for the non-japan community members
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 23:23
Quote from: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 22:39
Will see what I can do. Probs will still be a few hours until I get home.
And please tell if "I Want To Know" or "All Of A Sudden" comes first in tracklist order. Universal Music is saying IWTK but CDJapan is saying the other way
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Metta on Sep 09, 2023, 03:43
Listened to it over and over again at work until lunch, immediately loved it. I was a little surprised how emotional it made me (Goodbye hit real good).

Feel Like I Am Dreaming is probably my favourite so far and such a banger, I was psyched for it after hearing it live.

We decided to go camping this weekend and playing it (reasonably) loudly in the woods is feeling kinda perfect.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 04:13
Quote from: mesamm99 on Sep 08, 2023, 22:39
Will see what I can do. Probs will still be a few hours until I get home.
You rock! Perhaps I can return the favor. I sadly couldn't get a copy of the Japan CD. I kept checking Amazon Japan since the announcement. Even learning the Japanese writing so I could enter it in the search. I also tried its catalog number. Nothing would come up. I then checked it on release day and finally a listing showed up, but says it's unavailable. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 09, 2023, 04:17
Billboard Interview (https://www.billboard.com/music/features/chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling-interview-1235409141/)

a few interesting things like:

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 04:27
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 09, 2023, 04:17
  • "glut of music made during the pandemic, they considered assembling a triple LP, or quadruple LP"
Let's hope they release more music they have leftover. More b-sides, please.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 04:30
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 08, 2023, 07:16
Did they have removed this? Link gets me nowhere and searching on the app says theres no Chems on Bandcamp (except that Charlatans vs Chems EP)



Oh, and shipping isn't going on, it's just "Ready to Ship". So whatever company is doing the shiping hasn't even picket it up.
Yeah, not sure what happened. The whole Bandcamp page was pulled. I wonder if it was not actually then. But it had loads of their releases and new stuff. No clue what happened. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 09, 2023, 04:43
Quote from: Metta on Sep 09, 2023, 03:43
Listened to it over and over again at work until lunch, immediately loved it. I was a little surprised how emotional it made me (Goodbye hit real good).

Feel Like I Am Dreaming is probably my favourite so far and such a banger, I was psyched for it after hearing it live.

We decided to go camping this weekend and playing it (reasonably) loudly in the woods is feeling kinda perfect.

This resonates. I too felt surprised at 'all the feels' I was feeling, listening to this through out today.

And how cool it will be to hear this out in the wide open! Highly recommend it!! I did that with We Are The Night years ago shortly after it was released, camping under the stars in Joshua Tree. Beautiful memory :) Hope the listen in the great outdoors is a fabulous time for you!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 09, 2023, 05:31
Quote from: Joslyn on Sep 08, 2023, 21:27
 And it's a bit short.
Quote from: actionjackson780 on Sep 08, 2023, 18:10
- I wish every song was longer

This! A lot of tracks can be fleshed out or breathe a little bit more. Once I get into the moment, the track is already over. 

My review will touch on this!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: mesamm99 on Sep 09, 2023, 05:44
Quote from: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 04:13
You rock! Perhaps I can return the favor. I sadly couldn't get a copy of the Japan CD. I kept checking Amazon Japan since the announcement. Even learning the Japanese writing so I could enter it in the search. I also tried its catalog number. Nothing would come up. I then checked it on release day and finally a listing showed up, but says it's unavailable.
Ended up having a way busier evening than I planned. I've been listening to the album as time allows since 6am. Needed to do a bunch of yard stuff since we are hosting a housewarming / bday party for my son and I this weekend. Loved being motivated to keep going while listening to the album. I eventually give this album a proper review. All I can say so far is that I'm in love.

I've listened to "I Want To Know" once and wanted to let it just sit for the evening and come back to it tomorrow with a fresh set of ears. It comes after "All Of A Sudden". There is a lot of familiarity in the track in that it has elements of Surrender, but with a FTBF twist. I'll get it digital and find a way to put it out there.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 07:47
Reading that Billboard interview, if Chems still have loads of tracks from writing this album, they should drop an EP or two in the new year with some of the leftover tracks. Would be a shame if they just get thrown in the bin never to be heard. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 07:48
Honestly, I'm still waiting for Singles 03-23  :Cray
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 09:03
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 07:48
Honestly, I'm still waiting for Singles 03-23  :Cray
With plenty of "behind the couch" - tracks on disc 2. And a lot of the old Dust Brothers tunes. And the studio version of Snow/Surface.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 09:15
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 09:03
With plenty of "behind the couch" - tracks on disc 2. And a lot of the old Dust Brothers tunes. And the studio version of Snow/Surface.
Dust Up Beats from Wipeout 2097 and Her Jazz remastered, please 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 09, 2023, 09:33
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 08, 2023, 13:27
It's heeeeeeeeeeerrrreeeeeee

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Ed has put this pic on his Insta stories. Oh it's on the Chems stories too, but you gotta jump thrugh a lot of "stories".
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 09:55
Quote from: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 09:15
Dust Up Beats from Wipeout 2097
Nope, the full lenght version from the demo cassette
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 10:01
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 09:55
Nope, the full lenght version from the demo cassette
Samples will be difficult to clear I'm afraid. There's different vinyl pressings that have different versions of Dust Up Beats.





I prefer the second one
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 09, 2023, 14:02
I much prefer the first version of Dust Up Beats ^ that reversed part that starts around the 3min mark is pure bliss.

Hopefully we may get this and Dope Coil etc. for a "Exit Planet Dust" 30th Anniversary edition  :music if it's possible to remaster and clear the samples. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 14:04
Quote from: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 10:01
I prefer the second one
That is the version from the demo cassette (and only from there). The regular release of that version cuts out the first 47 seconds.


Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 09, 2023, 14:02
I much prefer the first version of Dust Up Beats  (...)

Hopefully we may get this

I like both, why not release both? But the second one should be, as i said, the version from the demo cassette.


Edit:
And to be a little WhiteNoise => the "first one" is in fact the second version, the version some called Wipeout-version was released earlyer (and that explains why it, in a longer version, was on the demo cassette)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 09, 2023, 15:01
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 14:04
That is the version from the demo cassette (and only from there). The regular release of that version cuts out the first 47 seconds.

I think you're close, but no cigar.
Yes, the full length was on the demo cassette, that's true (and Yes WhiteNoise did get the full length rip for us from that cassette). But I believe it was also on the tiny number of vinyl pressings of that version, too. The first 47 seconds were cut for the WipeOut game in particular. WipeOut was the easiest place to get a rip of that version (digital!) and therefore you think of it as the 'regular' version, but I believe the original vinyl and the cassette were both full length.

Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 14:04
I like both, why not release both? But the second one should be, as i said, the version from the demo cassette.
And/or original vinyl. Very few copies of that vinyl exist though, due to a fire at the warehouse.

EDIT: Joslyn has the rare "Wipeout" version on vinyl and confirms it's the same as the cassette. HERE. (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,309.msg3555.html#msg3555)

Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 14:04
Edit:
..the version some called Wipeout-version was released earlyer
True. The second video (WipeOut) in Neorev's post was the first version released.



Quote from: neorev on Sep 09, 2023, 10:01
Samples will be difficult to clear I'm afraid. There's different vinyl pressings that have different versions of Dust Up Beats.

Ha funny, weren't you the one who used to tweet @ the Chems and bang your drum here on the forum for these early releases, whilst others here were telling you: "it's unlikely". Now you've come around to the other side of the table.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 15:16
I have a copy of the version with the longer intro on vinyl! I should rip it some day 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 19:05
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 15:16
I have a copy of the version with the longer intro on vinyl! I should rip it some day

I looked into my calendar and it says that september 10th is 'some day'
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 19:28
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 09, 2023, 19:05
I looked into my calendar and it says that september 10th is 'some day'
If you insist  :P I did rip the WipEout version too and that one is on my YouTube channel already. I'll do my best to get it done tomorrow! 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 09, 2023, 20:03
I love how we've switched to the Dust Up Beats appreciation club  8)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: MadPooter on Sep 09, 2023, 20:37
The production on this album as a whole is... simply extraordinary.

Even if I don't love all of the tracks, and even if I really don't like the intro, it's a voyage.

From start to finish I feel like I'm off my head in a wonderful psychedelic meandering, rough-cut moments blended together with a divine trowel, and I can't help but feel wholly satisfied after a full listen-through.

The Weight. The middle centerpiece. It took me back. It made me think of the first time I listened to the Duke in college, and I wanted to get up and dance.

What's a Big Beat track again? Fuck yeah that's what that is.

How does it sound when a synth makes a soulful cry in the dead of night? Goodbye.

And I can only describe moments littered throughout, The Fountain and Feels Like I'm Dreaming for instance, as similar to being in a chemically-disheveled headspace, the tunnel taking twists and turns, finally coming back to a moment where you can raise your head up above the fog of subconscious raving to come back to this plane, allowing you to take a deep breath and compose yourself.

And the only thing you're able to say in those moments...

What fuckin' ride.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: satur8 on Sep 09, 2023, 22:32
I'm late to the party and want to write down some thoughts before I read any of yours. In short, I really enjoy the album and am highly impressed with the flow. I enjoy every single track and think the presentation has a fresh sound.

Typically I save a new album for an enhanced listen on my good headphones. For this one, I couldn't wait and listened to it though my car's speakers on the commute yesterday (and it had to compete with my A/C fan on high). So, I got the vibe but didn't get to experience real presentation until today. I've enjoyed it from the first listen, but I admit, it hit a little harder today with my full focus. Well, actually 3 focused listens in a row, and a 4th as I type. LOL

My early favorites are Goodbye, Fountains, Feels Like I Am Dreaming, and of course, Live Again. I don't think that one will get stale for me. There is not a bad track on here and again, the flow of the album is great. I've expressed my thoughts on the Harvest Mix of 'Darkness...' on its own thread, but will reiterate, that specific version is perfect on this album. And I really liked Skipping Like A Stone as a single, but somehow I now get more excited hearing with the rest. I also love how the first and last track not only provide bookends, but how they work so well if the album is set to repeat.

These are all initial thoughts and I'm sure I will feel more nuanced opinions with continued listens. However, I have a funny story about Fountains, which is my favorite of the tracks I had not heard before. This morning I was driving my son somewhere and that track came on when I started the car. He said, "Well THIS is new!" and asked if it was the Chemical Brothers. He is not a fan that would listen on his own, and he didn't know they had a new album, but he is very familiar and has his favorites. And like me, it really got his attention. 

Here's one final thought that I also wrote elsewhere. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give us a 9 minute dub combining the outro beats for No Reason and the intro to Goodbye into an EBW!!!

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 09, 2023, 22:38
I was very excited for this album, but I think a little subconsciously apprehensive/weary about having any high expectations.

I'm honestly blown away. The initial listen through did present me with some 'hmmm, really?' moments - just a few things that didn't hit like I thought they would (or like I felt they should), but I think I'm just old and struggle with change. I think it also comes with the territory of holding the Chems to such a high standard and treating the experience so very differently. With the lack of a physical copy, I almost held back from listening until Monday - but I got over that weird part of my brain too. So the isolated, eyes closed listen through was an almost stressful experience - one that all melted away when Dreaming came on. To echo some of the emotional reactions of Whirly and Metta, I felt so much of my decades long infatuation with Tom & Ed's music bubbling to the surface, resulting in some soggy eyeballs and a smile that I couldn't get rid of.

I've listened through a good handful of times now and everything just keeps getting better. The biggest thing for me with this album, is how fucking fun it is. Start to finish, it's just a good bloody time.

Intro is still growing on me. I love segues though, so just treating it as an overture for Live Again is great.

Speaking of which, this is my favourite single from the album for sure (assuming Dreaming doesn't get a proper release). I really enjoyed it in isolation, but it's a fantastic foundation for the rest of the album and I hear more and more little chemical noises and call backs to previous albums and sounds with every listen.

No Reason feels a TAD long in the context of the album, given that, as others have said, some of the other tracks feel like they could go on a little longer. Still, it's a banger and, like Spider-Man pulling two halves of a collapsing ferry together, it's a great way to move into:

Goodbye. I was NOT blown away on first listen. But. It's maybe round 6 now and like everything, it's been getting bigger and better with each listen. Sasha should use this in his next Involver mix. The texture of that main synth melody is just so disgustingly tasty. Glutinous.

I LOVE Fountains! The Neptunes comparison was dead on for me! Was going to make the same comment. Tom's singing, since he started, kind of feels like a must on an album now. Let Us Build A City Fountains.

The sample in Magic Wand is something I'm still adjusting to. Something about it makes me question whether they've ever been good with vocal samples - which is obviously a batshit crazy thing to think. It's just the melodic smooshing of everything that I'm still adjusting to. Still - Big Beat is right, and with everything on this album, there's so much to unpack and connect to old albums/tracks.

The Weight. Funk Bass Chemicals: Best Chemicals. I'll happily take the blame for continuing to talk about how Come With Us is their best album.

I'd like to formally take back my criticisms about the lyrics of Skipping Like A Stone. They're fine, and they're positive and quite lovely. But I think this might still be my least favourite part of the album. For now at least.
I do still love that ending. Halo Maud is essentially to this song working, for me.

TDTYF. Mentioned this on the track topic, but I really wish they didn't give it a mix name. It's a great version though, if a little short. But, like the intro, it's simply an appetizer for...

THE • BEST • SLAB • OF • CHEMICAL • MAGIC • IN • THE • LAST • 10 • YEARS.
I loved it live, was nervous how it would translate into studio form, but it's SO. FUCKING. GOOD.
Who knew there was an untapped sweet spot between Escape Velocity and Out of Control.

The outro (as it maybe should have been called?) is lovely. Halo's vocals lend themselves really well to this whole adventure and the melodies in this one are great. My only nitpick, is that Dreaming ends with a looped vocal, just like Hi Kevin I Cave In, and I don't think it needs to do it again with the end of the album - though I do like Biff's donut take on this!

Super interested to see everyone's rankings in a couple of weeks time.

Well done Tom & Ed, and thank you.
#10 is a big success in my books.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 09, 2023, 23:32
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 09, 2023, 22:38
Goodbye. I was NOT blown away on first listen.

Looking forward for this one to grow on me. Something isn't connecting and I feel bad admitting this because I know the legend of this track started right here on the forum.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 10, 2023, 01:31
When it comes to intro, just play it right after the last track, it creates some kind of loophole. 

Also, for those with the vinyl versions: Is there any funny running grove message/text like on the previous records? Is there any funny gimmick like the Surrender's locked groove repeating that "uhm, uhm, uhm" at the end of Dream On?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 10, 2023, 04:24
I must say, almost every track on the album feels like it could be utilized in their live show.

Magic Wand, The Weight, and The Darkness That You Fear (Harvest Mix), probably album only tracks.

Fountains could be deconstructed into some type of chopped up instrumental track. We already know the extended mix of Skipping Like a Stone has legs, and the intro/title track could be the new show prelude similar to the use of No Path to Follow, via the 'We Are the Night" tour.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: hstn on Sep 10, 2023, 06:32
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 10, 2023, 04:24
I must say, almost every track on the album feels like it could be utilized in their live show.

Magic Wand, The Weight, and The Darkness That You Fear (Harvest Mix), probably album only tracks.

Fountains could be deconstructed into some type of chopped up instrumental track. We already know the extended mix of Skipping Like a Stone has legs, and the intro/title track could be the new show prelude similar to the use of No Path to Follow, via the 'We Are the Night" tour.
I would absolutely love to see another WATN Tour style reset of the show with the release of the new album, especially making room for more of the new songs beyond the 4 we already have in the set

Or even reconstructions that allow for bits and pieces of the new songs to appear, it really feels like a revitalization at this point
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 10, 2023, 12:56
this album is so ripe for 20-minute secret psychedelic mixes of nice, long, slow synth build-ups and transformations
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Sep 10, 2023, 16:22
Quote from: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 10, 2023, 12:56
this album is so ripe for 20-minute secret psychedelic mixes of nice, long, slow synth build-ups and transformations
45 min version of "Dreaming" or gtfo
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 10, 2023, 18:48
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 19:28
If you insist  :P I did rip the WipEout version too and that one is on my YouTube channel already. I'll do my best to get it done tomorrow!
orrrrr the day after, met up with an old friend today  ::krazy
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ILoveChemsSinceEPD on Sep 10, 2023, 20:13
So this is my first post here on this forum.
Born in 1976 I was in my Twenties when Big Beat became a thing.
I bought Exit Planet Dust the summer after The Prodigy released Music for the jilted generation in 1994. 

What I try to say: Some things stay forever some fade away.

I parted with The Prodigy after Fat Of The Land actually...

The Chemical Brothers always were there.. in my life... sometimes right in front of me... literally... sometimes like a good old friend who you share some news with.

Every record since EPD had great moments.

Further was the last record which sent me on a musical journey.

This new album does it again.

For that beautiful Feeling has this psychedelic soulful eclectic touch  . All the reasons I got in love with this Band.

With 47 I feel blessed to still be able to enjoy this ride.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 11, 2023, 17:27
This album is life, and I'm still hanging on to every listen. It is a heavy album - it is a process and I did not expect to have this hit in literally all the feels. It's overwhelming. Like how life is sometimes. It all is still coming into its own for me and I'm still trying to make sense with each listen, hoping I don't wear it out the novelty or lose, literally - that beautiful feeling - when I listen to it.  

There is absolutely no doubt in the exquisite production, and the driving force of life experience that's behind the wheel of For That Beautiful Feeling. It stirs an overwhelming cauldron of feelings that has me tumbling through storm clouds and fiery sunsets in my mind's eye. Each listen brings new delights - every song heaving and sighing and scurrying with life.  From the abruptly jarring and confusing static of Intro giving way to the heart beat of Live Again... to the bittersweet For That Beautiful Feeling - which feels like a swirling, swelling culmination of everything you've just heard heard and felt in-between, throughout the journey. The voice at the end, that beautiful feeling, surrendering to the void. That feeling doesn't have to end. Just loop it, and you get to Live (it) Again. 

It's fucking amazing. 

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: BurnerMan54 on Sep 11, 2023, 23:57
Hideo Kojima is also a fan of the album

https://x.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/1701160217692758462?s=20 (https://x.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/1701160217692758462?s=20)

Screenshot 2023-09-12 at 01-55-42 小島秀夫 auf X.png (https://x.com/Kojima_Hideo/status/1701160217692758462?s=20)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: satur8 on Sep 12, 2023, 00:11
Quote from: ILoveChemsSinceEPD on Sep 10, 2023, 20:13
Further was the last record which sent me on a musical journey.
I've enjoyed all of their work in-between, but yeah, I haven't loved a release from start to finish like this since Further hit us. And like Further, the flow from track to track is perfect.

I'll say now what I said then...someone needs to convince Tom to do several vocal tracks on every album.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 12, 2023, 00:30
Quote from: BurnerMan54 on Sep 11, 2023, 23:57
Hideo Kojima is also a fan of the album
We should ask him to show us I Want To Know!  :D

Speaking of, it seems it was played on this Japanese radio station: https://www.crossfm.co.jp/msearch/w_index.php?mode=0&page=0Screenshot 2023-09-11 204513.png
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GlosBlue on Sep 12, 2023, 09:33
Love the music but not a massive fan of the artwork. Feels a bit minimum effort given it's the tenth one?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 12, 2023, 09:50
Quote from: GlosBlue on Sep 12, 2023, 09:33
but not a massive fan of the artwork. Feels a bit minimum effort given it's the tenth one?
Hi and welcome. I initially thought so, too, when it was first revealed. But to their credit, the artwork is mostly not specifically made for the album but rather taken from a known artist, Nicholas Krushenick (https://www.nicholaskrushenick.com/). This album contains works from the mid '60s and '70s. Member Bosco had found out about it and dug out some source material from this new album's era: (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3311.0.html)
Given the vast body of his work, I'd argue there would have been some other prints that I'd have liked a bit more personally (f.i. I don't like the color palette for this one (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2259)). But I think it has grown on me. More than the album itself, unfortunately..
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GlosBlue on Sep 12, 2023, 10:09
Quote from: Csar on Sep 12, 2023, 09:50
Hi and welcome. I initially thought so, too, when it was first revealed. But to their credit, the artwork is mostly not specifically made for the album but rather taken from a known artist, Nicholas Krushenick (https://www.nicholaskrushenick.com/). This album contains works from the mid '60s and '70s. Member Bosco had found out about it and dug out some source material from this new album's era: (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,3311.0.html)
Given the vast body of his work, I'd argue there would have been some other prints that I'd have liked a bit more personally (f.i. I don't like the color palette for this one (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2259)). But I think it has grown on me. More than the album itself, unfortunately..
Thank you! I think it's just that I really like most of the other albums artwork and this didn't really hit me the same. I wouldn't put it on the wall.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 12, 2023, 10:14
Quote from: Csar on Sep 12, 2023, 09:50
But I think it has grown on me. More than the album itself, unfortunately..
Are you not giving the album 5 stars then?



Quote from: GlosBlue on Sep 12, 2023, 10:09
Thank you! I think it's just that I really like most of the other albums artwork and this didn't really hit me the same. I wouldn't put it on the wall.

Ironically, lots of galleries have put Nicholas Krushenick's stuff on the wall. Probably more so than 'regular' Chems artwork designer Kate Gibb.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 12, 2023, 10:33
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 12, 2023, 10:14
Are you not giving the album 5 stars then?
Always depends on the scale used ;)

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 12, 2023, 10:14
Ironically, lots of galleries have put Nicholas Krushenick's stuff on the wall. Probably more so than 'regular' Chems artwork designer Kate Gibb.
Which would be a shame in my book. No, honestly, lots of these prints aren't quite my cup of tea, BUT, I have to give credit where credit is due: His style was so ahead of its time, it's really mind blowing! The first time I saw that Live Again cover, I thought it was much much more contemporary art than it turned out to be. Imagine my surprise when Bosco unearthed the artist and the time period in which lots of these were created. So Kudos to the late Mr. Krushenick!

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 12, 2023, 13:03
Seems like my order is still somewhere in the UK. Damn.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Sep 12, 2023, 15:45
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 12, 2023, 13:03
Seems like my order is still somewhere in the UK. Damn.
Same as me... The tracking page still says "Ready to Ship"
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 12, 2023, 17:30
Quote from: nekoland on Sep 12, 2023, 15:45
Same as me... The tracking page still says "Ready to Ship"

likewise, damn brexit lol
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Joslyn on Sep 12, 2023, 20:03
Unboxing of Japan release 
https://youtu.be/JH1zGSwhnWc?si=z6EdDgv3gEUoZqqa
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Sep 13, 2023, 03:46
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 08, 2023, 12:48
This would explain why, once the extended mix of Skipping Like A Stone got withdrawn from Beatport & BeatSource, it remained up on that Bandcamp page. Until now.

So what's the story with the extended mix of Skipping Like a Stone? Was it officially released on Beatport and Beatsource? I assume that's where the nefarious Bandcamp page sourced the file - but why has it been removed from the official pages? Is it to drive sales of the USB?

If it wasn't sanctioned to be uploaded to Beatport and Beatsource (hence the swift removal) how did it get out and up there in the first place?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: neorev on Sep 13, 2023, 04:17
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 12, 2023, 10:14
Are you not giving the album 5 stars then?



Ironically, lots of galleries have put Nicholas Krushenick's stuff on the wall. Probably more so than 'regular' Chems artwork designer Kate Gibb.
Wow, that's a sad thought. Kate's work is stellar.

I see Kate's art and I feel... :luv
I see Krushenick's and I feel... ???  
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 13, 2023, 16:34
So while the tracking page still says my order it's somewhere in the UK, it just arrived.
And if you don't have enough reasons that brexit was one of the stupiest ideas here's one more: customs... Yes, you pay customs when ordereing, but these where only the british customs. When the delivery person stands at my door they want the some more money - for german or EU customs + they want money for paying my customs in advanced. So it's additional 14,82€ for german/eu customs and 6€ for the parcel service for paying in advanced (which they called "Auslagepauschale" and there is no translation for this, that word only exist in german language).


Fun fact: I also ordered the No Reason vinyl and it has a huge sticker on it saying "made in germany". So i'm paying customs for it beeing delivered from germany to britain and back to germany.
Fun fact #2: Looking through the customs declaration it's going to be more strange because it says that the country of origin of goods is for all three pieces (for that beautiful feeling vinyl and cd, no reason vinyl) czech republic.

Edit: The FTBF-vinyl also has the made in germany sticker
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 13, 2023, 17:06
Yup, I got to learn about Auslagenpauschale last year when I ordered a CD from Norway. Not only was the shipment more expensive than the item itself, I, like you, was taken by surprise as well that I had to pay these €6 extra at my doorstep (€11 CD + €13 shipment + €6 annoyance fee).
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 13, 2023, 18:01
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 13, 2023, 16:34
So while the tracking page still says my order it's somewhere in the UK, it just arrived.


Have you waited until now to listen to the album? Even though the whole thing is streamable from the front page of this forum?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 13, 2023, 18:10
Listen to the soundcloud uploads since monday
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 13, 2023, 20:55
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 13, 2023, 18:01
Have you waited until now to listen to the album? Even though the whole thing is streamable from the front page of this forum?
I wouldn't want my first listen to be a compressed Soundcloud stream, personally.

I haven't listened to it from there, but I'm assuming it doesn't play back to back with 0 gaps, right? It has to load the next track. That would be a big bummer for this particular album journey.

---

I'm sorry to hear about all that annoying extra crap, Pum. I guess with the weird state that physical copies are in these days, it's probably quite difficult to plan in the same way that they used to. That said, shipping all the copies that were manufactured in CZ/DE to the UK - an island - to then have them shipped back to mainland Europe, seems pretty silly.

I'm still waiting for an email/phone call from my local store to say they have my order in. Crossing my fingers for Friday but not holding my breath at this point.

I see the white vinyl is gone from the store. Did anyone get a copy of that?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 13, 2023, 21:23
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 13, 2023, 20:55
I haven't listened to it from there, but I'm assuming it doesn't play back to back with 0 gaps, right?

Yes, it has gaps, but i couldn't resist.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 13, 2023, 21:33
I also noticed that on my mobile Soundcloud would seem to add nasty glitch sounds which don't appear on desktop.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Sep 13, 2023, 22:12
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 13, 2023, 20:55
I see the white vinyl is gone from the store. Did anyone get a copy of that?


I got a copy of the white vinyl. I also ordered the 3LP, CD and cassette bundle for £73, but now you can get the 3LP for £40 (down from £60), CD for £6 (down from £12) and the cassette for £7 (down from £11). Heck, I'd rather even have the regular 2LP for £25 (down from £40) and miss out on the white vinyl if I could have got the rest at these prices!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 13, 2023, 22:15
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 13, 2023, 20:55
I wouldn't want my first listen to be a compressed Soundcloud stream, personally.

I haven't listened to it from there, but I'm assuming it doesn't play back to back with 0 gaps, right? It has to load the next track. That would be a big bummer for this particular album journey.

That's basically what we got for the Listening Party at Rough Trade East last Wednesday. They were clearly playing files, and all the transitions had big gaps in them.
Meanwhile we stood there looking at a sealed display copy of the vinyl*...

*this would also have some gaps of course, because the music is spread over 4 or 6 sides of plastic.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 14, 2023, 03:11
Just got an update that my package is already checked up for customs in warsaw, so it can arrive here tommorow if I'm lucky enough! 

That's quite fast, ngl
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 14, 2023, 11:24
Still no word on my 'supposed' preorder. Gonna cancel that but just need the CD. I ordered one on Walmart and then 2 days later it got delayed. Now it's out of stock. I tried Amazon but that got delayed too.

Edit: Amazon finally got a shipping date....Oct 1!!! Lol!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: nekoland on Sep 14, 2023, 15:32
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 14, 2023, 18:13
I'm not feeling this one (I Want To Know), for me it's the weakest Chemical release in a loooooong time. The melody just kind of simmers along without going anywhere interesting.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 14, 2023, 18:41
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Sep 14, 2023, 11:24
Edit: Amazon finally got a shipping date....Oct 1!!! Lol!
That's fucking ridiculous. I'm sorry man.

At this point I wonder if it would be quicker (though obviously more expensive) to just have a UK copy shipped out to you. I understand unprecedented times and what not, but plenty of other releases made it to stores on the release date last Friday. What's the deal Virgin?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: instantreigen on Sep 14, 2023, 18:53
Quote from: instantreigen on Sep 09, 2023, 15:16
I have a copy of the version with the longer intro on vinyl! I should rip it some day
lo and behold...
IMG_20230914_205009.jpg
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 14, 2023, 18:58
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 14, 2023, 18:13
I'm not feeling this one (I Want To Know), for me it's the weakest Chemical release in a loooooong time.
Sounds like it was recorded on a reel to reel tape recorder where either the tape or the recorder went wonky. Or both.
I could imagine it soundtracking a bad acid trip in an indie/arthouse film. I don't imagine it soundtracking anyone's good times either on film or in life.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 14, 2023, 19:16
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 14, 2023, 18:13
I'm not feeling this one (I Want To Know), for me it's the weakest Chemical release in a loooooong time. The melody just kind of simmers along without going anywhere interesting.
I have other contenders for weakest new Chemical tunes, but I agree that this is rather underdeveloped. It starts out with the sickest beat they probably ever put out but then starts dragging and even getting tedious after a while with that main "melody".
Spoiler
Repetitiveness and "Not adding much interesting layers/ stuff" is a grievance I also have with the new album at times.
I remember a time where I was desperately on the hunt for a copy of Believe to get Giant and Spring(!!!) !
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 14, 2023, 19:31
I'd love if there were still single CDs these days to hunt down.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 14, 2023, 21:28
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 13, 2023, 22:15
That's basically what we got for the Listening Party at Rough Trade East last Wednesday. They were clearly playing files, and all the transitions had big gaps in them.
Meanwhile we stood there looking at a sealed display copy of the vinyl*...

*this would also have some gaps of course, because the music is spread over 4 or 6 sides of plastic.
I bet their 'listening party' CD got delayed as well. 

Why couldn't they crack open the vinyl? 

I'd be annoyed too about gaps on a album playthrough. 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: inchemwetrust on Sep 14, 2023, 21:34
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 14, 2023, 18:41
That's fucking ridiculous. I'm sorry man.

At this point I wonder if it would be quicker (though obviously more expensive) to just have a UK copy shipped out to you. I understand unprecedented times and what not, but plenty of other releases made it to stores on the release date last Friday. What's the deal Virgin?
I'm considering that right now as I type. 

Edit: Wallyworld updated! They can ship it and arrive this Saturday!

Yeah right!  :))
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 14, 2023, 21:35
I quite love I Want To Know! I love dark, gloomy, and mysterious Chems, and this is a prime example! I quite love the main melody and almost guitar-like sound with it's backing synth. It creates such a foreboding and dark atmosphere that the song only builds on. The drums are also super strange and all over the place, in a chaotic feeling way which I love. I could see why people would think it doesn't vary enough, but it never manages to feel dry to me. They mix it up in a way that feels super unpredictable, yet maintain and enhance the mood. And I love the vocal, it adds to the element of mystery: "I want to know, what's going on," me too! The "hey, hey, hey"s add a lot as well.

Maybe it will grow off me as time goes on, but as of now I quite like it.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 14, 2023, 22:50
'I Want To Know' sounds like a brown acid trip with Donovan.

Seriously though, the "hey hey hey" part reminds me of the echoing(?) background vocals towards the end of Donovan's, 'Mellow Yellow'

Getting a spooky Dan the Automator production vibe, too.

I like it
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 15, 2023, 05:18
Said it couple of times in different places: It sounds like something around both Surrender and WATN eras
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 15, 2023, 05:46
Dying over the brown acid trip comment :D Daaaaaang that is a weird freakin song! I listened to this twice now. I'm not sure how to feel about it. The beat stumbles through cascades of uneasy sounds. Something feels off and maybe that's deliberate. Weird weird head trip..
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Sep 15, 2023, 05:49
Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 15, 2023, 05:18
Said it couple of times in different places: It sounds like something around both Surrender and WATN eras
Hmmm maybe you are on to something! The song seems very much like a liminal space.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 15, 2023, 16:48
So here's my 2 cents on FTBF (regular, japan & usb exclusive edition) after giving this a couple of spins finaly


Spoiler
01 Intro
Track itself starts like a perfect opener for the album, but i don't get why this is a seperatet track from =>

02 Live Again
This tune still is heavy and deserves it's place as album opener. Plus the transition into No Reason is perfect.

03 No Reason
When reading the tracklist first, i wasn't so shure about it coming directly after Live Again because both have not so much in common - but as written for LA the transition from LA to NR is flawless and when i have to pick a certain part of that album to be my favorite part it is this transition (even though it could have been a bit longer) because it doesn't give you time breathe - it is just 'party on garth, party on wayne'. Second favorite part is the transition into =>

04 Goodbye
I was heavily attracted to this track from all the dj set recordings so i had high expectations on this one - and you know what? Tom and Ed delivered. This is the most fantastic track on the album, you cannot skip this without regret it instantly. Haven't thought about it until writing this, but i think it moved straight into my top 10 or 15 of all tracks from the Brothers. They could have had it on the album twice and i would still celebrate it. And unlike some others here i don't miss the Jesse Jackson samples.

05 Fountains
Maybe it has just the wrong place on album but coming after Live Again / No Reason / Goodbye with all it's power and segues into each other it comes quiet boring. Also it has no real identifying feature - the beat is nice but has no highlight, and the vocal sample too doesn't make it more interesting. On a six star rating it only gets 2 stars at best (pawn shop guy voice: "best i can do is two stars")

06 Magic Wand
Love it, comes at third on my favourite tracks from FTBF. That beat is fun to hear, i like the vocal sample. Would have been perfect after Goodbye in track order but...

07 The Weight
See "Fountains". Sorry.

08 Skipping Like A Stone
As mentioned by some of the peeps here, the regular album and single version of this track is not bad but also not good (in germany we would say "nicht fleisch, nicht fisch"). If the extended version would have taken place instead, i wouldn't have any complaints. The extended version doesn't make it a complete different track, even though Ben_J is saying so, but it is the superior listening experience.

09 The Darkness That You Fear (Harvest Mix)
I liked the 2021 version, so for me there was no real reason to rework this and put it on the album. Also, i don't get the name "Harvest Mix". Call it "Mix 2" like with Under The Influence or Chico's Groove and release it on a single as b-side or on Disc 2 of "The Singles 03-23".
But whats realy nice is the added Bongo sound - i instantly thought "well, live this could nicely transist into It Began In Afrika or like on Come With Us into Galaxy Bounce". Maybe someone has had the same thoughts and already written this down :D . Speaking of it transition into another song - if T&E can do anything it's making fantastic segues (well, most of the time), an the the segue into

10 Feels Like I Am Dreaming
is also dope af. FLIAD is a brilliant track, my second favourite track on the album. It's rough, it kicks butt, Ellies vocals fit in perfectly, it's not to short and at the same time not to long. You can rave your ass off to this all night long. Tom, Ed - please keep this as long as possible in your live sets.

11 For That Beautiful Feeling
Fantastic album closer, perfectly seated behind FLIAD. Last time a "last track" was that good - maybe Wonders Of The Deep or Hannas Theme (Vocal Version) [yep, i love Wide Open, but it's not an album closener for me].

12 All Of A Sudden
This one's a nice party track for doing some crazy dance moves. It's weird that it is 'only' a b-side (to No Reason) or a bonus track (to the Japan and USB versions of the album) - this could have been a perfect Electronic Battle Weapon. I understand why this hasn't landed on the album, it doesn't fit the vibe of it, but it imo would have a been a better choice rather than Fountains & Weight.

13 I Want To Know
OK, this one is weird. It has an interesting flow somehow, but at the same time feels very depressing. Take any Gaspar Noé movie and put this on the soundtrack, always fits.

14 No Reason [Extended]
Only couple of seconds longer than the original version. I like the ending more than the aprubt one on the original but other than that, there's no real reason to prefer this.

15 Live Again [Extended]
I really like the begining on the extended version, much much better than the single version. But if i had to choose between the extended version and the album version (intro+live again) - i'll prefer the latter.

16 Skipping Like A Stone [Extended]
See Skipping Like A Stone above
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 15, 2023, 21:16
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 15, 2023, 16:48
14 No Reason [Extended] Only couple of seconds longer than the original version. I like the ending more than the aprubt one on the original but other than that, there's no real reason to prefer this.
It's my fav version and I don't know why it's called as extended, IMO the single version should been called as edit.
Those 30 seconds are basically the longer intro and outro section (luckily the album version is based on this extended mix which gives some more space for the acid intro)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ford on Sep 17, 2023, 15:38
Found the liner notes for Goodbye interesting - sorry if this has been mentioned before.

What's the difference between 'under licence' and 'used by permission'? Can the rights holder now ask for a princely sum for the use of their sample since the Chemical Brothers track has already been produced and distributed?

Goodbye
Written by Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons and Robert Argyrios Gantzos (BMG Rights Management (UK) Ltd, Deju Music (BMI)). Contains a sample of 'Good-bye* performed by Teresa Harris & The Gene Parker Quintet.
Under license from Tramp Records. Written by Robert Argyrios Gantzos. Published by Deju Music (BMI).
We request that the rights holder of this composition contact BMG as we were unable to contact them despite all efforts.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 22, 2023, 04:57
I apologize if this has been mentioned already, but I was messing around with digital album jumping from track-to-track, and accidentally came across a potentially hidden aspect to the album.

Play the first 3 seconds of Skipping Like a Stone and then click to play For That Beautiful Feeling.

Inhale...

Exhale...

Edit-
Goddammit, I just tracked down Wolkenkrabber's review and sure enough he mentions it. This man don't miss! Also, Biff got this too. Credit where credit is due!

Anyway, it's still unique to hear the first 3 seconds of SLAS and then immediately the first 3 seconds of FTBF
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 22, 2023, 07:06
Doh. I forgot the US releases don't get the official XDUST treatment. Such a shame.

Definitely going to have to pick up a UK copy next time I'm back! (No Geography too, for that matter).
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 22, 2023, 08:38
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 22, 2023, 04:57
Play the first 3 seconds of Skipping Like a Stone and then click to play For That Beautiful Feeling.
...
Edit-
Goddammit, I just tracked down Wolkenkrabber's review and sure enough he mentions it. This man don't miss! Also, Biff got this too. Credit where credit is due!

Anyway, it's still unique to hear the first 3 seconds of SLAS and then immediately the first 3 seconds of FTBF
Well done for jumping back to p24 and reading my little review. I would argue that the choral sound is at the end of FLIAD (from 5:22 to 6:58)  more than the start of FTBF (the first 3 or 4 seconds). At least that's how it works with the digital tracks, but perhaps could be viewed differently with vinyl and cassette. Props to Biff for adding more detail on that too.
The extended mix of SLAS of course, has a much longer version of that choral intro.

Reading my "listening party" review back now, I have no idea why I thought Goodbye had a nod to A Higher State Of Consciousness. I guess there are advantages and disadvantages to parking yourself under a speaker at the listening party (yes I'm blaming the acoustics!). My U2 reference was a bit off too...
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Sep 22, 2023, 11:55
Quote from: Ford on Sep 17, 2023, 15:38
Found the liner notes for Goodbye interesting - sorry if this has been mentioned before.

What's the difference between 'under licence' and 'used by permission'? Can the rights holder now ask for a princely sum for the use of their sample since the Chemical Brothers track has already been produced and distributed?

Goodbye
Written by Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons and Robert Argyrios Gantzos (BMG Rights Management (UK) Ltd, Deju Music (BMI)). Contains a sample of 'Good-bye* performed by Teresa Harris & The Gene Parker Quintet.
Under license from Tramp Records. Written by Robert Argyrios Gantzos. Published by Deju Music (BMI).
We request that the rights holder of this composition contact BMG as we were unable to contact them despite all efforts.


I think this means the label (tramp records) gave chems licensing but they didn't manage to actually contact the artist themselves to confirm?
Not sure though - interested as well
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: HavanaVegas on Sep 26, 2023, 11:12
What does everyone think the next (and presumably final) single from FTBF will be?

I'm kinda tied between Goodbye and Feels Like I'm Dreaming 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 26, 2023, 11:38
I don't think anyone talked about it, but doesn't The Weight remind you of Power Move ? Very similar beat, bass and overall tone.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 26, 2023, 11:47
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 26, 2023, 11:12
What does everyone think the next (and presumably final) single from FTBF will be?

I'm kinda tied between Goodbye and Feels Like I'm Dreaming
I think it will be Dreaming. Would also make one hell of an EBW. (As would, of course, Goodbye)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Ben_j on Sep 26, 2023, 11:58
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 26, 2023, 11:12
What does everyone think the next (and presumably final) single from FTBF will be?

I'm kinda tied between Goodbye and Feels Like I'm Dreaming
I'm voting for "Intro"
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 26, 2023, 12:44
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 26, 2023, 11:47
I think it will be Dreaming. Would also make one hell of an EBW. (As would, of course, Goodbye)
But when FLIAD was suggested as an EBW to Tom he said: "maybe something new for that". So the next 'single' might be EBW13 and it...could be something new that we haven't heard?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 27, 2023, 02:26
Do we know for sure there will be another single? This is my first time actually following an album rollout, so excuse my lack of knowledge. 

I was surprised Tom hadn't thought of Dreaming as EBW 13, as to me (and others), it screams EBW. The way he phrased his response made it sound like, to me, there weren't currently any plans for an EBW 13, so maybe that could be something for next year or the year after as a release to give us something in between XDUST12 and XDUST13 (if there is one). 

This is EXTREMELY optimistic, but maybe they'll put out Too Hot as a single now or they could tag it on to whatever single is next. The way Tom talked about it definitely implied there weren't currently plans to put out, but who knows, maybe that was him playing dumb? Probably not, that's just the little hope remaining in me that this one won't remain lost on the Chemical shelves for the next 30 years. 

My guess is the next single (if there is one) will be Feels Like I Am Dreaming and it will use this as the cover art: (https://www.artnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/img-krushenick180033787060.png?w=682)

Small side note: WAAAYYYY Earlier in this thread, I made some observations about how the title of the album felt weird compared to the others in terms of structure, but others have pointed out and I'm starting to realize that, when added on to most of the early album titles, it makes a more full command!

Exit Planet Dust for that beautiful feeling
Dig Your Own Hole for that beautiful feeling
Surrender for that beautiful feeling (or surrender to?)
Come With Us for that beautiful feeling
Push The Button for that beautiful feeling (my favorite combo)
For That Beautiful Feeling for that beautiful feeling
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 27, 2023, 05:14
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Sep 26, 2023, 12:44
So the next 'single' might be EBW13 and it...could be something new that we haven't heard?
they did say they had a triple LPs worth of material until they backed away from that idea. some of that material might go somewhere.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Sep 27, 2023, 05:58
Quote from: shakermaker on Sep 27, 2023, 05:14
they did say they had a triple LPs worth of material until they backed away from that idea. some of that material might go somewhere.

Tom responding to 3LP/4LP question from Rolling Stone UK (https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/music/features/the-chemical-brothers-30-years-of-alchemy-32862/) interview:
Quote
I wish I had never said that ! We make hundreds of tracks in the studio every day that don't make it to release. We're only interested in the ones that we love. We're still obsessed with creating an album that flows and takes people on a journey. That's the ultimate goal of our work. We don't make compromises. We choose the songs that we both agree on, because we have to play them together on stage. There are so many bands out there where one member has done a song that the others don't like, and they walk off stage and let the guy play it on his own with an acoustic guitar!

So yeah... Tom being Tom. Still doesn't disprove that there is more material behind closed doors ;) .



Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 26, 2023, 11:12
What does everyone think the next (and presumably final) single from FTBF will be?
I'm kinda tied between Goodbye and Feels Like I'm Dreaming

I'm not sure anymore singles are coming. I could see a "wrap up" EP. Maybe an alternative mix or two, instrumental, etc. Or perhaps another music video, but not a single (think, We've Got to Try).

Has a 2023 Black Friday RSD announcement been made yet?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 27, 2023, 17:44
Quote from: Bosco on Sep 27, 2023, 05:58
So yeah... Tom being Tom.
oh, Tom.  :D
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Stefan on Sep 27, 2023, 17:46
Quote from: Ben_j on Sep 26, 2023, 11:58
I'm voting for "Intro"
I'm in
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Sep 27, 2023, 19:41
Quote from: Ben_j on Sep 26, 2023, 11:58
I'm voting for "Intro"
Quote from: Stefan on Sep 27, 2023, 17:46
I'm in
Spoiler
The one that should have never seen the day of light?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Sep 28, 2023, 01:37
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Sep 26, 2023, 11:12
What does everyone think the next (and presumably final) single from FTBF will be?

I'm kinda tied between Goodbye and Feels Like I'm Dreaming
Unedited, longer and radio edit versions of FLIAD, but I hope for alt mixes like Eve of Dub too 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gavin35 on Sep 28, 2023, 09:49
Been listening to the album lots again after taking a bit of a break from it.
One thing that I dont really like is the release roadmap of dripfeeding songs and clips out. Im sure they have experts with data to prove that this is the best way to maximise sales potential etc but I much prefer the oldschool way of 1 single, then the album, then a couple more singles with new tracks/remixes released with them. 
I find this new way, before the album is even out Im kind of bored of a few tunes on it, probably my own fault for overplaying No Reason when it first dropped. 

Also, not sure if this has happened with anyone else but there is a small inkling of sadness now knowing the album is out and we'll have to wait another 2 or 3 years before the next one is released. Its like Christmas, all the build up then before you know it its over



Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Sep 28, 2023, 11:34
Quote from: gavin35 on Sep 28, 2023, 09:49
Been listening to the album lots again after taking a bit of a break from it.
One thing that I dont really like is the release roadmap of dripfeeding songs and clips out. Im sure they have experts with data to prove that this is the best way to maximise sales potential etc but I much prefer the oldschool way of 1 single, then the album, then a couple more singles with new tracks/remixes released with them.
I find this new way, before the album is even out Im kind of bored of a few tunes on it, probably my own fault for overplaying No Reason when it first dropped.

Also, not sure if this has happened with anyone else but there is a small inkling of sadness now knowing the album is out and we'll have to wait another 2 or 3 years before the next one is released. Its like Christmas, all the build up then before you know it its over
Feels like your first message you said you disliked the release method (which is standard nowadays) then afterwards you basically said you liked the build up!

Its been even worse the getting bored already for me - i first heard No Reason and Dreaming almost 2 years ago now!

I think TDTYF coming out over 3 years ? i think? ago hasn't helped
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Sep 28, 2023, 11:40
Quote from: Ben_j on Sep 26, 2023, 11:58
I'm voting for "Intro"
intro (extended version)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Sep 28, 2023, 20:12
i don't happen to love singles, and especially i dislike the new music culture of releasing just lots of singles over streaming and no start-to-finish records :/

personally if i'm looking forward to an album, i just don't listen to anything about it so i can experience the proper narrative flow
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ThePumisher on Sep 28, 2023, 21:46
Quote from: gfa2001 on Sep 28, 2023, 11:34
I think TDTYF coming out over 3 years
June 12th 2021
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gavin35 on Sep 29, 2023, 11:17
Quote from: gfa2001 on Sep 28, 2023, 11:34
Feels like your first message you said you disliked the release method (which is standard nowadays) then afterwards you basically said you liked the build up!

Its been even worse the getting bored already for me - i first heard No Reason and Dreaming almost 2 years ago now!

I think TDTYF coming out over 3 years ? i think? ago hasn't helped
No sorry what I meant was I dislike the release method but I love the excitement of a new Chems album coming out, should have been clearer!
Wow where did you hear those 2 years ago?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Sep 29, 2023, 15:29
Quote from: ThePumisher on Sep 28, 2023, 21:46
June 12th 2021
Quote from: gavin35 on Sep 29, 2023, 11:17
No sorry what I meant was I dislike the release method but I love the excitement of a new Chems album coming out, should have been clearer!
Wow where did you hear those 2 years ago?


Quote gone funny on mobile - my mistake on TDTYF release, thought it was covid summer for some reason.

Regarding hearing them 2 years ago - DJ sets
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 29, 2023, 17:54
Dreaming, No Reason, and Live Again, and All Of A Sudden were all first heard in the 2021 DJ sets. Goodbye, as far as we know, was first heard in the 2022 DJ sets. So there were over two years between first hearing and release for Chemical fans!
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gavin35 on Sep 30, 2023, 13:49
Quote from: Ford on Sep 17, 2023, 15:38
Found the liner notes for Goodbye interesting - sorry if this has been mentioned before.

What's the difference between 'under licence' and 'used by permission'? Can the rights holder now ask for a princely sum for the use of their sample since the Chemical Brothers track has already been produced and distributed?

Goodbye
Written by Tom Rowlands, Ed Simons and Robert Argyrios Gantzos (BMG Rights Management (UK) Ltd, Deju Music (BMI)). Contains a sample of 'Good-bye* performed by Teresa Harris & The Gene Parker Quintet.
Under license from Tramp Records. Written by Robert Argyrios Gantzos. Published by Deju Music (BMI).
We request that the rights holder of this composition contact BMG as we were unable to contact them despite all efforts.


My understanding was that under licence is they had to pay for the sample. By permission is they asked and the original artist just let them use the sample for free. Complete guess though 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 30, 2023, 19:03
Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but I was doing my regular SACEM checking, and noticed quite a few changes.

Their entries have been being added and removed pretty fluidly over the last several months, so most changes weren't noteworthy or worth posting about. But there were two things that stuck out to me on this read through:

1. A LOT of Hanna soundtrack tracks were added, added with an altered title, or just added for a second time. Here are some recently added:
CONTAINER PARK WHISTLE
HANNA VS MARISSA PART 2
CHALICE 2
INTERROGATION A
INTERROGATION B
MAP SOUNDS

None of these are listed like this in the actual soundtrack; "MAP SOUNDS CHALICE 2" is there, but now there is also separately "MAP SOUNDS" and "CHALICE 2?" There's also a Hanna vs Marissa part 2 which I don't see anywhere?

There were also 3 new titles with "whistle;" "CONTAINER PARK WHISTLE," "CAMPSITE WHISTLE," and "RANGE ROVER WHISTLE." Container Park is obviously from the Hanna soundtrack, but these other two, Campsite and Range Rover, I can't find anywhere else. Anyone know anything about these? And what this added "whistle" is?

2. All of the FTBF feeling songs have been added (including The Weight which is, for some reason, just listed as "WEIGHT"), but two tracks stuck out: "I WANT TO KNOW INSTRUMENTAL VERSION" and "MAGIC WAND INSTRUMENTAL VERSION." Not only does this imply the existence of these tracks, but also that they may, at some point, be released? Not sure why else they would add them to SACEM. Also, this is a very weird choice of tracks to have instrumental versions for; not Live Again, No Reason, or Skipping Like A Stone, but the Japan exclusive track and the 2.5 minute track in the middle of the album? I'm not complaining though, these are probably my two favorite tracks from this era, so I'm glad they're getting attention, for some reason.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: ; on Sep 30, 2023, 19:06
Also, "GUITAR TUNED TO D" has been added twice. I looked before for this track in the past, and saw it mentioned here on the forum, but can't find the track itself. Anyone have it?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Oct 03, 2023, 07:01
It's almost a month since release and no review from Pitchfork. What gives? I don't even care if it's positive review or not, just acknowledgment to their loyal readers/viewers that FTBF exists. Same with Anthony Fantano (@theneedledrop on YouTube). These are currently two main music media presences in America. Not good.


Also, I was in Chicago (proper) over the weekend, and I checked out the highly touted local record chain 'Reckless Records' and the amount of Chemical Brothers releases was pretty dire. There was no sight of any FTBF releases and barely anything from their discography in the new and used section.  This is a problem.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: gfa2001 on Oct 03, 2023, 10:59
Quote from: ; on Sep 30, 2023, 19:03
Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but I was doing my regular SACEM checking, and noticed quite a few changes.

Their entries have been being added and removed pretty fluidly over the last several months, so most changes weren't noteworthy or worth posting about. But there were two things that stuck out to me on this read through:

1. A LOT of Hanna soundtrack tracks were added, added with an altered title, or just added for a second time. Here are some recently added:
CONTAINER PARK WHISTLE
HANNA VS MARISSA PART 2
CHALICE 2
INTERROGATION A
INTERROGATION B
MAP SOUNDS

None of these are listed like this in the actual soundtrack; "MAP SOUNDS CHALICE 2" is there, but now there is also separately "MAP SOUNDS" and "CHALICE 2?" There's also a Hanna vs Marissa part 2 which I don't see anywhere?

There were also 3 new titles with "whistle;" "CONTAINER PARK WHISTLE," "CAMPSITE WHISTLE," and "RANGE ROVER WHISTLE." Container Park is obviously from the Hanna soundtrack, but these other two, Campsite and Range Rover, I can't find anywhere else. Anyone know anything about these? And what this added "whistle" is?

2. All of the FTBF feeling songs have been added (including The Weight which is, for some reason, just listed as "WEIGHT"), but two tracks stuck out: "I WANT TO KNOW INSTRUMENTAL VERSION" and "MAGIC WAND INSTRUMENTAL VERSION." Not only does this imply the existence of these tracks, but also that they may, at some point, be released? Not sure why else they would add them to SACEM. Also, this is a very weird choice of tracks to have instrumental versions for; not Live Again, No Reason, or Skipping Like A Stone, but the Japan exclusive track and the 2.5 minute track in the middle of the album? I'm not complaining though, these are probably my two favorite tracks from this era, so I'm glad they're getting attention, for some reason.
I wonder if point 2 suggests a wider release of I want to know with the instrumental as a b side?

Surely they wouldn't release the instrumentals together as a single or something without a wider release for the original version? Or perhaps suggests an extended version or something
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whirlygirl on Oct 03, 2023, 23:34
Quote from: Bosco on Oct 03, 2023, 07:01
It's almost a month since release and no review from Pitchfork. What gives? I don't even care if it's positive review or not, just acknowledgment to their loyal readers/viewers that FTBF exists. Same with Anthony Fantano (@theneedledrop on YouTube). These are currently two main music media presences in America. Not good.


Also, I was in Chicago (proper) over the weekend, and I checked out the highly touted local record chain 'Reckless Records' and the amount of Chemical Brothers releases was pretty dire. There was no sight of any FTBF releases and barely anything from their discography in the new and used
section.  This is a problem.
Hmmmm... I haven't ventured to any record stores these past two weeks so I can't speak for the Chems' inventory. But yeah, I agree this is concerning, considering the US touring viability news also... I wonder what's up? 
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Post by: shakermaker on Oct 06, 2023, 18:01
hmv has what they call an "album of the year" edition, which they describe as "exclusive limited edition white vinyl", and appears to be the same as the web store exclusive. 

https://hmv.com/store/music/vinyl/for-that-beautiful-feeling-exclusive-white-vinyl

confusing 
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Oct 06, 2023, 22:52
Quote from: shakermaker on Oct 06, 2023, 18:01
hmv has what they call an "album of the year" edition, which they describe as "exclusive limited edition white vinyl", and appears to be the same as the web store exclusive.

https://hmv.com/store/music/vinyl/for-that-beautiful-feeling-exclusive-white-vinyl

confusing


The Hmv one is whiter than white... 

whiter than the rest... 

...couldn't get much whiter
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Oct 06, 2023, 22:56
Yeah, it kinda feels like a stone!

feels like stone.png
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whitelabel84 on Oct 07, 2023, 02:29
Quote from: shakermaker on Oct 06, 2023, 18:01
hmv has what they call an "album of the year" edition, which they describe as "exclusive limited edition white vinyl", and appears to be the same as the web store exclusive.

https://hmv.com/store/music/vinyl/for-that-beautiful-feeling-exclusive-white-vinyl

confusing

It is the exact same barcode as the Chems store exclusive. 
They must of held some back for HMV 🤔 or it's getting a repress?
Also, still 'sold out' via Sound of Vinyl UK
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Post by: shakermaker on Oct 07, 2023, 04:25
Quote from: whitelabel84 on Oct 07, 2023, 02:29
They must of held some back for HMV 🤔 or it's getting a repress?
or they produced too much stock and need to offload it?
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Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Oct 07, 2023, 07:56
Quote from: shakermaker on Oct 07, 2023, 04:25
or they produced too much stock and need to offload it?
Looking at the UK album chart website (https://www.officialcharts.com/albums/chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling/), the album went into the chart at No 6 in its first week and then, dare I say...dropped like a stone. Total weeks on chart: 1.
Perhaps that's why they (temporarily) slashed prices on the webstore so soon after release.

BITE by comparison peaked at No 1 and lasted 8 weeks on the Top 100.
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Post by: Bosco on Oct 07, 2023, 09:05
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Oct 07, 2023, 07:56
Looking at the UK album chart website (https://www.officialcharts.com/albums/chemical-brothers-for-that-beautiful-feeling/), the album went into the chart at No 6 in its first week and then, dare I say...dropped like a stone. Total weeks on chart: 1.
Perhaps that's why they (temporarily) slashed prices on the webstore so soon after release.

BITE by comparison peaked at No 1 and lasted 8 weeks on the Top 100.

That's a bummer.

I'm sure Tom and Ed aren't much bothered by it, but management is probably pretty concerned.

I do wonder how far this reflects on their live act within the foreseeable future. If you don't have a popular album (especially within your home country), you're not exactly in very leverageable position to demand a headline spot anywhere of significance. That being said, they have an incredibly deep catalog and reputable record that should bypass any doubt. Weird times, and tough times.

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Post by: satur8 on Oct 07, 2023, 15:34
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Oct 07, 2023, 07:56
BITE by comparison peaked at No 1 and lasted 8 weeks on the Top 100.
Crazy. I think this album is superior to BITE, both as a commercially viable source of chart-accessible single material and as a pleasing album for long time fans. That news sucks.
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Post by: Bosco on Oct 07, 2023, 19:18
Quote from: satur8 on Oct 07, 2023, 15:34
Crazy. I think this album is superior to BITE, both as a commercially viable source of chart-accessible single material and as a pleasing album for long time fans. That news sucks.

I disagree that FTBF is more commercially viable than BITE.

BITE featured 3 notable artist at its specific time of release. Q-Tip, Beck, and St. Vincent.

Beck just off of a remarkable Grammy win for Album of The Year. St.Vincent an alt-pop indie darling, still in the apex of her career.  And finally the return of Q-Tip a beloved member of one of the most important and influential hip hop groups. A Tribe Called Quest would release their final album the following year.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: satur8 on Oct 07, 2023, 20:21
Quote from: Bosco on Oct 07, 2023, 19:18
Beck just off of a remarkable Grammy win for Album of The Year. St.Vincent an alt-pop indie darling, still in the apex of her career.  And finally the return of Q-Tip a beloved member of one of the most important and influential hip hop groups. A Tribe Called Quest would release their final album the following year.
Those are great points. I guess I was thinking more like a fan than I realized.

I love Wide Open, but I think Skipping Like A Stone, Live Again, and even Fountains are all far superior to the other album's opening 3 of Sometimes I Feel So Deserted, Go, and Under Neon Lights.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Oct 07, 2023, 21:26
8 years have also passed since BITE. buying habits have changed.
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Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Oct 08, 2023, 12:30
I would probaby agree with Bosco's comments, and I'd suggest that Go in particular was a sort of sleeper hit that everyone seemed to know - whether they heard it on a car commercial or a sports broadcast or whatever.

Some further opinions here which I can't necessarily back up with facts:

I suspect most people in their teens or 20s - if they've even heard of the Chems - probably associate them with their Dad's generation rather than their own.
Those Dads will be 40-50 ish and probably not as interested in listening to new music, even if
a) it's by an artist they like
b) it's actually good.

I saw someone in comments on YT (or social media?) commenting on Live Again: "this isn't what I got into the Chems for when I bought Exit Planet Dust".
I think those of us on the forum are bigger fans than the average person and perhaps more open minded about new music, rather than saying "this isn't Block Rockin Beats".

The biggest "hit possibilty" on FTBF for me is probably SLAS but it would need a re-edit (bring the chorus back towards the end) and a de-clutter (like the extended mix but...shorter) in order to become a radio hit. And a hit does make a difference.

Anyone remember the (radio? podcast?) interview that Tom and Adam Smith did, I think around 2019, when Adam asked Tom: "would you do a whole album live?" Tom replied: "not yet". I think Tom is aware that as an audience gets older they just want to hear the old hits, even if the new stuff is good.

In the case of say, Rolling Stones fans, they probaby haven't missed much if they've avoided new Stones albums after about 1984. In the case of The Chems, it's a shame if people don't want to open their minds to new music. But you can't force them to.

The Stones have continued to do fine live (I considered tickets for their last Hyde Park gig, then looked at the price and said "nope" - there's only two original members left at this point!).
The Chems autumn tour is pretty close to being sold out so I'm sure their UK/European tour future will be fine for many years to come. I noticed that T&E mentioned the live reaction to FLIAD (greater than to HBHG, they reckon) so maybe their new music will still make an impact on people - if they go to see the Chems live.
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Post by: gfa2001 on Oct 20, 2023, 14:18
new merch out in the UK + got glint hat is back!

restocks of some special ltd editions too etc
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Post by: HavanaVegas on Oct 27, 2023, 12:34
It's a shame this album hasn't been a commercial hit, even though it is a critical darling. The CD has hardly been out of my car stereo in the past (nearly) 2 months  :music


I suppose they just need the right singles like "Go" and "Got To Keep On" to catapult them back into the mainstream. 
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Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Oct 29, 2023, 14:39
Quote from: HavanaVegas on Oct 27, 2023, 12:34
I suppose they just need the right singles
I think that the main 3 they chose (or 4 when we get back to the og, non album in mind release of TDTYF) are pretty on spot when it comes to that.
Sadly it isn't as black and white as "this song is amazing" for it to be noticed when there's such an abbundance of music around
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Post by: inchemwetrust on Nov 10, 2023, 17:05
(https://i.imgur.io/L4jGtMH_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Nov 10, 2023, 23:38
I'm pretty excited by the nomination, surprisingly given I usually don't give a damn about the Grammys. happy for the album to get some attention!
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Post by: Bosco on Nov 16, 2023, 20:01
New FTBF merch

https://merch.thechemicalbrothers.com/

(https://merch.thechemicalbrothers.com/cdn/shop/files/TCB-FTBF-Live_Again_Red.png?v=1699454287&width=1296)

Live Again shirt probably best design in years! That's unless, symmetry plays a big role in your life.
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Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 16, 2023, 20:50
^ Including the book - the deluxe edition with the 7" for £130: "Last 100 copies now available exclusively through the store!". Which may interest one or two people here.

I like that Live Again Tee. I think because a) it's not just a walking billboard advertising the band and b) it's an actual piece of artwork.
The colouring and abstractness is I think, reminiscent of the almost ubiquitous Scremadelica Tees I tend to see when I go to gigs (perhaps a reflection on the kind of gigs I go to). I remember Bobby Gillespie saying he wanted the Scremadelica artwork to take inspiration from New Order's Peter Saville artwork: a strong graphic image with no band picture. And I agree with Bobby's taste: so New Order (& Peter Saville), Primal Scream and the Chems (Nicholas Krushenick) "Love Juice" artwork perhaps all falls into a certain type, which I like.

PS New Order have a song called Love Juice. They only ever played it once live in Australia, and never released it.
PPS We have a merch thread. Maybe this should be there?
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Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Nov 23, 2023, 21:29
live again is an awesome shirt..but i'm not really too keen on the sleeve logo
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Csar on Nov 23, 2023, 22:35
Quote from: GLAKO-FAHN on Nov 23, 2023, 21:29
live again is an awesome shirt..but i'm not really too keen on the sleeve logo
Yeah. But it's almost the first time for me where a Chems shirt instantly looks "organic" and not, for lack of a better word, "contrived" or lackluster. I think this one works really well as a Chems shirt. The artwork doesn't look like it was just slapped onto any shirt, it just really flows well. I also like that the logo is not too big and prominent but still noticeable enough to stand out and compliment the shirt, like a final touch. I've always loved their logo, but sometimes it wasn't placed very well on some of their merch.

I would like the Skipping Stone shirt as much, but it's missing the logo and thus missing some vital part that would make a perfect Chems shirt for me
(https://merch.thechemicalbrothers.com/cdn/shop/files/TCB-FTBF-Skipping_Grey3.png?v=1699460851&width=900)
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Post by: shakermaker on Nov 24, 2023, 01:35
it won "the album award" at rolling stone UK awards.

not a best album award, just "the" album award.

rolling stone awards are a thing.

acceptance video: https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=870450094483124

https://www.rollingstone.co.uk/music/news/the-chemical-brothers-rolling-stone-uk-awards-2023-34293/
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 24, 2023, 03:32
Ah you beat me to it. Rolling Stone UK, but yeah it's nice anyway.
The album continues to be liked the by the critics. General public be damned!

https://twitter.com/RollingStoneUK/status/1727813054019051583
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Post by: Enjoyed on Nov 24, 2023, 19:17
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 16, 2023, 20:50
it's not just a walking billboard advertising the band
I've been thinking about this a lot, as I know it's a sentiment that a few share here on the forum.

Is there an issue with advertising the band? If it was a huge brand like Apple, then I could understand not feeling like you want to do their job for them, but even then, I typically will wear something with a logo on it because I DO want to advertise that brand. I want people to know I'm a fan of my local sandwich shop, and if it drives more business to them as a result, great! 

And especially for The Chems, who we've discussed not being considered as relevant as they used to be - wouldn't it be a good thing to help out with the advertising while also showing off your fandom?
I've legitimately had 3 or 4 conversations with strangers in the past few months who have seen my Chems hat or sweater and start chatting to me about them, telling me they haven't thought about The Chemical Brothers in ages. I let them know they just put out a new album, if my wife is there she usually gushes about the live show, and there's some interest piqued for them - to revisit someone they had forgotten about, or enjoyed somewhat in the past. Plus, I selfishly get to talk about my favourite band, or in other cases my favourite record labels, eSports team, or coffee roasters.

I don't know - I just feel like buying and wearing merch is a win win. Unless it's a brand you don't care for, in which case we wouldn't be having a conversation in the first place about wearing their logo!

Thems me thoughts, anyways.

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Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 25, 2023, 02:10
Quote from: Csar on Nov 23, 2023, 22:35
I would like the Skipping Stone shirt as much, but it's missing the logo and thus missing some vital part that would make a perfect Chems shirt for me

No, it's perfect. The logo is inside to reassure the wearer of its origins but the Tee itself is pure art. Why sully it with a commercial logo?

Quote from: Enjoyed on Nov 24, 2023, 19:17
Is there an issue with advertising the band? ... I typically will wear something with a logo on it because I DO want to advertise that brand. I want people to know I'm a fan of my local sandwich shop, and if it drives more business to them as a result, great!

And especially for The Chems, ... wouldn't it be a good thing to help out with the advertising while also showing off your fandom?

I don't know - I just feel like buying and wearing merch is a win win.


Going to secondary school in Ireland, everybody had these yellow canvas satchels. People would draw on them or write the name(s) of their favourite bands on them. 90% of those satchels had U2 written on them somewhere, and for me it got a bit tedious. Admittedly I did partake in the band name thing too, I had New Order, The Smiths and one or two other 'alternative' names scrawled on mine (The Chems didn't exist yet). I guess it's an identifying thing. I didn't have U2 on there though; too predictable!

The stachels would wear out after a year or two and people would buy new ones. By the time we reached 6th (final) year, most people had stopped putting band names on their satchels - they had kinda grown out of it.

As an extension to that, I feel it's a little corny to sport a band name on my clothes which promotes them. If people want me to promote things, they should pay me! So I like Tees that can celebrate the band without feeling like they're a commercial enterprise. I don't want to feel used.

I wish we didn't live in a world where everyone is advertising stuff. I notice the advertising at the US tennis open which I don't notice as much at Wimbledon (although it is at Wimbledon too - more subtly) and I think it's kinda garish. It makes things less pure.

I've noticed Ed Simons wearing a CALM/Blue Monday (https://www.thecalmzone.net/new-order-blue-monday-tee) shirt in photos more than once in the past year. I like it precisely because it doesn't scream the band name. In fact I have a black tee with the original 1983 sleeve art (https://www.discogs.com/release/20755-New-Order-Blue-Monday) myself. Unless you know how to tranlsate the colour code on it, then you're not going to know that it says anything. In the Factory Records years, it was common for New Order not to put the band name on the front of their records. Particularly the singles (a format which is/was generally released with commercial intentions). And I loved that. I still remember seeing the Touched By The Hand Of God (https://www.discogs.com/master/41091-New-Order-Touched-By-The-Hand-Of-God) 12" in HMV and immediately knowing it was them. I had never seen it before; I just knew.

In the case of these Nicholas Krushenick Tee's it seems a shame to add a commercial logo to them. If you know you know, or I guess you could ask if it catches your eye.
I'm not here to promote the commerical aspects of an artist/band who is considerably richer than me. I want the world (and art) to be as unsponsored and as pure as possible, and if people want me to clearly promote their band/business/whatever, then they might want to pay me or at least give me a freebie.

I remember Soulwax once handed out Tees to everyone at their gig (admittedly promoting Part Of The Weekend Never Dies) and I thought that was a cool move. If The Chems and others would like to follow suit and get us all to promote their brand/band as we emerge from their gigs, then I might oblige them! I will admit that it's a nice logo and looks good on coffee mugs.

So that's my anti-commercial, art for arts sake take on things. But to be clear, I'm all for The Chems promoting their music/brand, I just dont think I should be paying to help them.

Maybe I'm just a grumpy old fart though, eh?
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Post by: Csar on Nov 25, 2023, 10:06
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 25, 2023, 02:10
No, it's perfect. The logo is inside to reassure the wearer of its origins but the Tee itself is pure art. Why sully it with a commercial logo?
Because it looks darn sweet. The font is so unique that I consider it art, too, and would never think of it as "commercial" (how dare you  ::yell ). It gives Chem shirts/ merch the final touch.
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Post by: ThePumisher on Nov 25, 2023, 20:57
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0BqG_ANXmk/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Anybody knows what second slide is showing?
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Nov 25, 2023, 23:37
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 25, 2023, 02:10
I feel it's a little corny to sport a band name on my clothes which promotes them. If people want me to promote things, they should pay me!
this, at least for bRand names. Nike doesn't need me repping them, ROFL. I'm not promoting them for free. heck I'd be paying them for the shirt in the first place. no. (similarly, I try to not refer to stadiums by their current sponsor.)

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 25, 2023, 02:10
I like it precisely because it doesn't scream the band name.
these are my favorite kind of shirts too. to people who know, it's an immediate way to connect, almost a secret message. and to people who don't know, it may just look like a cool shirt.

but, I love band shirts in general. as Enjoyed mentioned, it can be a great conversation starter, and I'm happy to get word out there for smaller bands - it's like I am paying it forward for the pleasure that the band has brought to my life.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Nov 26, 2023, 07:43
The sleeve or back of shirt really is the ideal spot for a bands logo.

FTBF has the perfect color scheme to do a very loud and attractive track jacket. Solid zippered Blue Jacket, white Embroidered Chems logo over left breast, yellow contrasting cuffs and collar, and album artwork on back of jacket. Can even explore this in baseball tee form.

Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Bosco on Dec 03, 2023, 08:16
:wise

So with a grammy nod, Rolling Stone UK album of the year, and quite a few remixes featured with FTBF, does anyone other than me suspect an EP in the near future to cap/hype this era?

I have to imagine there is an unmixed version of "Feels Like I'm Dreaming" that they want to put out. And yes, let's get that Gerd Janson extended remix out on a physical platform. Erol Alkan, too!

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Post by: Stefan on Dec 03, 2023, 08:48
Not to mention that "something new for EBW13" that Tom teased (hopefully)
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jan 02, 2024, 02:20
I wonder if we'll gonna get some more FTBF releases, kind of dub self-remix/alt version of the songs like we've got with a few previous albums (well, technicaly we've got The Darkness and Skipping).
Dreaming music video pls 🙏

Too Hot RSD release? 🤔
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: whitelabel84 on Jan 02, 2024, 05:28
Quote from: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on Jan 02, 2024, 02:20
I wonder if we'll gonna get some more FTBF releases, kind of dub self-remix/alt version of the songs like we've got with a few previous albums (well, technicaly we've got The Darkness and Skipping).
Dreaming music video pls 🙏

Too Hot RSD release? 🤔

I reckon we'll see a 2CD Japanese Special Tour edition release sooner than later...
Fairly similar to the Born In The Echoes 2CD Japanese edition, I wouldn't be surprised if Universal JP release all then recent extended versions and remixes on the second disc *fingers crossed*

But a RSD release would be bloody lush too ... 
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Post by: gavin35 on Jan 02, 2024, 10:12
The new version of Wide Open would be great too
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: shakermaker on Feb 05, 2024, 04:59
Quote from: shakermaker on Nov 10, 2023, 23:38
I usually don't give a damn about the Grammys. happy for the album to get some attention!
casually back to not caring.
Title: Re: For That Beautiful Feeling (XDUST12)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Feb 17, 2024, 11:54
Quote from: Stefan on Aug 31, 2023, 11:24
Of course it's Taylor Swift :D
She is recently re-recording all of her previous albums (called album name + "Taylor's Version"), because her previous record label in some fuckery sold the master records to a music manager who bullied her: https://time.com/5949979/why-taylor-swift-is-rerecording-old-albums/
By re-recording all of her work, she's not only regaining ownership of her songs but also giving her fans a chance to listen/buy the music without contributing to the profits of a person who she's not on good terms with.
I even remember posting about this here, because iirc there's some fun legal stuff where the new owner now has the rights to the records, but not the rights to the songs themselves, and without those the ways in which he can profit from it are very limited.

This is the thread where Taylor Swift previously got discussed so this is where I'm posting. If someone wants to move this to another thread, well...ok

1) The YouTube algorithm decided to offer me a Candace Owens video - for reasons I haven't quite worked out.
2) I watched it anyway!
3) The title seems overly clickbait-y. I don't know why it would be "black women" in particular who would dislike Swift based on this info. More than one YouTube comment under the video says "it's not just black women who despise Taylor Swift".

Anyway the mostly factual stuff between 4:15 and about 9:50 is what caught my attention.
I didn't realise that Swift's own dad - a finance guy - owned 3% of Big Machine, the record company in question. But googling the words taylor swift dad big machine (https://www.google.com/search?q=taylor+swift+dad+big+machine&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=68f22bd42426079a&sxsrf=ACQVn0_a7xD1y23B_YB5bdgSJZPuKQBULA%3A1708166642007&ei=8o3QZYoG-I2Fsg-84J6IDw&ved=0ahUKEwiKx6fPmLKEAxX4RkEAHTywB_EQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=taylor+swift+dad+big+machine&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiHHRheWxvciBzd2lmdCBkYWQgYmlnIG1hY2hpbmUyChAAGIAEGEYY-wEyBRAAGIAEMgYQABgWGB4yCxAAGIAEGIoFGIYDMgsQABiABBiKBRiGAzILEAAYgAQYigUYhgMyFhAAGIAEGEYY-wEYlwUYjAUY3QTYAQFI4SRQ4ANYrx5wAXgAkAEAmAFXoAHdB6oBAjEyuAEDyAEA-AEBwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA4gGAZAGCLoGBggBEAEYEw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#ip=1) does indeed confirm it, and tells us that Dad - Scott Swift - made $15M from the sale of Taylor's original recordings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ansl0rBY9A
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Post by: Bosco on Feb 26, 2024, 07:03
I'm not sure if this is a global thing, but currently Amazon in the United States has the 3LP for $46.02, and  then, an additional 10% coupon upon checkout.

*EDIT* Now revisiting item listing, and thinking the 10% off might have been a limited weekend coupon. Still a good deal at the current price!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CBPNB1X8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Just purchased one, and total was $44.63 after tax