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Forum => The Social => Topic started by: Bosco on Mar 24, 2017, 19:42

Title: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: Bosco on Mar 24, 2017, 19:42
New album "Damage and Joy" out today, and it sounds fantastic. So excited to see them in May!

It should be noted, a lot of the tracks are re-recorded cuts from side projects that they have participated in.

Nevertheless. This album is rocking!


I did come across something interesting while listening to the album. And I'm not sure if this was noted in the past, but listen to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILJdCjXuGoU

Dissolve much?

Turns out it's one of the re-recorded tracks from their project band 'Freeheat'

original cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwreICT7eEo



so sampled? or coincedence?

Title: Re: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 24, 2017, 23:16
Good spot! If it's a coincidence then it's a big one. Tom has said in interviews he's been a fan of JAMC since he was at school, so it's certainly credible that he heard this at some point.

To borrow a term used on WhoSampled, I would suggest Dissolve contains an "interpolation" of the riff. But I guess only Tom knows for sure.

The album leaked a week ago but I haven't got around to listening to it. Big mistake! I also stumbled on their 21 Singles comp in my CD collection yesterday, and somewhere I have their Original Album Series collection (https://www.discogs.com/The-Jesus-Mary-Chain-Original-Album-Series/master/857393) containing the first five albums. Time for a Mary Chain binge.
Title: Re: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: Bosco on Mar 25, 2017, 00:39
I'm just now listening to it side by side with dissolve, and yes, interpolation is more accurate.
Title: Re: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Mar 26, 2017, 16:00
LOVE JAMC!  Was just listening to "Honey's Dead" the other day. 
Title: Re: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Feb 20, 2019, 23:40
Listening to French Disko earlier (following Enjoyed's Stereolab post), I was later singing "radio onnnn", and thinking, hmm...why? And then I started thinking about Dissolve and the JAMC.
And then it all clicked into place:
"Radio on" is a refrain from Jonathan Richman's Roadrunner. I'm pretty sure it influenced Stereolab's French Disko and it seems I'm not alone. (http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4304799) (ok, someone disagrees but...they're wrong!)

Roadrunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmHgnPPkkQ

"Radio on" riff becomes "La Resistance" on French Disko:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMHVoC9kJ6c

I suspect JAMC were also influenced by Richman's Roadrunner rather than by Stereolab [EDIT: The second last paragraph of this review (https://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/the-view-from-here/reviewed-jesus-mary-chain-damage-joy-99757) (before the Q&A)of JAMC mentions Jonathan Richman in relation to JAMC's The Two Of Us]. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more examples of Roadrunner infleuncing other songs too. I guess by the time the riff popped up in Dissolve, the "borrowing" of it wasn't so new. Although if it was a direct sample of Freeheat/Mary Chain that could have still been an issue. But it probably isn't.

Hope this makes some kind of sense.

Title: Re: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: Bosco on Feb 21, 2019, 21:17
ahh good ear my friend. And the riff is used well in all the songs!

It's funny cause I hear 'Roadrunner' quite frequently in my Pandora search (I frequently start my play selection with Velvet Underground or JAMC).

It seems like it's more of a common place then originally thought, so probably not fair to connect the two (Chems and JAMC) any more. Though I'm still hopping Chems pulled influence from JAMC, because I love both bands!
Title: Re: The Jesus and Mary Chain
Post by: sandelic on Feb 22, 2019, 08:51
Not sure why I'm still surprised at folks here and their good music taste.
You guys are awesome! :)