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Original post by Bosco:Figured this is now important enough and impacting all of us on a global scale where it deserves its own thread. Best of health to all of you and your families.
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Just bizarre stuff.
NBA is currently suspending the season while Rudy Gobert is preliminarily diagnosed with Corona.
NCAA Basketball Tournament is on the brink of being cancelled in full.
Tom Hanks announcing he is infected while in Australia.
h1n1 (Swine Flu) seemed to be the more deadly disease 11 years ago and never made this much noise or interference (from what I remember).
A lot of this is probably just a bunch of noise. But it's just amazing how the world might and already has changed from this
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 12, 2020, 03:10
Tom Hanks announcing he is infected while in Australia.
as a fan of toy story, Forrest Gump, and many more, mega prayers for Tom. I will not rest peacefully until tom hanks is safe and sound!
my sister at college got a flu and me & my family called daily to make sure it wasnt the coronavirus. thank god she's feeling well now.
I'm glad to see this thread. I wanted to check in and see how you all were doing, ❤️ Stay safe out there (and in there) my friends.
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 12, 2020, 03:10
h1n1 (Swine Flu) seemed to be the more deadly disease 11 years ago and never made this much noise or interference (from what I remember).
The mortality rate of the 2009 swine flu was much much lower. The coronavirus mortality rate is not extremely high either but the real danger is if it spreads out of control, the hospitals would be overwhelmed and wouldn't be able to handle everyone, which would raise the mortality rate of the virus, and of other stuff too, since they would not be able to handle people with other problems.
my coworker at work just got a voice message from the school district in our city about canceling all major school events for 30 days. Bookfairs, Sports events, Music Concerts, ETC.
Been watching this guy on Youtube. A doctor from Carlisle in Northern England offering daily updates and thoughts on the the whole thing, not just the UK. I get the feeling he may be retired or semi-retired.
I'm interested to hear the opinion of an independent medical scientist, as it may be more honest than the official lines trotted out by politicians or govt departments. Although he is nontheless an individual offering his opinions...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXcbF0uQVEY
^thanks for that.
The whole story about Italy prioritizing patients is really discouraging and basically bringing what Ben_j said to fruition.
i just hope the cases of this virus drop significantly soon. Economically, major companies are already getting hit the hardest, but can they sustain themselves in the long term and avoid a recession? Hold tight USA.
And the Corona virus testing here is not existent! If I meet the criteria of symptoms for COVID-19, the doctor is gonna be like 'tough shit!take some aspirin and walk it off'. Australia seems to have gotten their shit together and tested Tom Hanks and his wife. Other countries are way ahead of us, but that's why the testing is vital because it tells clinicians the extent of the spreaded virus in a city or county.
Fun fact: I have about 7 rolls of TP left! Any of you guys hoarding in sanitizer, water frenzy?
I stopped at three stores today and got nothing.
Personally, I really hope the Bros dont lose any gigs because of all this crap.
It's all Obamas fault!
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgekbd/trump-is-now-blaming-obama-for-the-lack-of-coronavirus-testing
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In France, in just 3 days they closed all schools, forbid events with more than 100 people, then ultimately closed restaurants, bars, cinemas and any location that draws crowd and are not essential. My company asked us to work from home, and my gf will probably be staying at home for a while too, since her company cancelled most flights (she's a flight attendant)... Thank god we have Netflix!
I live in a suburb of Chicago, but they've closed schools here for the next two weeks and presumably longer until this situation is a bit clearer. My sister who's a grade school teacher says they'll be converting to online lessons.
As for Chicago, they have encouraged public places and events to limit their crowds to 250 or less. This has nearly squashed all concerts and major events in full for the next few months. That being said, it's been documented throughout the day today that St. Patricks Day weekend is in full swing here in Chicago. Pubs in bar-crawl friendly neighborhoods have seen long lines out the door all day, ready to get shit-faced and swap spit.
But before you judge the ignorant drunkards above, I also plan to be going back to the rejoin the 70mm film festival that I had previously been participating, tomorrow. They're capping attendance at 250 people inside of a 700 person theatre but enforcing heightened sanitizing measures along with encouraging patrons to practice "social distancing" in their spacious theatre.
Edit: I approve of the sticky and the added info Csar! Great job, Thanks!
Same here, in Croatia.
Starting tomorrow, all schools and universities are closed, all lectures are online or over dedicated national television channels, mandatory 1 meter social interactions (when in lines, for example) and we have about 30 confirmed cases of coronavirus here (most of them, practically all, imported from Italy).
In most supermarkets, there are no flour or cooking oil atm, to name just a few examples.
World has gone insane, it was not this bad during war, ffs.
EDIT: 40+ cases confirmed, as of tonight, no wonder people are getting panicky, this is all starting to look like some bad disaster movie
@Bosco, thanks for your approval and thanks to you for bringing up the topic in the first place! Really important!
@Sandelic. Same here. Schools are not yet fully closed as of tomorrow but the compulsory attendance is suspended. Teachers and nursery school teachers are to be present Monday. I think university is closing down, though, offering similar opportunities like online tutoring. Not sure how they're going to handle the (final) exams for uni, college and highschool students. Last time I heard about it, they sought to go through with them considering special health protection meassures.
As for supermarkets this last Saturday, we also noticed the shortage of some groceries and hygiene related products later in the afternoon that day. Especially toilet paper, handkerchiefs, butter, crumbled cheese, tomatoes and processed bread were sold out or nearly sold out. At least it wasn't crowded at all, shoppers were normal and calm as usual and we didn't witness any panic buyers ourselves.
Quote from: sandelic on Mar 15, 2020, 17:56
In most supermarkets, there are no flour or cooking oil atm, to name just a few examples.
World has gone insane, it was not this bad during war, ffs.
I thought people in your part of the world would be a bit more sanguine about this panic buying stuff. I assumed it was just us sofites in places that haven't had major upheaval/war in a long time who were acting like a bunch of lemmings.
Also, here you can order groceries online and get them delivered. It's starting to annoy me now when I need one standard 4-pack of loo roll, and there's none...
Someone mentioned in the live section about Mexico & festivals. Ironically it seems Mexico is considering closing its boarders to stop Americans entering. I hope they tell Trump to hurry up and finish the f**king wall!
Having said all that, the news from Italy today is really bad. Toilet roll fortresses won't protect us from this. I see some scientists say they're making progress. I really hope so.
And I just read an article in a German newspaper that the bestest president of all time, in all universes and dimensions is trying to get his tiny hands on a German vaccine manufacturer to obtain exclusive access to such a vaccine apparently currently under development.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine
These times are truely bizarre.
Lots of food and paper product hoarding in Orange County, California.
We live with my 80 year old mom. We are keeping her at home, and using common sense when the hubs and I go and return home (hand washing and sanitizing the door knobs and things that touched a lot). This whole thing is surreal and everyone seems on the edge of panic. It is like we are waiting for the tide to come in now, and see what happens.
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 15, 2020, 20:48
I thought people in your part of the world would be a bit more sanguine about this panic buying stuff. I assumed it was just us sofites in places that haven't had major upheaval/war in a long time who were acting like a bunch of lemmings.
I would guess people are still remembering lack of stuff during the war and react like this.
It's a strange thing. Then there was no stuff to buy and people where much calmer about it.
Now they stack unnecessary amount of stuff just to feel safe, I guess.
Funny thing is, as much as people claim they are worried about this virus, cafe bars and shopping malls are stacked with people, where you can't enforce 1m rule. It's crazy.
I'm headed for a complicated situation this week. My Uncle just passed away over the weekend and funeral is set for Thursday. He turned 89 on Saturday and died on his birthday. It was unfortunate cause he was a really important figure within my family, but an absolute blessing because of his laundry list of health problems. It's an understatement when I say it was amazing he had made it this far. He didn't die from COVID-19 (or at least that I'm aware of), it was just finally his time.
An unexpected issue that arose, is the funeral on Thursday could potentially include several senior aged relatives. Some which live in California, and one that lives in Florida, so that means air travel (to Illinois). My Aunt (now widowed) is a sharp lady and I would assume she told everyone out of state to stay home. But each of these people out of state had a close relationship with my Uncle at one time.
More importantly though, nobody knows if they are incubating the virus or not. It's been expressed you can have Corona and show no symptoms while being a vessel for said virus. Every single one of these senior members of my family have had a bout with some type of health issue within the last 5 years. Nowhere near as bad as my Uncle who just passed, but notable nonetheless.
So yeah, that is the potential catastrophe I'm headed for this week. And I feel just horrible for my cousins and Aunt that are stuck in this predicament.
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 16, 2020, 06:38
I'm headed for a complicated situation this week. My Uncle just passed away over the weekend and funeral is set for Thursday. He turned 89 on Saturday and died on his birthday. It was unfortunate cause he was a really important figure within my family, but an absolute blessing because of his laundry list of health problems. It's an understatement when I say it was amazing he had made it this far. He didn't die from COVID-19 (or at least that I'm aware of), it was just finally his time.
An unexpected issue that arose, is the funeral on Thursday could potentially include several senior aged relatives. Some which live in California, and one that lives in Florida, so that means air travel (to Illinois). My Aunt (now widowed) is a sharp lady and I would assume she told everyone out of state to stay home. But each of these people out of state had a close relationship with my Uncle at one time.
More importantly though, nobody knows if they are incubating the virus or not. It's been expressed you can have Corona and show no symptoms while being a vessel for said virus. Every single one of these senior members of my family have had a bout with some type of health issue within the last 5 years. Nowhere near as bad as my Uncle who just passed, but notable nonetheless.
So yeah, that is the potential catastrophe I'm headed for this week. And I feel just horrible for my cousins and Aunt that are stuck in this predicament.
Bosco, this is horrible news. I am so so sorry for your loss, my deepest condolences. Sometimes you wonder why so many bad things converge at the wrong time. I've been caring for my granny who, after a stroke, has been living in a nursing home for 7 years and is turning 93 this year. Usually I visit her every week 1 or 2 times but refrained so in the last couple of weeks because of all this frenzy going on and to keep her safe because she's very frail at this point.
I believe your aunt is right about staying home regarding friends and relatives for the sake of everyone. When all of this calms down to a degree where gatherings are safer again, would it be an option to meet for a private family memorial ceremony later in the year?
Sending you strength and love in these dire moments.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Bosco.
Please accept my most sincere condolences.
My thoughts are with you and your family.
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 16, 2020, 06:38
So yeah, that is the potential catastrophe I'm headed for this week. And I feel just horrible for my cousins and Aunt that are stuck in this predicament.
Thats sad Bosco.
And i thought i had a bad week in front of me - i was in switzerland for one week* coming back yesterday, my father is turning 80 later this week and my doctor told me to just don't show up there because this all could turn into something bad.
*german government is saying that switzerland is one the countrys where you should definitely stay at for home for 2 weeks when you've been there and just closed borders this morning
Quote from: whirlygirl on Mar 15, 2020, 21:32
Lots of food and paper product hoarding in Orange County, California.
We live with my 80 year old mom. We are keeping her at home, and using common sense when the hubs and I go and return home (hand washing and sanitizing the door knobs and things that touched a lot). This whole thing is surreal and everyone seems on the edge of panic. It is like we are waiting for the tide to come in now, and see what happens.
Im watching my parents as well for the time being (they live in another city near me), and they're a little behind on things because the markets that they go to are out of the water, TP,food,etc! It took a day or two to get them caught up but my mom was crying during this crazy time we live in because of the empty shelves in stores. I told mom and dad repeatedly I work in the damn store (details soon) before all this stuff was happening but for some reason they forgot or just dont bother to ask for help. smh!
You see, I work in one of these Club/Warehouse/Membership stores as a supervisor, and I can tell you its insane to see people to come in and panic and binge shop almost half the store. Members coming into my face about complaints, customer service issues, and my favorite question that I get alot was "when will you have 'INSERT ITEM NAME HERE' back in stock?" Last Friday was chaotic! Even though we put limits on what you can buy (one TP per member,etc) all the meat, bakery, frozen food, milk, diary, drinks (other than soda and energy drink) were sold out. Very sad from a distance at night when the store closed to take a peek into these empty refrigerators. We had extra stockers later that same night to come in early to get the pallets off the trucks and replenish the store. Then Saturday comes up and starts off with a fight out in the parking lot over some stupid shit. But now, members were scraping the bucket....Cereal, fruit and vegis, paper towels, desserts, alcohol (Hennessy,Grey goose) and Marlboro lights were wiped out clean. I walked the club when we closed that night and I could see the empty steel beams that once held rice, beans, and other food. Yesterday was much weird but more calmer. California issues a 250 person capacity for our club, but we got it down to 150. I open the store, get all of us workers get into a huddle, and kind of brief them was going to happen today. There's already a line forming this morning (some members got in line outside as early as 4am! :o Its now 7am, and I tell everyone waiting outside that we are taking in several members at a time in the club, so, I let maybe 50 people come in ,close the front door, then wait for the exit door workers to let some members out, then let some more members in at a time again, etc! Next thing you know, fists are flying! 2 grown ass men fighting in line (from what I heard someone cut the other in line) and so I call the police, and they came in like 10 minutes and stayed there for a few hours just to see things were under control. After that incident, the club ran smooth the whole day! Less complaints, customers were chatty, and really put some ease into my workday. I pretty much stayed till 10pm because the club was still in bad shape. I have a great crew and I made sure they got rewarded for their hard work, especially the ones who work overnight (our heroes)
Im off today and tommorrow thank god. But I try not to look into the news. I'm currently trying to find any store that has ground beef or any meat to fill my fridge.
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 15, 2020, 01:50
But before you judge the ignorant drunkards above, I also plan to be going back to the rejoin the 70mm film festival that I had previously been participating, tomorrow. They're capping attendance at 250 people inside of a 700 person theatre but enforcing heightened sanitizing measures along with encouraging patrons to practice "social distancing" in their spacious theatre.
Bring a hazmat suit! Hope you get free concessions for your 'Contagion' cosplay!
On a personal note Bosco, I am sorry for the passing of your uncle. I hope you and your family/relatives find peace and solace when all of you meet.
Quote from: sandelic on Mar 15, 2020, 22:38
I would guess people are still remembering lack of stuff during the war and react like this.
It's a strange thing. Then there was no stuff to buy and people where much calmer about it.
Now they stack unnecessary amount of stuff just to feel safe, I guess.
Funny thing is, as much as people claim they are worried about this virus, cafe bars and shopping malls are stacked with people, where you can't enforce 1m rule. It's crazy.
We had people try to sneak up to the register to buy 2 packs of TP, but we told them(and they know this) that its limit one per person. Even if we scanned it twice, the screen will prompt the cashier 'limit one per member' I personally just buy what I need, but im less of a paper goods type of guy and do my shopping around every three weeks.
As for the malls, there's one that's next to me that is losing money anyway,so they need to stay afloat because they'll be damned if they they close the whole place down. Its a very busy mall where I do my only shopping for clothes and kicks. I'm not going there anytime soon, and I can sacrifice my weekly Cinnabon.
Look at this chump :)) justice served
https://www.today.com/news/brothers-who-hoarded-17-700-bottles-hand-sanitizer-forced-donate-t176028
Damn Bosco, I'm sorry to hear of your loss.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss, Bosco. I hope you and your family are able to help carry each other through this period.
I also hope everyone doesn't get caught up in panic. Sounds like some people are freaking out.
I know we will get through this--this too, shall pass.
I appreciate all the condolences guys. But I was really just sharing another angle on how complicated things get with "normal" functions amidst this pandemic.
As for an update, the funeral/mass has been privatized and a larger tribute/gathering will occur at a later date. It's strictly his kids (6) and their spouses, my Aunt (the widow) and My Mom and Dad, who will partake in the funeral this Thursday. All of his grandchildren (12) and nieces and nephews (10+, me included) are not allowed. And from what I gathered everyone out of state was told to stay home, too.
So yeah, the crowd has been reduce by a lot, which I'm happy to hear.
Inchemwetrust, thanks for putting in the hard work at the warehouse stores. I got family that are working the local grocery chains here in Illinois and they're having to deal with the pandemonium too, let alone being at high risk of exposure.
Keep that cash flow coming, and stay healthy. Salute, brotha!
How is everyone doing? It's been an unusually quiet day on the forum today.
My wife and I had to make the very tough decision to close our community ceramics studio today. We've been back and forth trying to figure out what to do with the current situation and were kind of waiting for some kind of enforcement from our state Governor, but, with everything that we're seeing, and what looks like the trajectory we are headed - we decided to try and make a responsible decision and start preparing for people being stuck at home and unable to work in our space.
It's scary - the majority of our income is made up of monthly memberships and classes, all of which we are having to be suspended, basically until further notice.
On the one hand, I could really do with a forced break from the studio, some time to grind a few video games, watch some movies, maybe start writing some music again?
On the other hand, I'm seeing this country continuing to try and go about its day as if everything is OK, which scares me for the people who aren't going to be able to just hunker down and chill at home. Portland has a very strong community of small businesses and it's truly heart warming to see all of the support that is being shared around in an effort to help each other out. But I know there's only so much people are able to help. And there are businesses that I don't even know exist that are going to be hit hugely by all of this - their families as a result of that - and it's difficult to try to find the right ways to give back - and also whether to when you're in a situation that doesn't allow you. I don't need to tell you how all of this begins to gradually impact everyone on some level. It's a sad situation that I can only hope continues to bring out the best in all of us.
My personal plan for the coming weeks is to make list of the things that are important to me, and that I would be devastated to see go at the end of all of this, and then figure out what and how much I can give to try and support those places.
Interestingly I received an email from The Cat Empire today - not a band I still listen to a whole bunch, but one I have definitely enjoyed a lot over the years - their email encouraged people in self quarantine to stream as much of their favourite artists as possible to try and help bands who have had to cancel tours, festivals, whole months of planning and expected revenue. Those kinds of responses to this situation are things I'm really excited to see more of, and I hope we can all take stock of what it really important to us and try to support those things in whatever way we can.
Obviously none of this comes even close to the severity of the disease itself, and the potential risk on the population. I was being a sad sack and using this time to focus on another hugely depressing aspect of the whole outbreak... for some reason.
Anywho. I'm grateful for this place to be able to talk, share, laugh and think, and my thoughts go out to all of you.
Please stay safe, call and check in with people that are important to you, and let's keep our heads up.
Thanks for sharing Enjoyed. I absolutely hate hearing small business having to make tough decisions like this. Maybe you can multipurpose your turntable into a temporary pottery wheel, and then continue to conduct lessons online. :P
A homemade kiln on the other hand, no bueno.
But seriously, best of luck to you guys. I'm hoping this blows over so you can open the doors and get back to business as soon as possible.
That is a tough break, Enjoyed. I'm glad you and your wife have each other. I also like what you've said about streaming artists.
To be honest the feelings I'm having over this whole pandemic - the uncertainty and grimness of it all and how it has affected our ways of life on a personal scale to our community to the world at large - have been so extremely difficult for me to process.
I just hope you all are OK and I'm glad you're here to check in.
Completely agree. For me personally, it's the not knowing that I'm finding the hardest to deal with. The administration should have just locked everything down for a month and then everything would have been hit at the same time and we all could have dealt with the situation together. Instead, we have this limbo of staggered closings - will I be forced to stay home? Can I go buy coffee to go? Will I be able to work next week. A decision needs to be made, and stuck to, and then we can focus on how to get things back to normal afterwards.
A little update on the supporting music side of things - Bandcamp is waiving their revenue share for all sales made from midnight to midnight tomorrow (Friday, March 20th), in case anyone was interested in finding some musicians they want to support and purchasing some music directly from the artist.
More information is here (https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/bandcamp-covid-19-fundraiser).
Some advices to help stop the virus from spreading:
- Stay at home, as much as you can. Even if you feel good, you might have the virus and you can pass it to others, that might not be as lucky as you
- Only go out if you absolutely have to: for first necessity grocery shopping, going to the pharmacy, to the doctor, etc
- If you do go out, go to the closest place from your home. And stick to that place for the rest of the lockdown. This will limit the number of people you will come across. The probability of people in your vicinity being the same state as you (infected of not infected) is much higher, so don't go spreading the virus (or catching the virus) in the neighbour town.
- Make everyone understand the importance of these rules. The more people stay at home, the better it will work and the shorter it will last.
- Of course, always follow the basic hygiene rules stated in the first post. Limit direct contact with other people, keep your distance, wash your hands when you come back from outside
At the start of this year I landed my first remote web development contract, and turned it into a continued position / extended contract with the company in early February. It's difficult, I feel out of my depth all of the time, but every day it's hitting me harder just how unbelievably lucky I am to have gotten this job when I did. Remote work turned from a luxury to a necessity in the space of a week. Half of everyone I know is losing their jobs in the service & entertainment industries and looking at being only a few weeks away from missing bills. I'm scared how much this is going to damage the (already fragile) economy here stateside. On the other hand, one of my other good friends is a nurse - no shortage of work, but she's already starting to lose her sanity, and she's not in a place that's been hard hit yet. Trying to come up with some sort of care package for her.
Bosco, I don't even know what to say. Earlier I was lamenting the loss of the last few concerts I'd been planning on campus for this spring and your story put that in perspective... and it's difficult to think of just how many people are watching loved ones pass, will watch loved ones pass, without the traditional chance to grieve. Over 600 dead today in Italy alone.
InChem, keep up the good work. Hope you get more chances to see the best of humanity and not the worst.
Enjoyed, that's unbelievably rough, to not just lose your source of income but to have to voluntarily shut down something I know brings you and Alexa a lot of joy. I'm buying some of your Shoes Off releases tonight - didn't you have an EP of tracks you made exclusively from samples of Wicked? Gonna miss the deadline on that, but searching.
This is all really, really surreal.
Hope everyone is OK. Just the fact that this could go on for a while too is a real downer. The way people are behaving over this does not help at all and makes it worse. The same thing is happening in OZ. Empty supermarkets and theres even restrictions now in pharmacies.Theres an incentive by major supermarkets to allow the elderly and disabled to only shop in the supermarkets for the first hour of opening every day now so they get a chance to get whatever bare necessities they can get on the day.
Australia has closed off international entry now to non citizens but we are not in full lockdown yet.... Some restaurants, cafes, and venues etc. have voluntarily closed and offering delivery service instead to survive. (Due to the no more than 100 people inside rule). Theres still some rules and allowance that contradict each other by the Government like still having gyms open and some sport. I'm considering freezing or just cancelling my membership its too risky. I tried working from home but its just too busy and insane and have to be on site. which means getting a tram through the CBD which is not ideal. If you're lucky to still have a job you're probably experiencing a crazy workload or struggling in some sort of capacity because of the ripple effect of this.
Well its official. Me working in a hotel environment it was bound to happen at some point. No, neither me or my family have the virus thank god, but in our county just 4 days ago, our first case has hit, and as of now, 3 deaths have occured.
this morning, the boss broke the news that on monday, we'll be packing up and shutting down until as early as late april. we recieved a letter from the higher up on payday last friday giving us the memo about standard safety precautions (washing hands, wearing gloves and mask, ETC) and its ok to be concerned but don't be scared. they specifically mentioned about shutting down as a last resort, and today they had no choice but to turn the key and announce shut down.
Boss suggested filing for unemployment money to keep up on rent, and our current pay will be given to us on the 3rd. She also gave us her personal phone for further questions.
On the bright side, it'll give me enough time to take care of important stuff that I haven't even started yet. (Deep clean my entire house, stock up on food incase of quarentine, build a new PC, Family business)
We here are in complete lockdown, and on top of that, we just had 5.3 earthquake, not hour ago, some 10km from where I live...
I've never jumped out of bed faster in my life, I don't mind telling you!
Quote from: sandelic on Mar 22, 2020, 06:56
We here are in complete lockdown,
Does that mean all the shops are shut, so you can't buy food?
Quote from: sandelic on Mar 22, 2020, 06:56
and on top of that, we just had 5.3 earthquake, not hour ago, some 10km from where I live...
I've never jumped out of bed faster in my life, I don't mind telling you!
Shit, that's too much. I would say "stay safe" but that expression is starting to sound a bit empty, I fear.
Quote from: sandelic on Mar 22, 2020, 06:56
We here are in complete lockdown, and on top of that, we just had 5.3 earthquake, not hour ago, some 10km from where I live...
I've never jumped out of bed faster in my life, I don't mind telling you!
Holy shit! How terrifying! I am glad you are all right. I would imagine you are having aftershocks and hopefully they are not too severe. Stay safe x ❤️
Damn, this is horrible. I am just reading that the aftershock was almost as severe. Lots of damage to old artifacts and buildings and at least one fatality of a young teenager. Stay safe overthere!
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 22, 2020, 13:08
Does that mean all the shops are shut, so you can't buy food?
Shops selling food are still open, and are working from 08h-17h.
Traveling between cities (using public transport) is in completely shut down, and in city you can travel only if you work in essential businesses, everyone else must stay at home.
Many hospitals are barely working because damage done by earthquake is pretty substantial. People are on the streets despite corona-virus, for fear of another earthquake and many are not sure if they can even return to their flats, because it seems that many buildings are damaged so much they are deemed unsafe to live in.
Last earthquake this big was 140 years ago. We simply don't have that many quakes in this part of the world.
First one was 5.5 and lasted for 10 second, second only 30 min later was just as bad, if shorter. Many followed after.
I've never felt earthquake until today.
What a truly unnerving experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbPjXELev1Y
Csar, fortunately, no one was killed in this quake; one 15-year old girl was critically wounded and is still fighting for her life. Amazingly, only she was injured. Most attribute this to corona lock-down, early hours of this event and fact that it's Sunday, when most people are in their homes.
If it were later in the day, when people walk around for one reason or the other, I'm afraid there would be many more injured, if not killed. In this mess, it's hard to fight against spreading of coronavirus, and that alone is frighting thought.
On a lighter note, I made two Chemical Brothers playlist to help you know what to do and what not to do during the lockdown :
What not to do:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2WKAJ2RvAcUoMN7wO7P0Yv
What to do:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Zrel8QLlbwKNFwVaC8976
I don't know about y'all, but I'm starting to notice grocery stores removing sales ads and are starting to price gouge. I can understand the removal of store ads/sales because there really is no competition right now, and no reason to blow money on advertising when you're basically the epicenter of commerce. But the additional price gouging is something that needs to be addressed by our government. Especially since the public has been assured there is no food shortage, or essential needs shortage.
That being said, my family members who work at grocery stores are being paid an additional $2 an hour while we are in this Coronavirus bubble. Which is nice, but they are severely underpaid in the first place.
I'm not convinced this evens out. Restaurateurs have to be furious.
Agreed, there should be no profiting in this situation. I've seen food prices go up when fuel prices rise, but gas is cheaper now than it has been in ages...
My son works for a small Italian grocery chain. Not a major store but still essential and still impacted. He's worked there nearly 2 years and makes barely above our county minimum wage.
This pandemic has brought to light things in the US that will need to be addressed once we make it through: M4A, increased minimum wages, paid sick leave, and sensible social nets to help those who've lost jobs.
It's so scary out there. US cases are skyrocketing just as we've been warned. I hope you all are staying safe ❤️
I really don't know how long it is going to take to recover from this--everything I've read points to a huge shift in our way of life for a significant period of time even after the virus has swept the world.
I keep crossing my fingers that this is all somehow intentional and there is a bright silver lining to all of this. Namely, I hope that we see some huge, constructive shifts in how we in the United States manage our healthcare system. And I also hope that we see some justice in those who hid information in order to profit off insider knowledge of this pandemic.
But really I just want us all to be okay. It feels bad to think about everyone separated and isolated. This can't be good for our psychological health. My trip to the weed store today was a weird one--everyone is panicked, even when they're calm. Everyone is suspect of the slightest cough. Everyone is intent on judging others for their actions or lack of actions.
But at least I get to get high. Sweet.
Quote from: MadPooter on Mar 27, 2020, 01:51I really don't know how long it is going to take to recover from this--everything I've read points to a huge shift in our way of life for a significant period of time even after the virus has swept the world.
I keep crossing my fingers that this is all somehow intentional and there is a bright silver lining to all of this.
BC and AC , i've heard it said people will talk about this point in history as BC ( Before Coronavirus ) , and AC ( After Coronavirus ) , definately a huge shift and disruption to everybody's life in every country all over the world. There will need to be a world summit meeting after this for leaders to discuss action plans to ensure this never happens again. I don't even think we're halfway through it yet.
If you want to read how , why , where this Pandemic started . . https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/blame-china-and-xi-jinping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
Take care , stay safe people.
Hi everyone. I haven't checked in since prior to this post's creation. I am sorry so many of you are going through hardships. I'm fortunate that as of now, my family is healthy, my wife and I are working from home, and my kids's schools have closed until mid-May with online learning starting next week. With the exception of an emergency vet visit, we have been self-quarantined a little ahead of the curve over the rest of America. We're temporarily having groceries delivered, tipping WELL, and going through an OCD-like cleaning process as they come in. We are scared and careful but privilaged and fortunate to not be hurting like some.
The stupidity and willfulness of my countrymen has yet again showed it's ugly face, and many continue to ignore science. I am suffering a bit of derpression but I imagine everyone is struggling right now, even those without hisotires of emotional challendges. I regret staying away from the forum but my priorities have been stretched. The support for each other here is overwhelming. This is a great international group, and based on this threat, an intellignet one, too. But we already knew this.
If you want to read on, I want to talk about my work situation: I work IT in a medium sized law firm with prominent clients. I don't talk about work much on socila media for the obvious reasons, and honestly, even on a bad day I don't like to complain too loudly. But this forum is private and I haven't said this shit anywhere and it's driving me insane. They were assholes and wholly unprepared. My buddy and I in IT started pressing our management team about proactive plans in early February because we saw this coming. We were first dismissed as paranoid, and later, as insitgating unenssary panic. We told them it was inevitable that schools would close in weeks, and once the schools closed, we were not coming in. This again was dismissed as our firm was "carefully monitoring the situation". That day my buddy and I started writing up emergency documentation and recommending plans to get the staff ready to work from home: only 60% of our Firm (225 or so employees) had work-at-home capabilities as per Firm policy. As a side note, I was not allowed to work my shift from home...EVER...even though I routinely support afterhours and weekend OT for one or two weeks a month froim home: I'm only allowed to do it when it benefitds them. But I digress.
Fast forward to Thursday the 12th. My Firm still planned on staying open and there was no word from the shools yet, either. Although we had proactively written up documetation and proactive action plans to get the staff working from home, we were clearly taking a reactive response. We were told the info had been passed to the top and was under consideration with everything else, but they literally had us doing roll-out type work, training people on new systems that late in the game. I decided I wasn't going back in the next day and the kids were staying home as well as I felt a "call" was going to be made that weekend anyway (as a side note, I convinced them to let me work from home as a 'test' and they decided this was better than a call-out). My wife did the same. Sure enough, my kid's schools closed and my wife's job allowed her work from home. For mine...they still wnated people to report on Monday so we could 'prep' for closing on Tuesday. Let's say that again: WE NEED TO CLOSE FOR THIS SERIOUS VIRUS, BUT YOU NEED TO COME IN ONCE MORE AROUND YOUR PEERS! As an IT person, this meant a mad scramble of attorneys and staff coming to my desk for me to handle their laptops and mobile devices. The shit I had been asking to do for a month was now going to be rushed in a day, and locals were already sick. No thank you. My buddy and I both offered home support becasue our kids were home and it was granted, but that first week of remote IT support was hell. And if we didn't corrdinate together, whichever one would have gone in would have gotten all the shit work.
Fast forward to now. My kids are out until 5/15 but work wants us back on 4/15...extended from the originally proposed 3/27! 1/3 of the people are still going in despite the Governer closing down our state until 5/15, and the messaging continues that IT may have to be present if our attorneys invite out of state guests. FUCK THAT! You don't need me to be in that room or touch that shit. We shouldn't have guests right now at all. I could go on and on bitching about what my employer has done wrong, but I recognize I am fortunate to be working AND away from people. I will say this. My buddy and I who thought ahead and called out? They let us handle 200+ calls and email by ourselves in the first 2 DAYS: the entire rest of the IT was needed for people rusing down to the office...just like I predicted.
So that's been my little slice of heaven. I know people are sick and having trouble with food, so again, I consider myself lucky. But just yesterday I got in a debate with someone that thinks businesses are doing the best for their employees. They're not. Most certainly do not, and this is while our Congresspeople withheld info so they could profit on stocks. And my trying to convince people that all the relief policies they are looking for is exactly what Bernie Sanders and Democratic Socoialism stand for is met with debate, as if wanting governement support for themselves but not for everyone always isn't fucking evil.
So anyway, that's been my last two months...being trated like chicken litte while also still being expected to take the fallout I warned about. Fighting the onset of depression for 2 months has been hard.I haven't had a crash since my son was born: he literally keeps me sane and is my daily motivation. But this is certainly the darkest I've been in over a decade. And oh yeah, my Bernese/Poodle mix got injured in a freak accident in my house. So now I'm carry that 95 pound / 43 kilo puppy up and down stairs and outside for potty breaks. So agian, lots of bullshit, but good with all things considered. Thanks for reading.
I can't comprehend how China's Prime minister and President now see this as a foreign problem and are seemingly refusing any liability for the emergence of the Covid19 virus in their city of Wuhan 3 months ago. Worse still , yesterday , as Beijing celebrated its ' victory over Coronavirus ' , some of their filthy animal markets reopened with no attempt made to raise hygiene standards or change their way of working. The Daily Mail newspaper correspondent witnessed hundreds of people walking around a live/dead animal market in Guilin , south-west China , , terrified dogs , cats crammed into rusty cages , bats and scorpions offered for sale as traditional medicine , rabbits and ducks slaughtered and skinned side by side on a stone floor on top of filth , blood and other animal remains. This type of environment is the breeding ground for viruses , the type of virus that can mutate and jump from an animal , eg. bat , to a human , , and then we've got a Pandemic on our hands . . which is what we're all living through now. Surely world leaders are going to have to put pressure on China to change / re-structure / investigate its food supply methods , at the very least bring in strict hygiene standards at their animal markets.
Quote from: Fine Time on Mar 30, 2020, 05:23some of their filthy animal markets reopened with no attempt made to raise hygiene standards or change their way of working.
I don't know if I'm thinking too heavily about Chinese politics or ownership of this virus at this moment, but yes, their markets continue to be a global issue and an immediate change is certainly appropriate.
BTW....Any fans of World War Z? The novel by Max Brooks, not the shit film that has nothing to do with the book. For starters, the Brad Pitt character is not even in the book. No, he is not the main narrator. Avoid the movie and read the book.
A lot of people think it is a zombie story, but it's actually a socioenomicoc pandemic story written in the aftermath with narration of the event by dozens of sources. It starts in Asia...I believe China...and they try to hide it. Israel walls itself off. The U.S. displays overconfidence and arrogance and suffers for it. People act stupidly while others try to survive. By the end, the world has gone on but changed forever. I always thought it was a well written novel that got a lot of it correct. I never thought I'd have the perspective to verify how realistic this book could be.
If you're an audiobook fan, it is one of the best with dozens of voice actor narrators...including a surprise small but key part by Mark Hamill! Oops, spoiler. It's not obvious or billed...I heard it and looked it up.
If you're brave, give it a read. For me, I've never watched the film Contagion and don't think I can right now so I get it. I've thought about picking up WWZ again but may way for more perspective....
I'm just rereading the thread.
Bosco - I'm so sorry for your loss.
Inchem - Thanks for sharing your work story. That shit is both crazy and scary. People hoarding while others are waiting is bad enough, but a grown man getting into a fist fight KNOWING he cut the line is the low part of humanity we will continue to witness.
Sandelic - I was definitely thinking of you regarding the earthquake. As if there aren't enough worries.
Enjoyed - That's rough about the studio. Keep doing what's best for your family.
Conn6... - That sucks, I can't imagine.
Ben_j - Thanks for the positivity you are providing.
All of us have been affected so negatively. And for those of us watching the American President, there is little reason for hope. At least Canada, Germany, and France have some real leaders.
Quote from: Fine Time on Mar 30, 2020, 05:23
The Daily Mail newspaper correspondent witnessed hundreds of people walking around a live/dead animal market in Guilin , south-west China , , terrified dogs , cats crammed into rusty cages , bats and scorpions offered for sale as traditional medicine , rabbits and ducks slaughtered and skinned side by side on a stone floor on top of filth , blood and other animal remains.
No doubt China needs to take a long hard look at itself. Any country where such a virus originated should be inclined/obliged to do so. However I am always a little wary when the right wing Daily Mail "newspaper" looks to blame non white British people for...well, just about anything.
https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1244249809361555456
https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1244250401488220161
For those outside the UK, unfamiliar with The Daily Fail:
2017: Wikipedia bans Daily Mail as 'unreliable' source (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website)
https://twitter.com/davemacladd/status/1244318924088512519
(This final tweet didn't embed because: emojis, but it kinda sums up what the paper is like. If you're not of a white, christian, British background, it's blame-game time!)
Ok, this is funny...
https://twitter.com/Johnnyd23/status/1241904181775986689
https://twitter.com/Johnnyd23/status/1244822813560561665
Need a good laugh after my self-inflicted car accident yesterday. Rrr, the streets are almost empty and of all days yesterday I pull out of a parking lot rear-first and get struck by another car. I checked the street diligently three times and when I decided to finally get going a damn car comes up. Damn. Fortunately, no one was hurt, the driver was really laid back (it was a leasing car he had driven for only 2 hours that day) and the car is still operational because his speed was rather slow.
In these times, it's certainly not the most important thing to deal with, but, man, is this annoying. Never caused such a thing in my almost 20 years of driving. I'm really mad at myself.
Csar, it sounds like you did your part in practicing safe driving. It's amazing how a one-second lapse and a blind spot, can alter circumstances on the road or even in a parking lot.
I know situationally it's hard not to dwell on something like this, but don't let it drag you down.
#dontleavehome
Thanks, Bosco. Yeah, it's pretty sobering to know that sometimes things just happen no matter what you do. Let's see what the (in Germany mandatory) biannual car inspection, which is due next week, will turn up... Fingers crossed.
I can't call him any names now. He better get better.
Sad news about Pep Guardiola's mum today too.
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1247241845387735043
An active leading world official succumbing from Covid-19 would be game changing.
If he passes, I fear a massive cover-up could be in order to prevent the world economy from fully collapsing then it already has. No doubt we'll see he had such and such "preexisting condition", "he was stressed", he "didn't practice proper social distancing" or my favorite, he secretly enjoyed his monthly indulgence of "Bat Soup".
Quote from: Bosco on Apr 06, 2020, 21:35didn't practice proper social distancing
I think this one would be correct given the Houses of Parliament were still operating normally until a fortnight after the government advised everyone else to work from home where possible. It seems the building has proved to be one of the hotbeds of the virus in the UK!
Quote from: mc_marsh on Apr 10, 2020, 15:01
I think this one would be correct given the Houses of Parliament were still operating normally until a fortnight after the government advised everyone else to work from home where possible. It seems the building has proved to be one of the hotbeds of the virus in the UK!
Indeed. And furthermore...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3NAx3tsy-k
Looks like the Guardian is reporting the U.S. at 41,000 deaths. And it's likely that there are more deaths that could be attributed to our hospitals being at or beyond capacity in urban centers.
Thankfully it looks like things are slowing in places like New York, and California, where I am, has managed its shit pretty well.
Unfortunately, South Carolina is slated to "re-open" everything next week, and there are small, albeit very, very vocal protest groups in the U.S. trying to call for the immediate re-opening of all states.
After many years of sitting back and simply observing my fellow countrypersons, I can tell you that I predict that the U.S. is going to reach full herd-immunity. This means that likely we're going to see waves of outbreaks, and large numbers of people dying as hospitals keep reaching full capacity.
People in this country are, unfortunately, dumb. I wish I could say my country is being led by a responsible, informed, considerate leader, but nothing could be further from the truth.
The truth is that there was no plan. There was no response. Our leader has not responded. There was some orange-haired guy that thought he heard--somewhere--that hydroxychloroquine could possibly be effective in treating this thing, and without fully considering whether that was true he gambled that it was going to work and told people to munch away on pills.
It's very clear the economy of the United States is going to falter.
It's becoming unfortunately clear that the people who live in this country are going to help usher in a wave of deaths related to the coronavirus.
So things are going to get worse before they fully get better. It's only just started to get ugly.
I hope everyone out there is hanging in there. I don't want to be the harbinger of bad tidings, and honestly, above all else--I hope I am wrong.
But regardless of what happens, at the end of all this, there will be a light. The end of a tunnel always has light.
Quote from: MadPooter on Apr 20, 2020, 18:36
Looks like the Guardian is reporting the U.S. at 41,000 deaths. And it's likely that there are more deaths that could be attributed to our hospitals being at or beyond capacity in urban centers.
Thankfully it looks like things are slowing in places like New York, and California, where I am, has managed its shit pretty well.
Unfortunately, South Carolina is slated to "re-open" everything next week, and there are small, albeit very, very vocal protest groups in the U.S. trying to call for the immediate re-opening of all states.
After many years of sitting back and simply observing my fellow countrypersons, I can tell you that I predict that the U.S. is going to reach full herd-immunity. This means that likely we're going to see waves of outbreaks, and large numbers of people dying as hospitals keep reaching full capacity.
People in this country are, unfortunately, dumb. I wish I could say my country is being led by a responsible, informed, considerate leader, but nothing could be further from the truth.
The truth is that there was no plan. There was no response. Our leader has not responded. There was some orange-haired guy that thought he heard--somewhere--that hydroxychloroquine could possibly be effective in treating this thing, and without fully considering whether that was true he gambled that it was going to work and told people to munch away on pills.
It's very clear the economy of the United States is going to falter.
It's becoming unfortunately clear that the people who live in this country are going to help usher in a wave of deaths related to the coronavirus.
So things are going to get worse before they fully get better. It's only just started to get ugly.
I hope everyone out there is hanging in there. I don't want to be the harbinger of bad tidings, and honestly, above all else--I hope I am wrong.
But regardless of what happens, at the end of all this, there will be a light. The end of a tunnel always has light.
I feel with you, Poots. I've been following the US news closely for quite some time now, but this is beyond anything I could have possibly imagined. I don't want to get too political in here as I welcome everyone on the forum, but I will say this one thing anyway: The president of the United States of America is seriously mentally ill. I mean, there are currently thousands dying and Donald Trump is holding one unhinged "briefing"-turned-rally after another and is more concerned with the optics of his brand and ratings rather than the actual job he agreed to 3 years ago. The GOP is unwilling to take any action because they know they need him or at least know the political perils for themselves if they'd do something about it.
The most frustrating thing, as you point out, is that there are still people cheering and defending this bizarre behavior as if this was still just a political game of "my team vs. yours" rather than a matter of life and death - not realizing that they hurt themselves. Last week he undercut his newly announced re-opening policy in just one day when he called for liberation of various states. WTF? How can anyone defend such erratic demeanor? Seriously, during the last couple of these "covid-shows" I was about break my effing screen because facepalming apparently doesn't do it any longer.
It's truely unfathomable how far a society can sink in such a short period of time and it makes me even terrified of the thought that this might be happening again in my country, too (the writings are on the wall). The lunatics have taken over the asylum, facts have barely any impact or value anymore and appear to have been replaced by opinions and spin-stories.
Let's hope that the reasonable and sane voices in this dysfunct administration will prevail and help to overcome this crisis. It's really hard these days to remain optimistic... but I will. I will!
Hoooray, Austria is now leading worldwide in Covid19 incidence :-\ (positivity rate is also quite high, which suggests there are many more undetected cases)
In March, when the first wave really hit, our gouvernment acted fast with a full lockdown (well, at least after the utter failure at the first heavy hit regions in ski resorts in Tyrol, which helped spread Covid all over Europe). During the summer they could not congratulate themselves enough how well they handled the pandemic (our chancellor said that the health crisis is over and, in late August, that there is light at the end of the tunnel).
What they didn't do during the relatively mild summer months is to prepare in any way for a second wave, despite the warnings of pretty much every expert.
Which is why our world-class healthcare system is now at or near capacity limits and beginning next week we're under full lockdown.
I hope everyone stays healthy , please take this seriously, whear a mask, keep your distance and try to limit the number of people you have contact with as much as possible. I know this sucks, but it's the only way to slow the spread until vaccines become available.
Oh gosh. I'm so sorry to hear that, Stefan.
We continue to bear the burden of not only having to live our lives differently in order to protect those around us, but also to constantly worry about the folks who have decided they don't need to. We're entering another lockdown here in Portland. My parents at home in England are back in another lockdown. And there are still people out there calling it tyranny and a betrayal of their rights. They just aren't smart enough to correlate not doing their part with the fact that this will continue to suck until they do.
To echo your sentiments, please stay safe everyone. And as difficult as it is to stop worrying about the idiots who don't care, we can only control what we can control, and we should use all the mental energy we can to keep ourselves and our loved ones safe by doing the right things.
Quote from: Stefan on Nov 14, 2020, 17:58
Hoooray, Austria is now leading worldwide in Covid19 incidence :-\
Croatia took notice, thought "Well, that will never do!" and took action.
Now we are leading in Europe, if not world.
Baby steps, eh? ???
The first people I directly know (my grandma, a friend working at an elderly care home, another friend working at a hospital) have already received or are receiving their first dose of the Covid vaccine and I cannot express how happy I am about that.
I just booked the appointment for my first dose on Tuesday next week and I can't express how happy I am ;D
Congrats Stefan!
I just got my first dose this week! Hoping to do some pre-pandemic activities as soon as I get the second dose, but will be surveying every opportunity with caution.
Congrats to you as well!
Being cautious is surely very responsible. Tbh, I don't expect any changes in my behaviour*, having very good protection from a dangerous disease is already enough for me. I won't have full immunity from the vaccine until middle of August anyway.
*wearing a mask, seing only fery few people in person, shop online exept for groceries, avoid gartherings as much as possible, limit time on public transport, no indoor dining even if allowed, regular testing
And they just canceled the whole Opener here in poland for second year in the row, and I planned to went here and see the Chems
Fck u covid :')
Hearing how some of you guys are just getting access to the vaccine, it's downright embarrassing being an American. Despite our lack of socialized medicine, we've had availability at no cost since the early spring and have even been able to vaccinate children as young as 12 for a few months now. Yet, half the country is treating this as political or as a hoax, despite the facts and data, even with Delta hitting us hard. People are obnoxiously resistant to even the minimum precautions for others, let alone vaxxing themselves for the good of the community.
I'm fortunate that my entire family was able to get vaccinated from nearly the beginning: we were anxious about the 12 year old because we had to initially wait. Other than being mandated back to work and school, we are still practicing pandemic strategies: social distancing, no unnecessary shopping or public outings, and masks full time around others. We also clean our things and wash our hands with the fire of an OCD supernova ;D. Sure, the science is new and the science is changing, and yeah, it's scary when a vaccine can be developed in just a few months, put people need to get over themselves. Information has been out there for nearly half a year, but the problem is, they are following the mis-information. And sure, we don't know the long term affects...just like we don't REALLY know the LONG term effects of mobile phone use or contact lenses. We do, however, know the short term effects and the positives are overwhelming.
There is also conversation here about those who can't get it due to medical or "religious" concerns. Although the latter doesn't really strike a chord with my empathy, even that group is divided between who will skip the vax but take other precautions and who doesn't give a fuck if they get it or spread it. And the bottom line is we are forced back to work and school with these assholes (all the anti-vax/anti-maskers) because THEY want a return to normalcy but aren't willing to make simple adjustments. And for schools, they pretend kids can't get it but that's just not the case, and most cannot be vaccinated yet.
This pandemic was an opportunity for the world to change, and for my country to change. *W*e haven't even embraced Medicare For All / Socilaized Medicine after all this. Any chance for global unity during the upcoming climate crisis is hopeless. The world has failed the test, but I am glad to be part of this group of free-thinkers who are ALSO forward-thinkers. I'm so sick of the people making the least intelligent decisions calling those taking action "sheep".
Keep safe, everyone.
Well its official, my county made USA Today, for #1 in Delta cases in the united states. with that our governor made the announcement to reapply mask mandation (Even if you are vaccined). Time to not be able to see again, with my mask fogging up my glasses. :(
Quote from: Conn6orsuper117 on Aug 14, 2021, 00:40
Well its official, my county made USA Today, for #1 in Delta cases in the united states. with that our governor made the announcement to reapply mask mandation (Even if you are vaccined). Time to not be able to see again, with my mask fogging up my glasses. :(
Dude. Get yourself some of these (https://starks.com/products/face-masks/?keyword=&adtype=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwssyJBhDXARIsAK98ITTG-PFLb30DrG0VLwZ01Tv3ovW9wnwuDx5aKUrNxevA523qHMI2IdIaAhTUEALw_wcB). Great for glasses. I've even (accidentally) run them through the washing machine and there's no shrinkage or nuffin'.
I know it sucks to have them back on (we're in OR too) but it sucks way less than being responsible for what is happening in our hospitals at the moment.
I also recommend leaving your mask on a bar of nice smelling soap when you're not wearing it. Smells GREAT to put it back on 8)
This is why I'm sticking to outdoor gigs for now.
https://twitter.com/Sandyboots2020/status/1538966704117665792
(they = the friend of a friend, not NIN.)
Interesting choice of GIF in one of the many replies.
https://twitter.com/ampincivero/status/1539034527552749568
(Didn't embed because: emojis in name).
I see it's quite an easy-to-find GIF on twitter.
Oh also FYI:
https://twitter.com/BNNBreaking/status/1537761173847871488
https://twitter.com/ReicherStephen/status/1536301526901264384
https://twitter.com/paullewismoney/status/1538029833514389507
https://twitter.com/elisaperego78/status/1538219226443534336
https://twitter.com/sheencr/status/1536749674601783303
Quote from: Enjoyed on Sep 04, 2021, 22:32
Dude. Get yourself some of these (https://starks.com/products/face-masks/?keyword=&adtype=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwssyJBhDXARIsAK98ITTG-PFLb30DrG0VLwZ01Tv3ovW9wnwuDx5aKUrNxevA523qHMI2IdIaAhTUEALw_wcB). Great for glasses. I've even (accidentally) run them through the washing machine and there's no shrinkage or nuffin'.
I know it sucks to have them back on (we're in OR too) but it sucks way less than being responsible for what is happening in our hospitals at the moment.
I also recommend leaving your mask on a bar of nice smelling soap when you're not wearing it. Smells GREAT to put it back on 8)
Great little hack! Duke Cannon for some reason has a lasting scent even before you use it. If you buy a bar of their soap, you can literally smell the scent on you when you leave it!
As for masks and stuff, not a fan but if I have to mask at the SF show, so be it
Just be safe at the shows guys and girls!
I don't like to point fingers, but it's pretty obvious this is all
Wolkenkrabbers fault for bumping this thread...
https://twitter.com/chembros/status/1539660750255312897
This means that the show at Howard castle will most likely also be cancelled/rescheduled, I wouldn't be surprised if the festival in Poland next weekend is also affected.
Let's hope for a swift recovery for all!
This shit is not over, even if the world is acting like it :(
Quote from: Bosco on Jun 22, 2022, 17:34
I don't like to point fingers, but it's pretty obvious this is all
Wolkenkrabbers fault for bumping this thread...
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I noticed that Sonar splits itself into Sonar By Day and Sonar By Night. Both of them are a mixture of indoor and outdoor. The Chems gig was clearly indoors. I couldn't help wondering why Sonar didn't conisder making the whole festival outdoors. June in Europe is summertime after all.
Re: the Glastonbury DJ set. The above states covid in the band as well as crew. So if say, Tom has tested positive, I wonder if Ed would do the DJ set solo?..
Didn't Pooter say he was flying over from America for Castle Howard? If so, I wonder when he hops on his plane?
BTW it is "Castle Howard" rather than "Howard Castle". Sometimes the English do this. I don't know why; I'm not English!
Oh also there was a "Chemical Crew spotting" article in the Guardian back in February which I forgot to share here. It's about gigs in a time of Covid. The main pic should be recognisable to you all. And the Chemical crew member is probably recognisable to you too.
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1491417383004778499
Shakermaker is making the journey from the west coast of U.S. for Castle Howard, too.
They'll have a second shot with Portola, but yeah, a cancellation/postponement is a high possibility for them this weekend, unfortunately.
Quote from: Stefan on Jun 22, 2022, 17:45I wouldn't be surprised if the festival in Poland next weekend is also affected.
Don't you even dare
Damn man, I hope things are going to be OK. 😞
Quote from: Stefan on Jun 22, 2022, 17:45
I wouldn't be surprised if the festival in Poland next weekend is also affected.
Well, knowing our gov and restrictions, there's like 50/50 rn, but I hope, that they'll do perform here, for Kosek!
See (bad) news about Op'ener in Live Dates thread.
Enjoyed, and others who have had Covid, I hope You're doing ok.
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I had covid one month ago, and I'm still experiencing a variety of symptoms. I cough everyday, I often have sore muscles, swollen joints. And some days I feel much more tired than I should be. I hope those symptoms will fade away eventually, but I'm also scared they will persist, seeing how a lot of people suffer from long covid. Reading Wolkenkrabber's article is not reassuring either :-\
Quote from: Ben_j on Sep 01, 2022, 09:07
I had covid one month ago, and I'm still experiencing a variety of symptoms. I cough everyday, I often have sore muscles, swollen joints. And some days I feel much more tired than I should be. I hope those symptoms will fade away eventually, but I'm also scared they will persist, seeing how a lot of people suffer from long covid. Reading Wolkenkrabber's article is not reassuring either :-\
Same man. The coughing and general fatigue is such a weird thing to be experiencing when you're testing negative and are feeling pretty good in basically all other ways. My wife's taste and smell is still yet to return to normal, which is the worst thing. I described it yesterday as eating food that someone forgot to colour in. It's a deeply sad thing on top of the physical symptoms.
I think we contracted it from the zoo (thinking we were safe being outside the whole time - I think we underestimated the impact of being around so many kids). I was in the most pain I've been in for a long time. I couldn't swallow because of my 'sore' throat - so I couldn't sleep, or rest. I had to go to the doctors to get a steroid and 'magic mouth wash' prescription. It was rough and I highly recommend AVOIDING.
Really hope you start to feel back to normal sooner rather than later, Ben.
Stay safe everyone.
Damn, you guys. I'm sorry to read this has gotten you, my brothers..