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Forum => For That Beautiful Feeling => Topic started by: gfa2001 on Apr 27, 2023, 15:49

Title: All Of A Sudden
Post by: gfa2001 on Apr 27, 2023, 15:49
Thought i'd start a thread for this given its out at midnight local time.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: whirlygirl on Apr 27, 2023, 19:30
I'm super excited to hear this!
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Csar on Apr 27, 2023, 22:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiqObC0PWe0
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: whirlygirl on Apr 27, 2023, 23:09
Aw man! Sad face over here! I guess I just gotta be patient!

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Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Csar on Apr 27, 2023, 23:11
It's not yet Friday on your end.

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, though, tbh.
Title: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: chemdup on Apr 27, 2023, 23:16
Just dropped on Spotify.

Holy shit it's a banger.

Listen to it loud.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 27, 2023, 23:21
Happy face here. Liking this. I can think of several Chems albums that have tracks less enjoyable than this.

A bit more vocals might make this more of an "A grade" track. The vocal sounds like it's been chopped/edited from something else. A vocal recorded for the Chems...or nah?

The track really gets going around 1:58 when the extra percussion (shaker?) sound comes in. Feels very dancable.
The sound that I previously thought was claps is not claps. It sounds like one of those bird sound presets (https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/474-anaconda-pacific-state-sueno-latino-and-the-story-of-a-sample-that-keeps-coming-back/) on old synths from the late 80s/early 90s. I think. But I could be wrong.
It's noticably longer than its A-side partner, and feels like a "having fun with a synth in the studio" kinda thing.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Csar on Apr 27, 2023, 23:32
Well... I can see it as a filler in a DJ set and maybe that's all it's supposed to do. It's got some nice sound effects here and there but other than that.. This feels more like RAR jamming session track than a Chems production. First time I skipped through a Chems track..
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: mesamm99 on Apr 28, 2023, 04:10
Can't help but love the backwards bits. Been a fan of the chems doing that since Surrender. 
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Ak_30 on Apr 28, 2023, 06:53
For me, it's a typical B-Side Track. It sounds great.
Title: Re: All of a sudden
Post by: sandelic on Apr 28, 2023, 08:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ_iLTzp_yU
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 28, 2023, 08:12
There's already a thread in the Xdust12 section
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: gfa2001 on Apr 28, 2023, 09:25
Quote from: Csar on Apr 27, 2023, 23:32
Well... I can see it as a filler in a DJ set and maybe that's all it's supposed to do. It's got some nice sound effects here and there but other than that.. This feels more like RAR jamming session track than a Chems production. First time I skipped through a Chems track..
bold is bang on - it did sound great in the DJ sets.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: sneakerbeater on Apr 28, 2023, 10:07
Taking me back to the printworks!

RIP Printworks 
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: whirlygirl on Apr 28, 2023, 13:56
I enjoy this. Only listened in full once so far and my first impression is it does feel a bit like a loop and does have a late-night studio jam session feel as well, as others pointed out. Going back to the vids posted with this track, can see why it is a recipe for success out on the dance floor! It's a solid b-side and good companion to No Reason.  I didn't get a battle weapons grade vibe from this (maybe I was weirdly expecting that??) but still solid and clean nonetheless. Agree with the comment about the backwards sounding bits!! I think there will be plenty to discover with more listens for sure. 
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: Csar on Apr 28, 2023, 17:46
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 28, 2023, 08:12
There's already a thread in the Xdust12 section
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Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Bosco on Apr 28, 2023, 19:46
I thought the intro sounded pretty promising. It gave me that tingling feeling like something good was around the corner... but kinda left a bit disappointed.

It's definitely a b-side, and one I won't mind listening to again. I don't deny its energy, however Chems are able to harness energetic tracks and make an adventure out of them, and this isn't one of them, imo.

better than Work Energy Principle by a million miles
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 28, 2023, 20:00
Quote from: Csar on Apr 28, 2023, 17:46
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Heh, I was getting ready to go to the dentist this morning when I wrote that - and I knew it wasn't going to be a good visit because my tooth was hurting (no, I don't want to discuss how it went). So my 8am approach wasn't the most subtle.

Having said that, I thought you Germans liked a bit of efficiency. And my sentence couldn't have been much more efficient in conveying its message. Not that I'm trying to stereotype you Csar*. Croatians (or one of them) on the other hand, might be displeased with me...

*yes, yes I am trying to stereotype you. I am a bad man.
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: ThePumisher on Apr 28, 2023, 20:13
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 28, 2023, 20:00
I am a bad man.

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Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: inchemwetrust on Apr 29, 2023, 02:55
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 27, 2023, 23:21
A bit more vocals might make this more of an "A grade" track. The vocal sounds like it's been chopped/edited from something else. A vocal recorded for the Chems...or nah?
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I agree! its a great track for its simplicity, but more vocals could've raised it up a bit if it was more scattered on the track. 

Overall, its really a clubish stomper. It has some weight and doesn't feel repetitive. Like Bosco said, way better than WEP!
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Nekcore on Apr 29, 2023, 06:07
Solid track in my opinion. Nothing too fancy, but it works quite well. I don't know why, but also, it gives me some EBW 9 vibes
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: sandelic on Apr 29, 2023, 06:30
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 28, 2023, 20:00
Heh, I was getting ready to go to the dentist this morning when I wrote that - and I knew it wasn't going to be a good visit because my tooth was hurting (no, I don't want to discuss how it went). So my 8am approach wasn't the most subtle.

Having said that, I thought you Germans liked a bit of efficiency. And my sentence couldn't have been much more efficient in conveying its message. Not that I'm trying to stereotype you Csar*. Croatians (or one of them) on the other hand, might be displeased with me...

*yes, yes I am trying to stereotype you. I am a bad man.
This one does not mind.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Bosco on Apr 29, 2023, 06:58
Quote from: Nekcore on Apr 29, 2023, 06:07
it gives me some EBW 9 vibes
oh most definitely. When I first heard clips of this track from some of the DJ sets, I just assumed it was EBW 9. Then again, I wasn't a huge fan of EBW 9, and really haven't revisited it until now to see how similar it is to 'All of Sudden'. Turns out they're pretty different, but I can hear how there is a correlation. 
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: Csar on Apr 29, 2023, 10:33
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 28, 2023, 20:00
Not that I'm trying to stereotype you Csar*
So, how did your dentist appointment go?

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We're also direct and annoyingly blunt and ignorant
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 29, 2023, 11:53
^ When we heard the first brief insta clip in 2021, and before we knew if it was actually Chemical, my hunch was that it probably was Chemical because the synth reminded me of another EBW - see below. It still kinda does (see also 2:28 in the above AOAS video). Just me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-WvtmmQtE

Or the bit around 7:12 here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsI_biC1YZg

PS: I won't hear a word against EBW9 or WEP. I love those excursions into "underground" territory. If everything sounded as pop-y as TDTYF I would be v sad.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Bosco on Apr 29, 2023, 16:53
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Apr 29, 2023, 11:53
EBW9 or WEP. I love those excursions into "underground" territory. If everything sounded as pop-y as TDTYF I would be v sad.
Fair enough. 

And I think TDTYF is a beautifully conceptualized track, even if a bit more accessible than normal.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Stefan on Apr 29, 2023, 17:49
Solid Track! It makes you feel instantly teleported to a club rave.

That the Chems manage to create a wide variety of music, from underground stompers to psychedelic anthems to mellow pop tracks is probably one of the reasons why they manage to remain interesting, even after 30 years.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Enjoyed on Apr 29, 2023, 22:08
It's like if The Rock Drill and Clip Kiss had a baby.

I'm diggin' it!
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: rynostar on Apr 30, 2023, 01:05
Quote from: Enjoyed on Apr 29, 2023, 22:08
It's like if The Rock Drill and Clip Kiss had a baby.

I'm diggin' it!
Both The Rock Drill and Clip Kiss are 16 years and are of legal age of consent in many places...

Still think this is a banger. Agree with the underground b-side sentiment above. Feel like this "might" be playable at Berghain.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Csar on Apr 30, 2023, 21:43
Sometimes the bros are an enigma to me. I mean, they're happy to release this rather underdeveloped track but aren't happy to release either one of these:

Track from the Warehouse Project 2013 (This melody!! Damn, it's been 10 years already!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3WLZ9SUlbY

Problem/Question (my gosh, that 8 bit melody alone. Damn, it's been even 17 years by now!!!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0zrp5JhyAU

Heck, I would even be fine with them being unfinished if I could eventually listen to them in some proper audio quality! Just one time, pleeeease!!
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Bosco on Apr 30, 2023, 23:49
@Csar 

I understand your disappointment, but I mean, ultimately Tom and Ed choose what they want to release.

You/we need to consider that some of these ancient and unfinished tracks that have been caught on video by fans/clubbers, weren't really meant to be heard by anyone other than the audience that showed up for that night. I think it's a bit unfair to take small glimpses of potentially unreleased material (beloved bits included) and determine what is worthy of releasing or not.

Anyways, AOAS is a B-side. With that fact, there's not a whole lot to get upset about. And if you want me to take this a step further, I'm not a huge fan of the A-side either. Still not a call for concern in my mind.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Csar on May 01, 2023, 16:04
Quote from: Bosco on Apr 30, 2023, 23:49
. I think it's a bit unfair to take small glimpses of potentially unreleased material (beloved bits included) and determine what is worthy of releasing or not.
You are of course right and I certainly would never dare to tell them what to do or not to do, but this just popped into my head knowing what's still lying behind their sofa somewhere.

Quote from: Bosco on Apr 30, 2023, 23:49
weren't really meant to be heard by anyone other than the audience that showed up for that night.
I believe the Bros were at least confident enough to give Erol Alkan and Fake Blood a copy of Problem/Question, perhaps with strings attached, I don't know.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on May 03, 2023, 11:19
but they can't release problem / question..if they did that, how would we keep dreaming about it forever..?
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: sneakerbeater on May 03, 2023, 12:57
Superflash!
Title: Re: All of a sudden
Post by: 𝒥𝑅𝒮𝒵 on May 07, 2023, 18:31
Waiting nearly half of the track's lenght to hear the titular sample is kinda killing me, but the track itself is a really nice ebw-worthy techno-ish banger B) 
Title: Re: All of a sudden (second topic merged)
Post by: ThePumisher on May 07, 2023, 19:16
Quote from: ThePumisher on Mar 11, 2023, 00:05
Two parallel threads about the same song. Can we merge them and change keep the topic title to just "No Reason  All Of A Sudden" because of my inner Monk?

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Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: ThePumisher on May 25, 2023, 15:08
Have to say i'd listen to AOAS twice as much as i listen to the a-side.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: satur8 on Jun 01, 2023, 14:43
I like when the Brothers put out instrumentals as compared to the frequent pop & indie collaborations designed to make songs sound more radio friendly. I mean, I enjoy both styles, and I loved No Geography, but you wouldn't hear me complaining if we got an 2023-style album in the template of Exit Planet Dust where the beats and instrumentals are the focus over the vocals. And both this and No Reason give that vibe, so no complaints from me.

For this track, it's fine, but I prefer Work Energy Principle.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: gfa2001 on Jun 02, 2023, 10:08
Quote from: satur8 on Jun 01, 2023, 14:43
I like when the Brothers put out instrumentals as compared to the frequent pop & indie collaborations designed to make songs sound more radio friendly. I mean, I enjoy both styles, and I loved No Geography, but you wouldn't hear me complaining if we got an 2023-style album in the template of Exit Planet Dust where the beats and instrumentals are the focus over the vocals. And both this and No Reason give that vibe, so no complaints from me.

For this track, it's fine, but I prefer Work Energy Principle.
I would say No Reason is far more vocal focused than All of a Sudden surely?
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: satur8 on Jun 05, 2023, 14:52
Quote from: gfa2001 on Jun 02, 2023, 10:08
I would say No Reason is far more vocal focused than All of a Sudden surely?

Oh yes, I agree. But IMO, it is definitely heavier on the dancefloor vibe than the top 40 feel of a radio single, if you know what I mean.

I certainly could have worded my thoughts differently.
Title: Re: All Of A Sudden
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 13, 2023, 18:06
Was listening to a catch-up of Pete Tong's show from 19th May (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001lpcp) earlier on the BBC Sounds app, and on came All Of A Sudden.

At the end, Tong said "taken from the forthcoming album..."
I don't know if he knows more than us or less than us.

You can also listen to a Mixcloud upload of the show embedded into the website 1001 Tracklists.com (https://www.1001tracklists.com/tracklist/23gx4z71/pete-tong-nic-fanciulli-bedouin-global-dance-hq-2023-05-19.html). Track is at 24 mins, Tong talks at 28 mins.