Anyone ever come across a VHS labeled "Chemical Brothers Live 1997"? It's audience footage from a right hand (facing the stage) balcony? Definitely a full show, definitely a 1997 show, and IIRC, it was billed as being a NYC show, though it's not made clear on any of the packaging.
Anyway, I got ahold of a copy around 2000 and have only watched it once, with an eye towards digitizing it eventually. But here we are in 2019, and everything I spent so much effort looking for in the late 90s/early Aughts is already digitized and uploaded to YouTube or SoundCloud or *something* out there, and I thought I'd check and see if anyone else has come across this footage in digital form before I bite the bullet and pay for the service or invest in equipment myself. My Google-Fu is strong, but I haven't been able to turn up any indication of this recording, in video or audio form, existing anywhere on the internet in 2019.
Sounds quite interesting. Does it look sort of professional or like a private recording?
If you think the quality would justify it and it wouldn't mean too much of financial burden, it would be cool if you could digitalize it?
It's definitely an amateur recording. I'm definitely going to digitize it (it has the proto-HBHG!). Just wanted to try and double-check that it's not already out there digitally before I do so (literally just this morning found another VHS that I intended to digitize already on YouTube).
Quote from: Crotor on Jun 11, 2019, 22:55(it has the proto-HBHG!)
Oh damn.
No, this doesn't exist online anywhere. The
only footage of this live out there is audio from Osaka 1997.
Quote from: Crotor on Jun 11, 2019, 22:55
It's definitely an amateur recording. I'm definitely going to digitize it (it has the proto-HBHG!). Just wanted to try and double-check that it's not already out there digitally before I do so (literally just this morning found another VHS that I intended to digitize already on YouTube).
Do it!
How much does it cost to do? Perhaps we can all chip in a couple of bucks to help.
Quote from: neorev on Jun 12, 2019, 04:06
Do it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4eScf6TMaM
Quote from: Crotor on Jun 11, 2019, 22:55
(literally just this morning found another VHS that I intended to digitize already on YouTube).
Curious about this one (Chems or not). Link?
I have said VHS. It's shown in the pic I sent a while back of my collection. I have ripped the audio from it years ago. It's a decent audio, but very late 90s quality of the audio/video.
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 16, 2019, 16:11
I have said VHS. It's shown in the pic I sent a while back of my collection. I have ripped the audio from it years ago. It's a decent audio, but very late 90s quality of the audio/video.
can you send a link?
I don't have it on the internets. Suppose I could figure out how to do that when I have time later today. Here are pics of the VHS.
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 16, 2019, 17:27
I don't have it on the internets. Suppose I could figure out how to do that when I have time later today. Here are pics of the VHS.
:o Bruh! you gotta get that footage ripped for youtube ASAP!
Lordy, there are tapes!
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 16, 2019, 17:27
Here are pics of the VHS.
Wow! it exists!
have my popcorn ready
I can't be the only one who has this. I've owned this thing for years. I have it in audio ripped only. Not sure how I can rip the video, but will look into it.
Quote from: neorev on Jun 12, 2019, 04:06Do it!
How much does it cost to do? Perhaps we can all chip in a couple of bucks to help.
It looks gorgeous, I'm in :)
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 16, 2019, 23:06
I can't be the only one who has this. I've owned this thing for years. I have it in audio ripped only. Not sure how I can rip the video, but will look into it.
can you PM me the audio so I can post it on the archive (I will credit you)
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 16, 2019, 23:06
I can't be the only one who has this. I've owned this thing for years. I have it in audio ripped only. Not sure how I can rip the video, but will look into it.
I'd love a copy of the audio. I love listening to live shows. I have a bunch on my SD card for driving.
I have a cable like this for VHS tapes. Works perfectly for capturing tapes!
https://www.amazon.com/REDGO-Video-Capture-Converter-Adapter/dp/B01E5ITE2W/ref=sr_1_4?crid=64QW2G0F7M9A&keywords=vhs+to+digital+converter&qid=1560817218&s=gateway&sprefix=VHS+%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-4
Thanks for the note on how to pull the video. I'll work on making that happen. Going to play dumb here, but assuming I need some sort of software to pull the video from. Any suggestions?
FYI, I've shared the audio with Conn6orsuper117 to load to youtube. Enjoy!! It's the full set from beginning to end!! Just re-listened to it over the weekend and it's much a better quality than I remember.
**just looked at the link... I see it comes with software, however, I am on a mac and it doesn't look compatible for that. Any other suggestions?
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 18, 2019, 02:34
Thanks for the note on how to pull the video. I'll work on making that happen. Going to play dumb here, but assuming I need some sort of software to pull the video from. Any suggestions?
FYI, I've shared the audio with Conn6orsuper117 to load to youtube. Enjoy!! It's the full set from beginning to end!! Just re-listened to it over the weekend and it's much a better quality than I remember.
**just looked at the link... I see it comes with software, however, I am on a mac and it doesn't look compatible for that. Any other suggestions?
here's one for 20 dollars that works with both
https://www.amazon.com/DIGITNOW-Capture-Converter-Digital-Windows/dp/B07H287NRC/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2VLTATADETF1W&keywords=vhs+to+digital+converter+mac&qid=1560827928&s=gateway&sprefix=vhs+to+digital+converter+mac%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-6
Quote from: mesamm99 on Jun 18, 2019, 02:34
FYI, I've shared the audio with Conn6orsuper117 to load to youtube. Enjoy!! It's the full set from beginning to end!! Just re-listened to it over the weekend and it's much a better quality than I remember.
Thank you so freaking very much! good stuff here!
Edit: I take LSD is my fave from this set (influenced from the miami bass genre perhaps)
linky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HrgoNx0RK4
FYI all, I'm having the tape digitized professionally. I'll make the files available when I have them. Should be getting it sent off this week - would've prior to this but was facing some medical hijinks.
I can't thank you enough for your awesomeness.
wow, you're a champ, thanks so much!
Quote from: Crotor on Jul 01, 2019, 02:38
FYI all, I'm having the tape digitized professionally. I'll make the files available when I have them. Should be getting it sent off this week - would've prior to this but was facing some medical hijinks.
Any update on this?
Not yet. But I haven't forgotten about y'all. Should be happening soon.
Found this on DAT while cleaning out the storage unit....
https://soundcloud.com/scott-andrew-16/chembros1997-05-17partial
Found this thread doing some research on the show.
Enjoy!
..wtf..?
Boldcaptain! Some of us were discussing your awesome recordings at the US concerts recently. Great to see you, thank you for sharing this.
this really is a great recording
I can say the two are different shows, in this recording IDM starts with the synth and the VHS starts with Lothar.
Man you can almost hear them ready to drop EML Ritual and MAH when they're building into IDM!
Edit: this is amazing, is there a downloadable version? Not sure how/if it's possible with Soundcloud?
this truly is a good year for chem Lives :music
Edit: During the Reel @ 1:15:47 ish, you can hear the sirens from the 2000 Live version of It doesnt matter & During I Take LSD, you can hear heavily distorted UHs from chemical beats
Edit 2: according to setlists, this is supposed to takes place in Hammerstein Ballroom In NYC, considering the title says 1997-05-17
Quote from: Conn6orsuper117 on Aug 15, 2019, 01:26this truly is a good year for chem Lives
You're not wrong! I'm not new to the chems by any means but joining this forum exactly when I did earlier this year has proven soo fruitful opening my eyes to their live history
Quote from: boldcaptain on Aug 14, 2019, 22:20
Found this on DAT while cleaning out the storage unit....
https://soundcloud.com/scott-andrew-16/chembros1997-05-17partial
Found this thread doing some research on the show.
Enjoy!
My friend and I made an astonishing discovery listening to this recording, the bit from I Take LSD is just a filtered version of the synth intro from Not Another Drugstore!!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxZ842dbGPFpDISKl8fmQsJvPF0Qvuly/view?usp=sharing
here's my take on the remake, it required a bit of editing to the intro and it's nowhere near perfect...(we may or may not end up remaking the whole mix)
boldcaptain...
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
boldcaptain, you don't have to answer this, but I would like to say... I hope someone in the Daft Punk camp tracked you down and properly compensated you for your Coachella 2006 "effort".
Taking account of all the factors that were happening at that time, and what happened as result, there is no doubt in my mind your Daft Punk recording has far more influence than just being another bootleg. Legality be damned.
Thanks to all of those who are contributing with these older recordings. Simply awesome stuff!
Is it THE boldcaptain? TEH bold captain we have to be grateful to for the 2005 coachella and the 2003 Centro Fly DJ set recording?! You have now idea (or probably you do) how big a deal that was at a time when we were practically stuck on a lonely live recording island, longing for any coconut dub that fell from the heavens. I remember that time so vividly, when I was soaking in all bits and pieces of live audio I could come by (the mixingbowl anyone?).
Welcome aboard, captain!
holy shit, people on the daft club were trying to reach him in gratitude.
Welcome to the Chembase, Brother!
P.S. Feel free to hit us up if you have the DP Redbox 1997 recording ::)
Ha, Biff and Boldcaptain in the credits!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewKLSeaECAA
Hmm... There must be Daft Punk version of Biff too. I want to meet him!
Thanks for all platitudes folks...
I was soooo mad missing the Forest Hills show, then my man MTech 77 manages a killer pull, on video no less, from up front. AMAZING!
Hugh props for that!
As for Daft, at the time, Pedro, their manager, banned all talk of the cochella bootleg on the Daft Punk board. Believe me he WAS NOT happy... And probably because the sound was just flawless... Then, and excuse me cuz i can't remember the name of the person, from the coachella board, that solicited video clips from other attendees, and pieced, and oh my god what a job that must have been, pieced together a complete show on video, from what must have been hundreds of clips, synced it to my audio, and blew up the message board with its release.
And Pedro lost his mind... He wanted my head... Just about every article on the internet about Coachella 2006 had a reference to the now infamous video bootleg release from the most talked about set from that year. Then he had to release an official video from that same tour, Daft Punks "Alive 2007" recorded in Paris later the next year.
So while the fans may have appreciated the video boot release, no one else in the Daft camp was pleased with our work..
But thats what makes it so special, its the pinnacle of bootleg taping, to get the powers that be to pay attention and rub their noses in it a little...
Guy and Thomas are tops in the electronic dance movement to me, and having had a hand in the bootleg was pleasing enough for me, and the thought that little ol' me (with a whole lot of internet help) could force a major release from a major artist is just, again the pinnacle of what bootleg taping could bring, and oh so satisfying...
As for Chem Base, in the ten year absence of the chems (here in america) i fell of the board, cuz i used to be on it, but i guess the data base changed and i never re upped, till the boys came back to NY, thought the time was right. Then going thru some stuff I found the 97 show and knew where it would bet appreciated, which is how i got back here.
So is there anyone that go thru this file and give me track timings and titles, and i can put the flac files up on Dime or Mixing bowl for the lossless community???
I didn't go thru the file that was posted here previously, and i am unaware of any other New York show in 97 that that video may have come from. Someone has already stated that it seems the video audio is different from what i posted, so i don't know where that video may have come from.
Also i was late getting in. so the show is in progress (Song for the Siren) when i started recording, missing about 20 minutes of the start, which is present on the previous file.
Thanks folks.. and as always, more to come....
Quote from: boldcaptain on Aug 15, 2019, 14:25
So is there anyone that go thru this file and give me track timings and titles, and i can put the flac files up on Dime or Mixing bowl for the lossless community???
00:00:00 Song For The Siren
00:01:25 Three Little Birdies Down Beats
00:09:24 It Doesn't Matter
00:13:46 Don't Stop The Rock
00:17:25 Elektrobank
00:22:22 Piku
00:24:32 Playground For A Wedgeless Firm
00:27:21 Dig Your Own Hole
00:32:49 Setting Sun
00:41:43 Chemical Beats
00:54:21 Hey Boy Hey Girl/Music Response
00:57:27 I Take LSD (I'm Taking LSD)
01:06:45 The Private Psychedelic Reel
Can't wait to hear lossless!
Thanks man!
Ill try to get that out this week....
Will post link here
Okay, the video is here:
Download: https://we.tl/t-xZtdlJJN5H (https://we.tl/t-xZtdlJJN5H)
Working on streaming...
...Aaaand on the Youtubes here: https://youtu.be/yclUNGDLozI (https://youtu.be/yclUNGDLozI)
I Come back from camp to this!?! :o its beautiful!
those cubes on the ceiling look suspiciously similar to the ones from the gig in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s72CETN9Uak
although I don't recognize any key features from Hammerstein
but those loops of fury visuals, oh my goodness! this could be a stretch but they must've been inspiration for Escape velocity from an archive somewhere.
So Leave home's visuals are the true origin for several of Flashback's visuals, Interesting.
Elektrobank's outro visuals must've been recycled and used for The Golden path in 2007.
Don't get me wrong its great to see the encore in its full, but Im kinda sad to see HBHG/Music:Response used only eyeballs. was kinda hoping for Giant text reading MUSIC! and RESPONSE!
The Reel looking beautiful as always.
The Chemical Brothers Live NYC VHS 1997 - Yessahh !!! This is fantastic , thanks so much for making this available to view , , so great to see early Chem Bros footage , Tom and Ed trailblazing the path : -)
Holy effing cow, that VHS recording!!! This is a total gem! You can actually see Tom and Ed doing their shit, playing with faders and manipulating effects and frequencies. Thank you very much for you effort of digitizing your tape. This is a true rarity.
i've never seen 1997 footage like this before..fantastic. thank you so very much!
THIS IS THE PREQUEL TO DONT THINK!
LOF is just banging with that crowd. that segue into BRB is just mind-blowing! and then see them jam together on DYOH :o :o :o im not even halfway into the show but i would trade all my past shows for this one if i could go back in time!
THANKS CROTOR! I nominate you for forum member of the year! this is such a big contribution to the chemical fans!
EDIT @1:17:00 unknown track or early music response version?
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Aug 26, 2019, 19:41
EDIT @1:17:00 unknown track or early music response version?
its the legendary early version of hey boy hey girl, which uses the music response vocals as well as a scrapped acapella.
surprised you never heard this version before
Are there any really clean recordings of this version of HBHG/MR?
Quote from: Crotor on Aug 26, 2019, 02:35
Okay, the video is here:
Download: https://we.tl/t-xZtdlJJN5H (https://we.tl/t-xZtdlJJN5H)
Working on streaming...
Be awesome to try and get the best audio from this VHS to see if I can clean it up and bring it up some. I currently got my TV volume at 50 with the YouTube app when it is usually at 14-16. Audio is pretty quiet on YT. I haven't tried the direct file.
That's awesome! The visuals have come such a long way from being two images alternating and zooming in and out to what we get today.
Quote from: Ben_j on Aug 27, 2019, 22:12
That's awesome! The visuals have come such a long way from being two images alternating and zooming in and out to what we get today.
They absolutely have, and I'm really proud of Smith & Lyall's development, but this also drove home to me the extent to which what they're interested in doing now is an extension of what they did back then. eg: The opening shot of the "Escape Velocity" visuals is basically an HD remaster of that blurry traffic footage from "Loops Of Fury"! We went from static images of ant silhouettes to a swarm of cockroaches crawling across the screen! And "The Private Psychedelic" is basically identical in its 2019 execution (https://youtube.com/watch?v=V5z9Goxop0E&t=32m53) to how they did it in 1997 (https://youtube.com/watch?v=yclUNGDLozI&t=1h27m27s), minus a few clowns and plus a few thousand pixels of image resolution.
(Which is to say nothing of the music! All those live-only trigger sounds that made it from NYC nightclubs to today's biggest festival stages!)
Quote from: neorev on Aug 26, 2019, 22:47
Be awesome to try and get the best audio from this VHS to see if I can clean it up and bring it up some. I currently got my TV volume at 50 with the YouTube app when it is usually at 14-16. Audio is pretty quiet on YT. I haven't tried the direct file.
Good idea. I gave it a shot myself with the available sound quality extracted from the video:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/3cesw7
If you like it, maybe someone can mate it with the footage?
I would rather work on video quality. But i need raw source of it.
Yes the video is really bad, it'd be super nice to get a proper transfer from the VHS.
I've made too an enhanced version of the audio, it sounds pretty similar to @csar version (to my ears).
https://mega.nz/#!kq5lECLA!v1DwU_rT-IUm6IcndGKwPPcK3vNlz4y9MyE8QuWxcok
Let me know which version you like more and I'll merge it with the video.
Quote from: Conn6orsuper117 on Aug 26, 2019, 04:09
those cubes on the ceiling look suspiciously similar to the ones from the gig in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s72CETN9Uak
That because they are part of the chemicals stage design in. Remember them being at the front of the stage to the left and right at Brixton in the early days.
Thanks Crotor for getting this beautiful video transferred. I would say the transfer is pretty good knowing how shocking VHS tape can be! Great camera angle Tom in action hammering the MPC in leave home and song to the siren. Love watching the faders in action. You get a real sense of Tom crafting the channels soloing, FXing and mashing up. I really miss those early days seeing the brothers playing to a small room
I made an MKV with all 3 audio, default is from csar.
As second stream the original audio and as 3rd mine (it's a bit more processed).
Enjoy!
https://mega.nz/#!oqoWUKJD!OCKvnhJYS6wOD5LI85eHhglgaRrwo5pk7gIu6Eqrto4
I know you guys mean well, but an amateur shot, 22 year old recording on VHS tape, and we're complaining about quality?::) We're lucky the tape wasn't eaten on playback.
Thank you Crotor for taking the time to transfer this. And Cheers for the enhanced audio version Csar/Mannix.
Thought Tom's shirt said "Bomb the Bass" but I think it says "Bomb the Past", is that a reference to something?
I concur, the quality for a (privately?) recorded gig that was transfered to and from VHS is as good as it gets. I'm just glad we are even able to get a glimpse back to 1997, especially with a viewing angle like that!
Thanks Mannix, I think your mix is crisper than mine! Thanks for the various audio stream version.
bosco and csar, your decency and sanity are appreciated. this video is brilliant
You're welcome, it was a pleasure 8)
The gig is a rare gem and we are so lucky for this unexpected gift, thanks again Crotor!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not "complaining" about the quality.
As Bosco said we are lucky the tape wasn't eaten in the process.
But an expert eye notices immediately the encoder was not setup at its best.
Can't be sure without actually seeing the original but my bet is the video lost really a lot, there are massive blobs of mpeg macroblocks that shouldn't be there.
Damn this VHS still rocks after so many years.
Most of the CD and DVD that I mastered during that period, when I take them out the sleeve they end up in shreds... and they were selling it like they'd last longer than any tape tsk
Anyway in case another transfer is attempted I'd be happy to support in the encoder configuration :)
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 30, 2019, 20:06
Thought Tom's shirt said "Bomb the Bass" but I think it says "Bomb the Past", is that a reference to something?
After wading through the thickets of the shady Redbubble reprint market, I discovered an interview that apparently only survived on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mpeopleandheathersmall/4539468760) which suggests it's from a series of slogans/merch-ready advertisements for Deconstruction Records, devised by label head Peter Hadfield. Deconstruction was founded by a bunch of Haçienda vets and as we know Tom & Ed were fans of the Nude Night, which I imagine is how that connection happened (plus they had a remix out around that time for Deconstruction act Lionrock, which probably helped).
Hell of a find Champi.
Tom was on Deconstruction Records as a part of Ariel, they released Rollercoaster, T-Baby, and all but their earliest singles through them. Deconstruction also helped hook up a few of the earliest Chemical Brothers live shows when they were still the Dust Brothers in 94 / 95.
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Sep 01, 2019, 20:10
Hell of a find Champi.
Tom was on Deconstruction Records as a part of Ariel, they released Rollercoaster, T-Baby, and all but their earliest singles through them. Deconstruction also helped hook up a few of the earliest Chemical Brothers live shows when they were still the Dust Brothers in 94 / 95.
to further this convo:
https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,212.msg12435.html#msg12435
thanks for tracking down the reference Champiness
Quote from: Bosco on Aug 30, 2019, 20:06
I know you guys mean well, but an amateur shot, 22 year old recording on VHS tape, and we're complaining about quality?::) We're lucky the tape wasn't eaten on playback.
I think it looks great, just wish it was a little louder on YouTube. I have to turn my TV app up to 50 when watching when normally my TV volume is on 10-16. Be nice to not change the video and blow out my speakers when the next video is at normal volume. ;)
Quote from: neorev on Sep 03, 2019, 23:10
I think it looks great, just wish it was a little louder on YouTube. I have to turn my TV app up to 50 when watching when normally my TV volume is on 10-16. Be nice to not change the video and blow out my speakers when the next video is at normal volume. ;)
Crotor requested that I also upload the video to my channel, I doubled the volume so hopefully its loud enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0h224bxgpU
I literally have just finished watching this gig and bloody hell, what incredible footage!
I especially loved seeing the guys hammering the mixing desk. And I'm probably late to the party with this but I never knew that 'Hey Boy Hey Girl' & 'Music:Response' were played this early!!
Thank you so much for the upload. What great memories of that era.
Cheers!
1. Thanks to all for:
A. Your work on improving the/deploying said improved audio
B. Proving to my wife that my case of fandom is not the most severe
2. Just looked at the analytics for my original upload. Hella surprised at the Russian and Ukrainian views. Is that typical for Chems fandom content?
Quote from: Crotor on Sep 06, 2019, 02:20
2. Just looked at the analytics for my original upload. Hella surprised at the Russian and Ukrainian views. Is that typical for Chems fandom content?
The dream of 90's electronica is still alive for a bunch of enthusiastic Slavs who lowkey bankroll the continued careers of its notable artists - this (https://youtube.com/watch?v=WRZGx9AQxyc&t=1h00m41s) is what they did the last time the Chems came to town.
Quote from: Crotor on Sep 06, 2019, 02:20
1. Thanks to all for:
A. Your work on improving the/deploying said improved audio
B. Proving to my wife that my case of fandom is not the most severe
2. Just looked at the analytics for my original upload. Hella surprised at the Russian and Ukrainian views. Is that typical for Chems fandom content?
Ha, I hope transferring a VHS tape isn't considered over the top fandom :)
As for the Russian/ Ukrainian views, those are most likly spammers who have been flooding the site for some weeks now. This is not the Prodigy we're talking about :D
Quote from: Csar on Sep 06, 2019, 08:14As for the Russian/ Ukrainian views, those are most likly spammers who have been flooding the site for some weeks now. This is not the Prodigy we're talking about
No.
I'm admin of a Chems group in Russian social network VK and posted this video there:
(https://sun9-11.userapi.com/c852228/v852228478/1c3d3a/EapKhb-ZfYk.jpg)
Then I'll take it back and would like to apologize. I thought the torrent of spam bots lately was a plausible cause. Great to see there are lots of Russian and Ukrainian fans enjoying the Chems.
Up n runnin..
Chemical Brothers (partial)
May 17, 1997
Hammerstien Ballroom, NYC
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=657424
Quote from: Crotor on Aug 26, 2019, 02:35
Okay, the video is here:
Download: https://we.tl/t-xZtdlJJN5H (https://we.tl/t-xZtdlJJN5H)
Working on streaming...
Could someone the upload this? I was a bit slow on the uptake on this
Thanks
Quote from: sneakerbeater on Nov 10, 2019, 17:35
Could someone the upload this? I was a bit slow on the uptake on this
Thanks
Hey Sneaker, I could upload the file Mannix provided that has all 3 audio tracks integrated in 6x 300MB archives? Would that be ok?
Hi Csar, I've just spotted Mannix link above and that's still working! I'm all sorted now, thank for the offer.
Quote from: sneakerbeater on Nov 10, 2019, 20:35
Hi Csar, I've just spotted Mannix link above and that's still working! I'm all sorted now, thank for the offer.
Even better! Enjoy the recording.