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Title: US Elections 2016
Post by: ThePumisher on Nov 08, 2016, 11:09
so today is the day?

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Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: sandelic on Nov 08, 2016, 11:21
It is. Good luck, people :)
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Nov 08, 2016, 15:14
I am an American citizen.

After much deliberation, today I bypassed my preferred 3rd Party human rights and climate change activist to vote for the untrustworthy big bank friendly war hawk corporate shill. I did this for my kids and their future, for the Supreme Court nominations, for all women, for those of different color or sexual orientation, for the underprivileged, for the disabled, for the artists, for the free thinkers and for all those whom oppose authoritarian rule. I did this because our nation has a very good chance of electing an inexperienced xenophobic hateful buffoon would-be fascist and his Cabinet of scary white men, and I cannot let these people win.

It could have been so much different. It SHOULD have been so much different. It should have been Bernis Sanders.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Ben_j on Nov 08, 2016, 15:58
Quote from: satur8 on Nov 08, 2016, 15:14

I am an American citizen.

After much deliberation, today I bypassed my preferred 3rd Party human rights and climate change activist to vote for the untrustworthy big bank friendly war hawk corporate shill. I did this for my kids and their future, for the Supreme Court nominations, for all women, for those of different color or sexual orientation, for the underprivileged, for the disabled, for the artists, for the free thinkers and for all those whom oppose authoritarian rule. I did this because our nation has a very good chance of electing an inexperienced xenophobic hateful buffoon would-be fascist and his Cabinet of scary white men, and I cannot let these people win.

It could have been so much different. It SHOULD have been so much different. It should have been Bernis Sanders.

It's sad that now every vote is a vote against someone, and not for someone. Every time I had to vote, I ended up thinking "who's the best choice to make sure X doesn't get to the second turn ?".
Next year's elections in France will be horrible, there's not a single candidate I want to vote for, yet I'm pretty sure I will end up doing the same as always...
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 08, 2016, 16:44
Quote from: satur8 on Nov 08, 2016, 15:14

It could have been so much different. It SHOULD have been so much different. It should have been Bernie Sanders.
This, so much. It's why I can't bring myself to vote for Hillary, and by extension the corruption and collusion that happened within the DNC to bring him down. Maybe I'm young and naive in thinking we can have a government that does away with corruption - maybe that's a good thing, maybe I'll grow out it. But so long as Indiana's not a swing state, I'm voting third party and for a future with better options than the ones we have now.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Nov 08, 2016, 16:45
Don't worry.  The election will be over today and tomorrow the race for 2020 will begin...
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Csar on Nov 08, 2016, 21:13
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Nov 08, 2016, 16:44

This, so much. It's why I can't bring myself to vote for Hillary, and by extension the corruption and collusion that happened within the DNC to bring him down. Maybe I'm young and naive in thinking we can have a government that does away with corruption - maybe that's a good thing, maybe I'll grow out it. But so long as Indiana's not a swing state, I'm voting third party and for a future with better options than the ones we have now.
Great way to go! I couldn't vote for either one, too, to be honest and I totally get your reasoning. Both candiates have more than questionable personalities.

I don't envy you Americans right now because this whole elecetion season has been nothing but a disgrace. Let's see what the outcome will be. I somehow believe Trump is going to make it, though. Any bets?
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Nov 08, 2016, 23:15
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Nov 08, 2016, 16:44
Maybe I'm young and naive in thinking we can have a government that does away with corruption

I think it's neither naive nor a detriment to youth. It's a strength and a belief that needs to be fought for. If anything, I am a Gen X'er that stands with Millennials. It hurt my heart to vote for Hillary, but my post is pretty detailed on my reasoning. I REALLY wanted to go 3rd Party and I dispise the 'lesser of 2 evils' arguement. Now, I'm not one to buy into the hype...but I've been voting in Presidential Elections since 1992 and this one feels different. Dangerous. So maybe it's not so much the youth as it is personal experience. I can tell you it is NOT normal for the Nazi's and White Supremicists to come out so brazenly as they have this year. Based on this, I felt it was most important to shut down their guy with our heaviest hitter. 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 00:33
I have to say, I completely agree with Satur8.

The simple fact that Trump has let all of this hate and fear and racism come out into the open is reason enough to vote the other way - to burry it deep, deep underground. I've been following this election pretty closely for the last year (admittedly through liberal media) but I am still yet to see any evidence that Hilary isn't the better moral vote. I understand she is just another  politician that doesn't represent a serious forward step in terms of making a better system for everyone, but even a sniff of a hope that Trump could be president is too much gratification for the horrendous behaviour and thinking of a lot (not all, by any means) of his voters.

I mean, just looking at gun control and same sex marriage as two issues, there's no question for me that Hilary is on the right side of those issues. In fact, I've seen a few tables of issues with each candidates opinion on them listed side by side, and Hilary is always on the right side. Maybe I'm simplifying this too much, but isn't that more important in this particular 2 horse race?
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: androidgeoff on Nov 09, 2016, 00:51
I hated voting today. Probably my least favorite day as an American.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Bosco on Nov 09, 2016, 01:37
I refuse to participate in any discussion about politics and voting in America until Biff drops the mandatory Simpsons reference. 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 09, 2016, 03:39
America what the f**k are you doing? You know the rest of the world gets your president too, right?
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: whirlygirl on Nov 09, 2016, 04:00
Quote from: satur8 on Nov 08, 2016, 23:15

I think it's neither naive nor a detriment to youth. It's a strength and a belief that needs to be fought for. If anything, I am a Gen X'er that stands with Millennials. It hurt my heart to vote for Hillary, but my post is pretty detailed on my reasoning. I REALLY wanted to go 3rd Party and I dispise the 'lesser of 2 evils' arguement. Now, I'm not one to buy into the hype...but I've been voting in Presidential Elections since 1992 and this one feels different. Dangerous. So maybe it's not so much the youth as it is personal experience. I can tell you it is NOT normal for the Nazi's and White Supremicists to come out so brazenly as they have this year. Based on this, I felt it was most important to shut down their guy with our heaviest hitter. 

I totally agree with everything you said. Once Bernie lost to Hillary, I knew I'd be holding my nose when I cast my vote. And I did it for primarily the very reasons you already said in this post and the one before. I personally did not care for our 3rd party choices, quite frankly.

Right now as I'm watching the results trickle in, I'm sick to my stomach.

Other elections had me fit to be tied, but this is an entirely different beast all together.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: whirlygirl on Nov 09, 2016, 04:04

Quote from: Skyscraper on Nov 09, 2016, 03:39

America what the f**k are you doing? You know the rest of the world gets your president too, right?


Fuck dude, no words. I don't even know anymore..... :(
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 04:19
Non college educated white men.

...

.. I...

.. College isn't where you should learn respect for your fellow man and woman.

This is quite unbelievable.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 04:30
Canada's immigration website has crashed.

Quote from: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 04:19

Non college educated white men.
The crazy thing is, that demographic historically leans democrat.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 04:33
That's what I would have thought.
So what was in Trumps message that swayed them the other way? I really don't understand it.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 04:36
^I actually read an interesting article on that. Funnily enough it was retweeted by Marcus Lyall. Saying it was relevant to Brexit.

"Why Trump Voters Are Not Idiots": https://medium.com/@Chris_arnade/trump-politics-and-option-pricing-or-why-trump-voters-are-not-idiots-1e364a4ed940#.dv7cgwa19
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Nov 09, 2016, 04:41
Sums it up for me...
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 04:43
Except that a lot of Bernie voters ended up voting Trump because he still represented a change in the system.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 04:49
Yeah. It's that their main goal is electing someone outside the "broken system", taking priority over all the issues that Sanders and Clinton (relatively) see eye to eye on.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Nov 09, 2016, 05:18
No, I voted for HRC because math. 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: whirlygirl on Nov 09, 2016, 06:06
 :(

Sorry, world. Sorry.

What a day...
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 06:18
Watching Colbert's Showtime election coverage...

It's so depressing. I've never seen him like this.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Nov 09, 2016, 06:55
W.T.F. America?!?
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: sandelic on Nov 09, 2016, 07:36
Quote from: Enjoyed on Nov 09, 2016, 04:43

Except that a lot of Bernie voters ended up voting Trump because he still represented a change in the system.
This. This is why Trump is now POTUS. Plus many swallowed that fable about Hillary being child-eating witch.
congratz are in order? 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 07:51
Pence and Trump are making their speeches now. It's sickening. Half of me is more worried about Pence than Trump, he's done next to nothing good for Indiana, and has made every indication he'll be an active VP.

Quote from: sandelic on Nov 09, 2016, 07:36

This. This is why Trump is now POTUS. Plus many swallowed that fable about Hillary being child-eating witch.
congratz are in order? 
No. It's far and away the DNC's fault for screwing Bernie out of the primary. He would have destroyed Trump.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Ben_j on Nov 09, 2016, 07:54
Quote from: whirlygirl on Nov 09, 2016, 06:06

What a day...
What a lovely day ?
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Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 07:59
At least more states have legal weed now.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: ThePumisher on Nov 09, 2016, 08:01
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 07:59

At least more states have legal weed now.
Snoop Dog likes that
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Bosco on Nov 09, 2016, 08:47
Is it simply because she is a woman?

I've lost respect for the american public long before this election, but I was expecting a much higher support from women voters. Women voters alone, should have won her the election.

WHAT THE FUCK


man, this is a hard pill to swallow
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Bosco on Nov 09, 2016, 08:49
blue collar states voting against pro-union party? no sense
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Csar on Nov 09, 2016, 09:31
It's sad to see that all it takes these days is a big mouth, a big ego and a simplistic, vulgar language to represent "change". I hope all the voters are as satisfied as the (surprised) Brexit voters were and are happy with their decision to let a 5 year old narcissist taking over the helm. You are soon going to learn that everything was nothing but a laughable stunt and all the promises made are merly smoke and mirrors.

This election is going to be just a taste of what's to come for us Germans next year when we will be electing the Bundestag. Apparently populists and simple solutions are more appealing than confronting complexity with sanity and reasoning.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Stefan on Nov 09, 2016, 12:52
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Nov 09, 2016, 07:59

At least more states have legal weed now.
You just shot yourself in the face, with a pumpgun. Here, smoke some weed, that'll relieve the pain.


Americans, I'm truly sorry for You. Even from the relatively save distance of Central Europe, It feels so bizarre thinking of this demagogue as POTUS. I can't imagine what you're going through.  :'(
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Nov 09, 2016, 13:23
BREAKING: America
(up next: the rest of the world)
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: sandelic on Nov 09, 2016, 14:06
At least forum has been much more lively because of president Trump (wow, it does feel kinda weird to type that!)
Silver lining and all...  :)
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Ben_j on Nov 09, 2016, 14:28
It looks like Hillary will get more overall votes on the national level. Isn't it time to change this broken voting system ? :(
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Nekcore on Nov 09, 2016, 14:59
Reading comments on every single article, praising this winning and saying that finally that the "brown people" and "liberals" are gonna disappear for good, it's absolutely impressive... I mean... what in the actual fuck are passing through the US Citizens minds? This is 2016, and they're voting for a narcissist business showman who has no experience for politics at all just because, you want to piss off somebody else? That's kinda fuck up. I'm not expert for US politics, but it amazes me that the majority of citizens couldn't have some common sense of how things work first, before bashing some demographic population.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: inchemwetrust on Nov 09, 2016, 19:30
I feel like I just been casted accidentally to a 4 year shitty-reality TV show!

I was at work last night and the look on everybody was just disbelief. I also lost my appetite and skipped dinner.

Its quiet in my house right now but I can slighly still hear the defeat. 😢

Im gonna miss those kate mckinnon sketches.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: inchemwetrust on Nov 09, 2016, 19:44
Quote from: Ben_j on Nov 08, 2016, 15:58

It's sad that now every vote is a vote against someone, and not for someone. Every time I had to vote, I ended up thinking "who's the best choice to make sure X doesn't get to the second turn ?".
Next year's elections in France will be horrible, there's not a single candidate I want to vote for, yet I'm pretty sure I will end up doing the same as always...

Bingo! having a gun to your head to choose 2 of the worst of what America has to offer is just baffling. I chose Bernie from the beginning and now it just feels like I had no options on Election day.

We need Chems post election mix! I could use some cheering up! Hugs to all who feel the same as I do!
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Nov 09, 2016, 19:45
FUCK THIS SHIT.

I am embarrassed to be an American right now. 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Explud on Nov 09, 2016, 21:03
Ooh..

I have only one thought. And why there are so hotly debated only the elections in the US? Why do I not see the topics in forums about the elections, such as Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, the Czech Republic?

I want to tell you a bad word, but I will not.
And then you still somehow discussing about politics and about cancelling Chems show in Israel.

I'm feeling really sad at this time, 'cause i thought it's a place to everyone to share the feelings about all of the world in cultural language.

No, now it has become political.
Ok.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Nov 09, 2016, 21:43
Quote from: Explud on Nov 09, 2016, 21:03
I'm feeling really sad at this time, 'cause i thought it's a place to everyone to share the feelings about all of the world in cultural language.

I think we are human and sometimes an international conversation regarding current events is constructive, even more so when speaking to fellow artist-types. I'm not sure if you're implying something specific about the U.S., but this election has been international news for some time. We have several American members here and clearly several non-American members knowledgeable about events here. Additionally, in this forum we've discussed other major world events, such as the Paris attacks or Brexit. It's not all about the U.S., and none here that I've spoken to would want it that way. But...this election IS a big deal with implications for the world.

If you have some world views you want to discuss, you should. I've found this to be an awesome group, even when I don't agree with everything someone says. So if you have something you want to say, say it and open the conversation. Otherwise, just skip the politics threads. I skip the sports ones and never think twice. Also, one on the admins even moved this to its own thread so it is easily avoided.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Stefan on Nov 09, 2016, 22:24
Quote from: Explud on Nov 09, 2016, 21:03

I have only one thought. And why there are so hotly debated only the elections in the US? Why do I not see the topics in forums about the elections, such as Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, the Czech Republic?

Sure, there are enough political topics to talk about. One that concerns me, for instance, is the development in Turkey since the failed coup to overthrow President Erdogan in July 2016.

I think why the US election creates such a hubbub is because, firstly, the POTUS is a very powerful and important player in international politics. Secondly, the US election itself IS a huge media circus.

I do think that an argument can be made for not overly discussing politics, as they tend to get emotional and the internet is the absolute worst place to have emotional discussions.
However, in times like these, we cannot afford to not get political anymore.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Csar on Nov 09, 2016, 22:53
Quote from: Explud on Nov 09, 2016, 21:03

Ooh..

I have only one thought. And why there are so hotly debated only the elections in the US? Why do I not see the topics in forums about the elections, such as Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, the Czech Republic?

I want to tell you a bad word, but I will not.
And then you still somehow discussing about politics and about cancelling Chems show in Israel.

I'm feeling really sad at this time, 'cause i thought it's a place to everyone to share the feelings about all of the world in cultural language.

No, now it has become political.
Ok.
Explud, please don't feel mad. I know  that it can be (or even is) really frustrating to see and hear all this fuzz about this event all day. But one can't also deny that this is a major event affecting global politics in one way or another, at least since the end of WW2.
This very forum, like Satur8 indicated, has always been a place were forumites commented on everything that happend at the time, be it politics, society or arts etc and I would feel sad if this would change. So I'm glad this got its own topic making it easy to avoid if one wants to.
-----------------------------------------------

What really grinds my gears with this electoral result is that a person with this big of an ego once again just gets his way. This vote simply is a ballot-casted reinforcement for his type of personality, probably making him even more believe that he can get and do whatever he wants (remeber the 5th Ave. example?). It'll only endorse his illusion of being a smart smart man capable of just everything. He's a profitieer of the social and political climate but surely will attribute all this to himself and his skills. It sickens me that posers like him often enough get the recognition they don't deserve.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: MadPooter on Nov 09, 2016, 23:23
Just a quick note:

As an American, I am embarrassed. I am ashamed.

But I remain resolute that I will do everything in my power to ensure that the rights of everyone in this country are protected.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Nov 09, 2016, 23:45
ACLU has declared war. 

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/if-donald-trump-implements-his-proposed-policies-well-see-him-court
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Ben_j on Nov 10, 2016, 00:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-FPb-Mcpjw

Quote
for our friends. for our family. for everyone who is hurting or scared right now. here is a song we wrote months ago. we werent planning on releasing it yet but... well it feels right, now. it's about fear and it's about love and it's about wanting more for all of us. it's called "2100". we hope it finds you well.

love,
jaime and mike
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: UltimatePelmeni on Nov 10, 2016, 11:01
Quote from: Explud on Nov 09, 2016, 21:03
I have only one thought. And why there are so hotly debated only the elections in the US? Why do I not see the topics in forums about the elections, such as Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, the Czech Republic?

Topics about elections in Russia? Mate, there's no thing in the whole world that would be more boring than elections with just one candidate/faction. You know it as well.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: sandelic on Nov 10, 2016, 11:28
What to say about politics in Balkan quagmire? Things here are the same as they were in early 90's, minus the wars. I almost never brought it up because is beyond depressing and, I suspect, of little interest to anyone who is not living here.
And to be honest, not just depressing. Shameful comes to mind, and I'm being gentle.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: chemreact on Nov 14, 2016, 02:55
Thank you white people.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Nov 17, 2016, 16:36
https://www.change.org/p/federal-drug-administration-force-trump-to-eat-shrooms-until-he-realises-we-are-all-one
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Dec 22, 2016, 13:11
Every day the news is worse, with some bullshit appointment or horrifying revelation as the media presses nothing. 

It really is dampinging the holiday season for many Americans, and I imagine the world, as we see what is coming.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Dec 22, 2016, 17:28
Whiskey helps. 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Bosco on Jan 26, 2017, 03:24
Just bumping to celebrate the nazi punch heard 'round the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI8TzwBaHJo


we got work to do
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Csar on Jan 26, 2017, 12:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: whirlygirl on Jan 30, 2017, 14:32
Quote from: Born In Planet Dust on Dec 22, 2016, 17:28

Whiskey helps. 

Thankfully, marijuana is fully legal in California. At least for now. So there's that.




Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Jan 30, 2017, 20:01
Quote from: whirlygirl on Jan 30, 2017, 14:32

Thankfully, marijuana is fully legal in California. At least for now. So there's that.

Seriously considering joining you for that little escape. All the news I keep reading, along with the current stress of sorting out how to move here and live with my fiancée is really too much sometimes.
Jimmy Johns and Flipz only help up to a point...
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Jan 31, 2017, 01:18
This is seriously worth a read, folks. (https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.3w88lr2ca)
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: sandelic on Jan 31, 2017, 10:53
Quote from: Enjoyed on Jan 31, 2017, 01:18

This is seriously worth a read, folks. (https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.3w88lr2ca)
well, that was interesting... and depressing as hell!
I kind of expected for orange buffoon to ease up, since he'll be under constant scrutiny as soon as he enters WH, but man, he still surprises, no? I feel really bad for you folk over the pond, with crap he's pulling, I'm mad here, I can imagine how it stresses you out.
We are living in interesting times...
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Csar on Jan 31, 2017, 13:14
Thanks for that blog article, Enjoyed!
I spent all afternoon and evening reading the whole executive order in question and lots of articles commenting on it yesterday. As much as it was interesting to dive further into American politics, it was also deeply disturbing with respect to the ex- and implicit ramifications this all could mean for immigrants, non-immigrants and refugees in the future. Moreover, the whole way it has been enforced also speaks volumes about this administration.

Btw, this article (http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sorry-mr-president-the-obama-administration-did-nothing-similar-to-your-immigration-ban/) was also interesting to read as it takes on the assertions that this order is seen to be similar to previous actions/ orders of the BO administration.




Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Bosco on Jan 31, 2017, 20:57
I think the thread title should be redubbed "World on Fire" so we all can share our anxieties about newsy events and political dumbfuckery, region free.

Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Feb 01, 2017, 19:01
I am getting more and more AngryFrustratedPissedOffDiscouraged every day. Trying not to use this group as an outlet, but all of my FB friends are seeing it. I'm trying to get facts and history out there, but many fellow Americans just live in an alternate reality. This is really the only international forum I am part of, so it feels good to be part of a community that is clearly more intelligent than many of my countrymen.

Find me on the forum FB page and send me a friend request if you want to read the perspective of an American that is NOT okay with this. Let me know who you are. I don't know everyone's names, but I'm J Scott.

I used to post family charity events and sci-fi reviews and pictures of my action figure collection. This past month it's been almost nothing but yelling WAKE THE FUCK UUUUPPPPP!!!
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Bosco on Feb 02, 2017, 04:52
I hear you brotha.

I don't have facebook, but I do have twitter (only use it as pseudo news source, don't actually tweet). But there is some excellent follows out there during these trying times if your feeling frustrated. Not saying they'll make you feel better, but will assure you that you don't feel alone on all the bullshit that is going on.

Some of my favorite since the election:

Michael Ian Black (Comedian) https://twitter.com/michaelianblack

Andy Richter (Comedian/Conan O'Brien Sidekick) https://twitter.com/AndyRichter

Megan Amram (Writer/Twitter Treasure) https://twitter.com/meganamram

Bill Sienkiewicz (Artist, creator of my avatar that I use) https://twitter.com/sinKEVitch
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Csar on Feb 03, 2017, 10:27
America first - Everybody else second

Here's something funny for a change. Built upon the great Dutch video "Netherlands second"and its viral success, lots of late night shows are coming together to apply for being the world's second :D.

http://www.everysecondcounts.eu/

The original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

Our approach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBAofjXufqc

Switzerland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuJ8yVCgSM

Denmark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryppmnDbqJY
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: whirlygirl on Feb 03, 2017, 18:34
Quote from: satur8 on Feb 01, 2017, 19:01

I am getting more and more AngryFrustratedPissedOffDiscouraged every day. Trying not to use this group as an outlet, but all of my FB friends are seeing it. I'm trying to get facts and history out there, but many fellow Americans just live in an alternate reality. This is really the only international forum I am part of, so it feels good to be part of a community that is clearly more intelligent than many of my countrymen.

Find me on the forum FB page and send me a friend request if you want to read the perspective of an American that is NOT okay with this. Let me know who you are. I don't know everyone's names, but I'm J Scott.

I used to post family charity events and sci-fi reviews and pictures of my action figure collection. This past month it's been almost nothing but yelling WAKE THE FUCK UUUUPPPPP!!!

I've typically stayed neutral when it comes to politics on Facebook, but that has all changed. The months leading up to the election to now have me more vocal, if not on my page, then on other people's posts or public pages.

As a rule I tend to generally stay out of politics here on the forum, with the exception of a handful of times when I made it known my "dumb librul" leaning tendencies. Ideally, our corner of the internet would welcome all regardless of political affiliation. If the shoe were on the other foot and the majority of this forum were conservative, I'd kind of be put off and wouldn't post much, if at all. That said, I'm glad this forum exists, and am glad this thread is here. I'm so stressed out of the news each day that it's been affecting me physically and emotionally.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this post really. I just love you guys and am glad you're here.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Enjoyed on Feb 03, 2017, 18:56
We're glad you're here too, Whirls.

And with regard to making this a safe space for both sides, I agree. I am really keen to discuss what is happening with folks that support it. In efforts to understand why. And to 'bridge the gap', as we keep being told is the only real solution. I think that's true and as much as my opinions on the matter are strong and wildly against those supporting it, I do want to open up a dialogue with people so that we can figure out this whole mess.

I feel like a fraud sometimes being so affected by the state of this country that I'm not yet a part of, but it's important. For everyone. And if I can help anyone here at all, if only by listening and talking, then please send me a message, or find me on Facebook. These are tough times at the moment and having people around to listen and talk to is crucial.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Feb 04, 2017, 02:15
NIN Year Zero happens to be the most current important album.  Never mind that it is ten years old.  And we thought civil liberties and human rights in general were being trampled by George W. Bush.  I also remember when I thought he was arrogant.  Jesus Fuck America.  You had ONE FUCKING JOB to do ONE FUCKING DAY!!!   >:D
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: neorev on Feb 05, 2017, 23:58
I am an American and completely disappointed in my country. As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton, I'd prefer her over Donald Trump any day. But being a progressive Democrat, I must admit some of the blame is on my own party. They pulled some stupid sh-- in the primary and election. Yes, I am a Bernie Sanders supporter and I am proud of it. It pisses me off how the DNC colluded with media within our party to undermine his campaign. I believe Bernie would have destroyed Trump. Another big problem is the 40-50% of the American voting population who did not vote. So no, this is not Trump's America. Hillary had 3 million more votes than him and the millions who didn't vote at all. So Trump does not have the majority support of this nation. Plus the leaks have shown the DNC pushed Trump and the other crazy candidates to the forefront because they thought the crazies would be easier to beat. Boy were they wrong. The DNC's behavior on top of FBI Comey's BS media stunt to rob the election on BS charges did not help. Our broken system and out of date electoral college elected Trump. 

According to this article, we have over 200 million registered voters...
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/how-many-registered-voters-are-in-america-2016-229993

And the elections results...
Clinton - 65,844,954 (48.2%)
Trump - 62,979,879 (46.1%),

So that means 70+ million people didn't even vote. So more people didn't vote at all than either candidate's own total votes. So if No One was an option, No One would have won the election. Pretty sad.


Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: satur8 on Feb 07, 2017, 19:12
Today our Secretary of Education essentially bought her position and has promised dangerous and regressive changes. She was confirmed along party lines (with two dissenters) against the will of the people. Representatives ignored calls, emails, petitions and protests and claimed the opposition was small and paid for, not genuine despite the evidence. In reality, they answered to their donors, not their constituents. This corruption is blatant and things are getting exponentially worse. I am very unhappy.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: ThePumisher on Feb 07, 2017, 22:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfPBfMGLf9Q
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Feb 08, 2017, 15:56
Quote from: satur8 on Feb 07, 2017, 19:12

Today our Secretary of Education essentially bought her position and has promised dangerous and regressive changes. She was confirmed along party lines (with two dissenters) against the will of the people. Representatives ignored calls, emails, petitions and protests and claimed the opposition was small and paid for, not genuine despite the evidence. In reality, they answered to their donors, not their constituents. This corruption is blatant and things are getting exponentially worse. I am very unhappy.

But I thought they were "draining the swamp." 
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: neorev on Feb 09, 2017, 09:11
Quote from: Born In Planet Dust on Feb 08, 2017, 15:56

But I thought they were "draining the swamp." 

By swamp, he means politicians. He's replacing top positions with his business cronies instead of real politicians.
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Feb 10, 2017, 01:28
Much love to my Scottish peeps...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pbTmXsfiYk
Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Feb 10, 2017, 02:52
Quote from: Born In Planet Dust on Feb 10, 2017, 01:28

Much love to my Scottish peeps... 

Speaking of Scotland this also happened last year at Trump's Golf Club and was broadcast in the UK on Tuesday night this week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Ju8wZukYQ


Title: Re: US Elections 2016
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Feb 19, 2017, 19:45
#NeverRemember

https://twitter.com/MrGeorgeWallace/status/833239951714115585