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Forum => Live => Topic started by: KNE on Jul 04, 2015, 21:55

Title: The new Live setup!
Post by: KNE on Jul 04, 2015, 21:55
What do you guys think of their new setup? They got rid of the old Synth rack design, added more lasers and I believe I see a LED screen in front of another that gives a glowy sparkle effect to images off the other screen. Lovely eye candy.  (This could be moved to The Social, sorry)
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jul 05, 2015, 07:17
Looks less bulkier than previous setups imo. Less cluttery perhaps?
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03353/chembros_3353664b.jpg)

Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: whirlygirl on Jul 05, 2015, 15:33
I'm happy with their new set up. It seems less is more in terms of gear, and more is more in terms of lasers and robots, haha!

Good to see the wire spaghetti monster lives, though. :D A Chemical Brothers show is the only acceptable time for exposed wires!

Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Csar on Jul 05, 2015, 15:47
Wasn't it due to Ed's committments that they reduced their gear to a minimum this time around? I also remember them saying they wanted to 'tone down' the show a little. But don't pin me down on that. I guess Mr. Smith has a lot on his hands with lights and now some synths too. He couldn't really walk around, I suppose.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Stefan on Jul 05, 2015, 16:22
Quote from: Csar on Jul 05, 2015, 15:47

I also remember them saying they wanted to 'tone down' the show a little.
If by "tone down" they meant  Laser Rave Robots 10 meters tall, then I'm fine with that :-D

Also relevant:
http://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/605708518361067520
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Stefan on Jul 05, 2015, 16:27
Matt Cox also tweets nice pictures:
http://twitter.com/Midimatt001/status/610149633470414848

https://twitter.com/Midimatt001
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Nekcore on Jul 05, 2015, 18:32
Quote from: Stefan on Jul 05, 2015, 16:27

Matt Cox also tweets nice pictures:
http://twitter.com/Midimatt001/status/610149633470414848

https://twitter.com/Midimatt001

Matt's fun journey of setting up the electronic battle weapons. It's amazing to see that even with less gear this time around, everything builds up to something immensely powerful.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Stefan on Jul 23, 2015, 12:49
Although this video suffers from VVS and is quite shakey (intentionally?), it offers some cool behind-the-scenes footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdyYVhWvOwU
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: KNE on Jul 23, 2015, 22:13
 :o thats too awesome! always wanted to see the tech side of the live show.. im sure i wouldnt be able to record steady shots.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Csar on Jul 23, 2015, 22:41
What would I give to see seomthing like this about/with the Chemicals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXEvNUjgCg

And the interviewer here really knows her business!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbgnG2mAWWw
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Nekcore on Jul 24, 2015, 01:44
Quote from: Csar on Jul 23, 2015, 22:41

What would I give to see seomthing like this about/with the Chemicals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMXEvNUjgCg

And the interviewer here really knows her business!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbgnG2mAWWw

That would be like, the best documentary ever made in the history of mankind (Ok, I'm exaggerating with this one)
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Ben_j on Jul 31, 2015, 08:49
https://twitter.com/Midimatt001/status/571233606720462848

Interesting
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Ben_j on Jul 31, 2015, 09:06
2015 Gear list : (will update)
Soundcraft console
Native Instruments Maschine Studio
Elektron Machinedrum
Elektron Monomachine SFX60
Future Retro Revolution
Roland Juno 106
Roland Jupiter 6
Roland SH-101
Korg Mono/Poly
Korg MS10
Dave Smith Instruments Poly Evolver
Clavia Nord Modular G2
Octave Cat
Octave Kitten
Doepfer MAQ 16/3 (x2)
Ableton Live
Ableton Push
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: WhiteNoise on Jul 31, 2015, 09:07
I see Hoops on that midi sync list. Yes, please. I'd like a Hoops.

I wonder what Mind Response and Mark 1 are?
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: WhiteNoise on Jul 31, 2015, 09:26
Mostly related, stumbled upon a behind the scenes rundown from Marc Swadel who worked on the Don't Think movie. A good bit of substance and nitty gritty details on their film equipment: http://www.nzcine.com/dont-think-marc-swadel/
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Csar on Aug 03, 2015, 10:27
Chemical Brothers workstation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVs9htMjwk
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Stefan on Aug 03, 2015, 13:15
Quote from: Csar on Aug 03, 2015, 10:27

Chemical Brothers workstation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVs9htMjwk
Electronic Battle Weapon Control Center
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Biff on Aug 03, 2015, 20:28
What a nice video! I was gonna say, Adam didn't seem to play samples as much on the octopad as Ed would, but in SF he walked off stage w/a pair of drumsticks. That was pretty rock and/or roll.
The FR Revolution was a nice add on, got rid of the 777 as they overlap a bit.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Ben_j on Aug 10, 2015, 16:27
Seems like they removed the MonoMachine keyboard and replaced the midi keyboard triggers with the Ableton Push. I'm curious as to why they use Push, if it's only for sample triggering, why not using a Launchpad instead ?
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Biff on Aug 10, 2015, 18:31
They might use Push because they switched to Ableton a while ago. Maybe crashing issues? I think live triggers are mostly done by the Octapad. Push might be for queuing stuff (layers or different synth lines), though it's hard to say at this point.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Ben_j on Aug 10, 2015, 18:36
Quote from: Biff on Aug 10, 2015, 18:31

They might use Push because they switched to Ableton a while ago. Maybe crashing issues? I think live triggers are mostly done by the Octapad. Push might be for queuing stuff (layers or different synth lines), though it's hard to say at this point.
No, I'm pretty sure it's for triggering. Remember the midi keyboard with all the labels on the keys ? Well on the video you can see it's no longer there and the push pads have labels on them
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Biff on Aug 10, 2015, 19:27
We need closure! I'm gonna ask Matt Cox this on Twitter...
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Biff on Aug 12, 2015, 01:28
Ok, Matt was nice enough to explain the Push's function. Here are the tweets:

Me: "Hello Matt! I have a ? that's been debated on the Chems forum: is Push used for triggering sequences/layers or one-off samples?"

Matt:  "Hi David! Right now yes we trigger samples with Push..." "we also have b'up clips of stage synths with mapped control of filt, env and lfo to Push knobs and buttons, a work in prog!"

So it sounds like if they want to trigger sounds or if one of their synths goes wiggy they have a pre-recorded back up of the layer (read: when a Juno's voice chip goes out). As I mentioned in the thread on the Don't Think Under The Influence, this would probably account for why there are two acid lines at one point.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Ben_j on Aug 12, 2015, 08:14
Quote from: Biff on Aug 12, 2015, 01:28

So it sounds like if they want to trigger sounds or if one of their synths goes wiggy they have a pre-recorded back up of the layer (read: when a Juno's voice chip goes out). As I mentioned in the thread on the Don't Think Under The Influence, this would probably account for why there are two acid lines at one point.

Except in the UTI case, the sample is played all the time. Which means it's not a backup but just there so that the sound is the same each time. I wonder what they use as backup... There are VST versions of the Juno (non official), MonoPoly and SH 101, but nothing for the rest. Or maybe it's just audio clips recorded from the real synths with Ableton effects after them
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: KNE on Sep 10, 2015, 21:40
http://specialz.co.uk/Portfolio/2015/Chemical%20Brothers%202015.html

Good read here, about the live setup. ;D
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Enjoyed on Sep 10, 2015, 23:57
Quote from: KNE on Sep 10, 2015, 21:40

http://specialz.co.uk/Portfolio/2015/Chemical%20Brothers%202015.html

Good read here, about the live setup. ;D

Nice! I could have done with some diagrams at points though, Because I am a child and I need to visualise.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Born In Planet Dust on Sep 11, 2015, 04:24
file under stuff I totally want even though I have no idea how to use it. 
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: toxic on Sep 11, 2015, 06:03
Quote from: KNE on Sep 10, 2015, 21:40

http://specialz.co.uk/Portfolio/2015/Chemical%20Brothers%202015.html

Good read here, about the live setup. ;D
The Robots have names: George & Mildred  :D

https://plus.google.com/102316786212609634287/posts (https://plus.google.com/102316786212609634287/posts)

Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Csar on Jul 22, 2016, 16:27
I'm not sure whether this was posted before but here's an article from last year on the Chems' stage design, listing all the gear for lighting and power etc. This is quite staggering.

http://plsn.com/current-issue/60-wide-focus/17901-chemical-brothers-mix-it-up-with-a-fresh-design.html

Quote
Gear

4 grandMA2 Light consoles

74 Clay Paky Sharpys

8 Martin MAC Viper AirFX fixtures

3 Martin MAC Auras

6 Ayrton MagicBlade R fixtures

12 SGM X-5 white strobes

8 Solaris LED Flares

2 Solaris T-Light 80K strobes

6 Par 16 birdies

1 Martin Jem ZR33 smoke machine

2 Look Solutions Viper S smoke machines

4 Catalyst media servers

1 ROE Hybrid LED screen (16.8m x 9.6m, WxH)

12 Beamburst lasers

2 Scanning head lasers

2 Chemical Brothers lasers

7 2000 kg CM Lodestar motors

10 1000 kg CM Lodestar motors

7 500 kg Kinesys motors

Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 22, 2016, 16:34
2 Chemical Brothers lasers, eh.
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 22, 2016, 20:16
wanted to quote that too
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Csar on Jul 26, 2016, 06:03
Quote from: Skyscraper on Jul 22, 2016, 16:34

2 Chemical Brothers lasers, eh.
Don't look em into their eyes, brotha!
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 26, 2016, 16:49
Quote from: Csar on Jul 26, 2016, 06:03

Don't look em into their eyes, brotha!
but it's one of the six tasks you have to finish successfully to pass the acid test

the other five are:
5. explain where to start and where to begin
4. do the salmon dance
3. kling to them so they klong to you
2. don't think, just let it flow
1. answer what the airspeed velocity of an unlanded swallow is
Title: Re: The new Live setup!
Post by: Stefan on Jul 31, 2016, 15:55
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIhmx88BntX/