Hey,
The Chems will play a new mix on Lauren Laverne's show this Friday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001yx3
I don't assume that they will play completely new material from the upcoming album, but a new mix should be fun nonetheless!
DISCO MIX :o
nice, it's been a while!
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Jan 08, 2019, 19:58
nice, it's been a while!
I think the 2015 Christmas Mix on BBC was the last one? Gosh that was already three years ago!
Hi, I'm Tom from the Chemical Brothers, and you're listening to my mix on Apple Beats 1 Music.
If its a disco mix I feel like its a good platform to debut Got to Keep On hopefully. But they've just release MAH so too soon for another?
Quote from: MIKL on Jan 08, 2019, 22:03
If its a disco mix I feel like its a good platform to debut Got to Keep On hopefully. But they've just release MAH so too soon for another?
They might play the original Dance With Me by Peter Brown.
What other disco tracks do we know that the Chems like? I guess they could play El Coco's Mad As Hell...
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jan 09, 2019, 00:22
They might play the original Dance With Me by Peter Brown.
What other disco tracks do we know that the Chems like? I guess they could play El Coco's Mad As Hell...
Maybe inspiration behind Got Glint as well? I know I tracked down Stone Roller by Arpadys a while back they played from the Confront your demons mix because I loved that track a lot.
Quote from: MIKL on Jan 09, 2019, 10:04
Maybe inspiration behind Got Glint as well? I know I tracked down Stone Roller by Arpadys a while back they played from the Confront your demons mix because I loved that track a lot.
Yeah, that's a lovely tune!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8rywlfw38E
The whole Confront Your Demons mix is one of their best. Someone in the chems FB group actually was able to buy a copy of it. Need to check with him again for a good qual r..
Problem: Lauren Laverne has moved from a good spot to an much earlier spot - and i'm on my holidays so i don't want to wake up early just for this.
Solution 1: Listen to it later on the BBC website or, if i somehow move across the UK, using the BBC iPlayer Sounds app.
Solution 2: You, my dear peeps, are riping this und putting this up for me to download
Loud thinking: Maybe Ed's putting H.I.A. (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,134.msg16575.html#msg16575) in this mix
Nice, one unreleased track was played after MAH.
But now i'm listening the mix, and i think that was a snippet neither a full track.
I think the tracklist is all over the place. The Red Axes track is not played after MAH
Ok, Red Axes is played as a snippet at the beginning of MAH. "Unreleased track" I think is a vocal snippet with an acid loop at the beginning of the Masters at Work track.
Vocals go "We've got to try", and I think it's Aurora.
Agreed.
Lovely little mix. Especially the segues between Optimo Jam/ Magico Disco and Kraftwerk's Europe Endless was superb. Brought back some Christmas Mix feelings.
Their unreleased track had a bit of a 60/70s experimental feel to it, less electronicy.
If anyone is interested, I recorded the show, just sent me a pm.
Quote from: Ben_j on Jan 11, 2019, 11:07
I think the tracklist is all over the place. The Red Axes track is not played after MAH
Ok, Red Axes is played as a snippet at the beginning of MAH. "Unreleased track" I think is a vocal snippet with an acid loop at the beginning of the Masters at Work track.
Vocals go "We've got to try", and I think it's Aurora.
I thought it was the one that comes after Masters at Work, sounded so chemical.
Thank you! Great mix, yes! Can any of you share the tracklist? :music
Quote from: SouthernBrother on Jan 11, 2019, 18:58
Thank you! Great mix, yes! Can any of you share the tracklist? :music
It's in Stefan's BBC link above, starting with Millenium's Desert and going all the way down to Kraftwerk's Europe Endless which closes the mix.
I haven't had time to listen to it, but have you noticed this in the official tracklist:
Quote32 The Chemical Brothers
Problem FX
There's some Chemical history connected to tracks named "Problem", so might this be something special?
Quote from: Stefan on Jan 11, 2019, 21:23
I haven't had time to listen to it, but have you noticed this in the official tracklist:
There's some Chemical history connected to tracks named "Problem", so might this be something special?
That's what I hoped for, too, but unfortunately it's not. It's more like a segue effect that sort of sounds like the outro of Contact off of Daft Punk's RAM album.
The new unreleased tidbit (if I'm pinpointing it correctly) has an Avalanches type production quality to it.
Here is my crack at the vocals:
"I know we can make it go
...yes, I know we can make it go
...If we just tryyyyyyy
...we've got to tryyyyyyy"
Agree with Csar, I really enjoyed the last few tracks on this mix.
Quote from: Ben_j on Jan 11, 2019, 11:07
"Unreleased track" I think is a vocal snippet with an acid loop at the beginning of the Masters at Work track.
Vocals go "We've got to try", and I think it's Aurora.
Ooh, it's Saturday morning chez moi, and I haven't had a chance to listen to this yet. Just managed to find the bit you're talking about. I don't think it's Aurora, i think it's a MALE voice (a la Michael Jackson) and it may be a black one (not sure if Michael Jackson still relevant). I don't think it's actually Michael Jackson though (cause: sample costs and also we'd know it, probably). It's too soulful/funky a vocal to be Aurora.
Quote from: Bosco on Jan 11, 2019, 23:47
The new unreleased tidbit (if I'm pinpointing it correctly) has an Avalanches type production quality to it.
Here is my crack at the vocals:
"I know we can make it go
...yes, I know we can make it go
...If we just tryyyyyyy
...we've got to tryyyyyyy"
Won't argue with your Avalanches comparison, will argue with your lyrics.
It's gotta be: "I know we can make it GIRL" etc
I'm struggling with the last vocal line though: "just don't matter what I be baby". Or something.
I also think there may be tracks in the mix not mentioned at all on the BBC page. But it's 4am and I should be fast asleep. May add more comments tomorrow/today.
Without headphones I can see how you hear "girl". But with headphones. I'm still hearing "go".
Additionally, I just realized 'Europe Endless' reminds me of New Order's 'Your Silent Face'
I heard "girl" as well at first listening but now I think it's "go" too. And I agree with Wolkenkrabber, her voice sounds soul-ish. Too bad they didn't talk about it a bit, what it is or was meant to be or if it just fell behind one of their sofas etc. pp.
it's shazamble
I've yet to investigate it fully but it's definitely from this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4lqU08BWU
EDIT: 3:05 and beyond you'll find all the notable parts
Smooth!
and it's "girl"... so assuming this is part of a new track, I'm gonna steal Wolkenkrabber's thunder and chalk this up as another interpolation.
I'm learnding!
Quote from: Bosco on Jan 12, 2019, 08:17
Additionally, I just realized 'Europe Endless' reminds me of New Order's 'Your Silent Face'
If you look at a copy of New Order's stage setlists, they often have KW1 as one of the tracks such as here (6th track) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C81odbNXcAAM-Of.jpg). KW stands for Kraftwerk. The track is actually Your Silent Face. They were trying to write something that sounded like Kraftwerk. I guess they succeeded.
Quote from: Bosco on Jan 12, 2019, 08:49
and it's "girl"... so assuming this is part of a new track, I'm gonna steal Wolkenkrabber's thunder and chalk this up as another interpolation.
I'm learnding!
Oh it
is Shazamable! Took me about ten attempts, mind you. However it can't be an interpolation if Shazam recognizes it. Interpolation = recreation. Shazam wouldn't recognise it unless it was a direct part (sample) of the original song.
14/01/19: Eh, why am I editing this post? I'm not now!
hmmmm... well maybe it caught the instrumental part that can be found at the beginning part of the Hallelujah Chorus track, which also can be heard on the mix. I didn't really take note of where it exactly "shazamed" it.
But don't you detect a change in the vocals though? Just listening to them over again, I'm pretty certain it's not the original female vocal, and that's the part where I'm pointing out interpolation.
Edit: correction, original vocal is male singing in falsetto. New one sounds female.
Quote from: Bosco on Jan 12, 2019, 16:44
But don't you detect a change in the vocals though? Just listening to them over again, I'm pretty certain it's not the original female vocal, and that's the part where I'm pointing out interpolation.
Edit: correction, original vocal is male singing in falsetto. New one sounds female.
This much I'm sure of: the "new" vocal has had the backing vox and much of the music stripped away. And the last "try" on the new version is diferent from the record.
But could it have been pitch shifted? Could it have also been cleverly "acapella'd" from the original recording? I'm honestly not sure now. And I'll admit I'm not sure as to the gender of the vocal(s) either. The original song (from...what year? *EDIT*:1973 (https://www.discogs.com/Various-Eccentric-Soul-The-Nickel-Penny-Labels/release/3283705) ) would have been daring to have a female vocal singing romantic overtures to a girl back then. Anyway, I'm still hanging on to the idea that it's an original sample that's been manipulated. For now.
Thoughts on the Desert Island mix (now that I've heard the whole thing):I agree with others re "Problem FX", it's just a rising noise like a steam kettle or the Daft Punk distorted nose.
Red Axes' Teroof is not after MAH (as the BBC page has it), it's playing under the intro to MAH. I would list it beforehand.
After MAH we get a snippet of intro from Masters At Work (most of which is originally a sample of Mikey Dread, just to confuse things).
Then we get the new Chems track (featuring vox from The Halleluiah Chorus).
And then we get more of the Masters At Work track.
I think the new track was mixed into the Masters... track because it has a similar beat to Justa Lil Dope (whose drums were originally sampled from a Schoooly D track - just to add more confusion).
The Feed-back- The Feed-back should have a hyphen in there. Although that doesn't save it from being horrible, apart from the drums. Freeform jazz 'melodies'? No thanks.
I think Optimo Jam is mis-named. It's Golden Teacher: "Party People", released on the
Optimo Music label (as in: JD Twitch) . So I think the label and artist have been mixed up here. Unless someone begs to differ (did the Optimo boys feature this track in a 'jam'?). I remember posting some Golden Teacher in Now Playing back in 2016 when Ed "raised awareness" of them, so perhaps this was one of his choices for the mix.
https://twitter.com/eddychemical/status/688124354840793088
So I think the tracklist should look like this:
The Millennium - The Island
Clint Eastwood & General Saint - Hey Mr D.J.
(The Chemical Brothers - Problem FX)
Master Jay & Michael Dee - T.S.O.B. (The Sound of Brooklyn)
Red Axes - Teroof
The Chemical Brothers - MAH
Masters at Work - Justa 'Lil' Dope (intro)
The Chemical Brothers - Unreleased Track feat. The Halleluiah Chorus - I've Got To Find A Way
Masters at Work - Justa 'Lil' Dope (main)
The Feed-back - The Feed-back
Beastie Boys - Stand Together
Optimo Jam - Optimo Jam Golden Teacher - Party People
Margot - Magico Disco
Kraftwerk - Europe Endless
Shakespeare - The Tempest
ps: Another thought to add to my Kraftwerk comments in my previous post; the little melody in the latter part of Europe Endless was borrowed by Afrikaa Bambataa for Planet Rock.
Quote from: Bosco on Jan 12, 2019, 08:36
it's shazamble
I've yet to investigate it fully but it's definitely from this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4lqU08BWU
EDIT: 3:05 and beyond you'll find all the notable parts
holy crap! how in the hell did they strip the vocals clean off that record?
EDIT: iknow i know. some audio technology made it happen. impressed nevertheless.
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Jan 13, 2019, 22:12
holy crap! how in the hell did they strip the vocals clean off that record?
EDIT: iknow i know. some audio technology made it happen. impressed nevertheless.
It's recreation/interpolation neither direct sample, as Skyscraper mentioned earlier.
Chems track vocal have been recreated, and not sampled, I'm 100% sure.
Quote from: Explud on Jan 14, 2019, 07:02
It's recreation/interpolation neither direct sample, as Skyscraper mentioned earlier.
Actually I suggested it was a sample that has then been manipulated and pitch-shifted. Bosco said it has been recreated. I'm not saying I'm right, just clarifying what I said.
Quote from: Ben_j on Jan 14, 2019, 08:16
Chems track vocal have been recreated, and not sampled, I'm 100% sure.
It's weird that Bosco and I managed to shazam it. Does that mean it's part-sample and part- recreation? That would be unusual. Not impossible, but unusual.
It's shazam, nothing unusual)) But it's mean that it's very good recreation. ;D
What makes me think it's not a sample:
- The "We've got to try" part is not sung in the same key at all
- there's only the vocal and not the other parts of the track
- they have used this technique on a lot of tracks
Did someone manage to record the mix ?