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Forum => Music: Response => Topic started by: Ben_j on May 29, 2017, 18:40

Poll
Question: Next / New Single
Option 1: Mad As Hell / EBW12
Option 2: Gotta Keep On (Make Me High)
Option 3: Eve Of Destruction
Option 4: something else / previously unknown
Option 5: Dope Coil [Version]
Option 6: Free Yourself
Title: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on May 29, 2017, 18:40
I'll try to keep this post updated with videos from potential new Chems track from the recent DJ Sets. If I forgot some, let me know !

Free Yourself/Me/Them/Us, dance
Chances of being a new Chems track in my opinion: 90%
Lyrics go : "Free yourself, free me, dance. Free yourself, free them, dance. Free yourself, help to free me, free us. Free yourself, help to free me, free us."
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTO56HHjp9_/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEqGsgsNBUk
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTl2OxqFLlu/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xv7uiWMEyU

Gotta keep on making me high
Chances of being a new Chems track in my opinion: 100% (Ed kinda confirmed it to me on Twitter)
Funky bassline and sampled vocals from (apparently) Peter Brown - Dance With me : "Gotta keep on making me high, gotta keep on making me high"
At 3:59:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3HcIOTf658&t=3m59s
https://www.instagram.com/p/BchqSsKF97z/

African Survivor
Chances of being a new Chems track in my opinion: 25%
They haven't played this in Lyon (will double check but I think they didn't), so I'm not sure it's a new one. They actually DID play it in Lyon, although it's very short, it's just a segue of 30 seconds in the middle of a techno track that doesn't sound very chemical. I'd put my money on an edit, like System of Survival and Lack of Love.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTNefEMjrox/

Life of Galileo club track
Being used in Life of Galileo, this is now 100% sure, that "Here come the drums" (I'm pretty sure it's not Here come the drums though) is a new Chems track, or at least a Tom Rowlands track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3WLZ9SUlbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyAyxKPbSqY

Eve of Destruction
New set opener (which is a good clue to indicate a new track), debuted at Torino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnaPDqScfM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaSJViKl-qH
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaQsoEbleXp
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaRZbyZj4hP
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaRlws7nxiX
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcNHYzQgVZk/
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bendy1001 on May 29, 2017, 19:20
Thanks a lot Ben_J! This is the sort of stuff I probably wouldn't know about if it weren't for this forum, like Problem/Question
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on May 29, 2017, 21:04
Quote from: Ben_j on May 29, 2017, 18:40

Gotta keep on making me high
Chances of being a new Chems track in my opinion: 75%
Funky bassline and sampled vocals from (apparently) Peter Brown - Dance With me
You weren't tempted to get your phone out for this by any chance?  O:-) (is this smiley too feminine?)
Have you checked through all 14 tracks listed on WhoSampled that borrowed from this Dennis Brown track? Just in case?

Quote from: Ben_j on May 29, 2017, 18:40

African Survivor
Chances of being a new Chems track in my opinion: 50%
They haven't played this in Lyon (will double check but I think they didn't), so I'm not sure it's a new one. I'd rather put my money on an edit, like System of Survival and Lack of Love.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BTNefEMjrox/
It sounds kinda rough and unfinished doesn't it? Like something that wouldn't have been released by ...anyone. Which makes me think it might be a battle weapon or Tom edit. It doesn't (at the moment) sound like something that would land on a Chems album.
Incidentally, there's a difference between SOS and Lack of Love, i.e only the second one is really a Chemical edit. I'm tempted to think that African Survivor falls into this latter category.

Also, I know it's not a secret that Tom is the musical prime mover out of T&E but presumably they do still discuss what they're listening to with each other.  As well as Ed mentioning Pazy & the Black Hippies on instagram, he also follows a playlist on spotify called Afro Disco (with 258 songs!). So perhaps the Brothers are having an "African" phase at the mo...
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on May 30, 2017, 22:26
Edited my post to add a "Gotta keep on making me high" video
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Jul 10, 2017, 20:57
Edited to add the Life of Galileo club track
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Explud on Oct 17, 2017, 11:52
Quote from: Ben_j on Jul 10, 2017, 20:57

Edited to add the Life of Galileo club track
Do not forget that some of the beats from "Live of Galileo/HCTD" track has been used in 2016 live show after Star Guitar, which also confirms the theory that this is a Chems track.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Nov 01, 2017, 19:32
Edited to add Eve of Destruction
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: UltimatePelmeni on Nov 01, 2017, 20:57
Quote from: Ben_j on Jul 10, 2017, 20:57

Edited to add the Life of Galileo club track
It's good to know that this track is alive. I really wanted it to be on the new album when hearing it for the first time back in 2013. And i was really upset that there were some tracks like 'Taste of Honey' on BITE (which were actually not quite good) and this one wasn't.


Quote from: Explud on Oct 17, 2017, 11:52
Do not forget that some of the beats from "Live of Galileo/HCTD" track has been used in 2016 live show after Star Guitar, which also confirms the theory that this is a Chems track.
To my ears 'Gotta keep...' also has these beats.

from 4:37
https://youtu.be/b3HcIOTf658?t=4m37s
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Biff on Dec 06, 2017, 20:45
Is that a Freak of the Week sample I hear 20 seconds into the second Life of Galileo video?
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Enjoyed on Dec 06, 2017, 22:13
Quote from: Biff on Dec 06, 2017, 20:45

Is that a Freak of the Week sample I hear 20 seconds into the second Life of Galileo video?

Yep. It ends with it too. Waaaaay slow though.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Explud on Dec 06, 2017, 22:56
Maybe i'm just paranoid, but bassline from Eve of Destruction sounds similar to GKOMMH?
Yeah, it's a little bit different, but it's.. some kind, of, it looks similar, not only just by the sound.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Explud on Dec 06, 2017, 23:07
And again. I mention this here.
You need to be more attentive to their live performances. When i saw this (somewhere at 11:41):

Quote from: wrclaguna on Sep 29, 2017, 19:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry6751jNWFU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry6751jNWFU)

I immediately remembered this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTNeDeOuU4E

Yeah, it have a different BPM, but it sounds sooo close.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Dec 07, 2017, 09:51
Quote from: Explud on Dec 06, 2017, 23:07

And again. I mention this here.
You need to be more attentive to their live performances. When i saw this (somewhere at 11:41):

I immediately remembered this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTNeDeOuU4E

Yeah, it have a different BPM, but it sounds sooo close.

It's not a Chems track https://soundcloud.com/weareentschuldigung/con
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Explud on Dec 07, 2017, 11:34
Ah, ok. I was wrong)
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Dec 07, 2017, 16:04
The loop at 12:20 though, before Bolis Pupul - Teknow, I think it could be from the Chems
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 07, 2017, 17:14
Quote from: Ben_j on Dec 07, 2017, 16:04

The loop at 12:20 though, before Bolis Pupul - Teknow, I think it could be from the Chems
I was listening to the Nuits Sonores set a little while ago and thinking about this.
The tracklisting on the forum facebook page goes:
0:11:34 Entschuldigung - C.O.N.
0:15:55 ID
0:17:20 Bolis Pupul - Teknow (Edit)
0:19:00 ID

My thought is that the re-edit of Bolis Pupil actually starts at 15.55. In other words, yes I agree that the loop is probably a Chemical addition. But my hunch is that it won't appear as a separate track, it's just part of the re-edit.
Also I would probably change the start time from 15.55 to 15.32. And I think the vocal noises from 19.00 to 19.30 are part of the Bolus Pupil re-edit too.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Csar on Dec 08, 2017, 15:02
I've got to say, from what I've heard so far, I'm not a fan of Eve of Destruction if this indeed turns out to be a chems track.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: hstn on Dec 08, 2017, 16:27
Quote from: Csar on Dec 08, 2017, 15:02

I've got to say, from what I've heard so far, I'm not a fan of Eve of Destruction if this indeed turns out to be a chems track.

I can kind of see why. The song's a total earworm for me (mostly because i dig old school house and disco vibes) but hearing the full Printworks video I was hoping it would build into a bigger track, I imagine they'll flesh it out more in the months or years to come, ik EML Ritual's been around since 2014, as with Reflexion being earlier
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: ThePumisher on Dec 08, 2017, 17:02
Quote from: Csar on Dec 08, 2017, 15:02

I've got to say, from what I've heard so far, I'm not a fan of Eve of Destruction if this indeed turns out to be a chems track.
You must see the beauty in this track - for example, think how it would have sounded if it features vocals from Miguel...
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Csar on Dec 08, 2017, 22:32
Quote from: ThePumisher on Dec 08, 2017, 17:02

You must see the beauty in this track - for example, think how it would have sounded if it features vocals from Miguel...
Dude, this is not a game!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: WhiteNoise on Dec 11, 2017, 11:22
Of all the tracks from Born in the Echoes that most foreshadowed their upcoming tunes, never expected Just Bang to be the one. I can really get down to Gotta Keep On Making Me High but Eve of Destruction and Free Yourself feel too much like Tom solo material.

I have a strong feeling they're doing something similar to 1996 and 2004 in the upcoming year, where they toured ahead of their albums and demoed new material, instead of supporting a released / very-soon-to-be released album. Considering they haven't dropped a whole lot of new material and quite a bit of it feels more Tom-solo oriented, but we'll see.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 11, 2017, 15:35
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Dec 11, 2017, 11:22

I can really get down to Gotta Keep On Making Me High
Agreed, this is easily my favourite of the three.

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Dec 11, 2017, 11:22
but Eve of Destruction...
the 'busy' parts of this track remind me of Inner City's Good Life and Big Fun, although clearly the theme couldn't be more different.
Ignoring my suggestion elsewhere that it's a cover of the Barry Maguire song, thematically it reminds me of Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds (Eve of the war). I believe I bought the 12" Ben Liebrand remix of Eve Of The War "back in the day". And listening to it now at 49 seconds (https://youtu.be/mX2IQ0-zVgk?t=49s) it actually seems to borrow a bit of Inner City's Big Fun (https://youtu.be/Gr-zG-IXDyo?t=1s) (but turns the synths into 'strings'). Coincidence?

I have this image in my head of a musical theatre actress popping up on stage in torn clothing singing "we can't afford the water..." as though this was a new apocalyptic musical that Tom has got involved with. Anyway...the track is a bit frustrating insofar as every time it feels like it's going to take off, it breaks down to the bare bones. Needs a Skream remix.

Quote from: WhiteNoise on Dec 11, 2017, 11:22

and Free Yourself...

I like this one, - the cello/strings near the start and the way it takes off later on. But Diane's voice is quite harsh and repetitive. I wonder if it could benefit from being put lower in the mix or having reverb or something added to it. Just to soften things a little bit. She's 83 now btw, I wonder if she knows about this track.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: neorev on Dec 11, 2017, 16:32
To be honest, I ain't that excited by the new snippets I'm hearing. It's the club/dance 4x4 Chem Bros that's not really my favorite side of theirs. Where's the beats?!?!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: GLAKO-FAHN on Dec 11, 2017, 22:40
This all feels like 2002–2003. In a good way.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Dec 12, 2017, 13:10
Printworks Eve Of Destruction video: "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by IFPI".
They don't even need bots do they? Just visit this forum.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Jan 03, 2018, 10:59
Quote from: Skyscraper on Dec 12, 2017, 13:10

Printworks Eve Of Destruction video: "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by IFPI".
They don't even need bots do they? Just visit this forum.
Damn, almost all videos were taken down on youtube :/
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: hstn on Jan 08, 2018, 23:17
Quote from: Ben_j on Jan 03, 2018, 10:59

Damn, almost all videos were taken down on youtube :/

I actually did manage to rip the audio from the Printworks Eve Of Destruction video, I loved it that much I didn't want to risk losing what'll probably be the only full video so far :3

I didn't know whether to post it or not because I know y'all are really careful about leaks!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Csar on Jan 09, 2018, 11:25
Quote from: hstn on Jan 08, 2018, 23:17

I actually did manage to rip the audio from the Printworks Eve Of Destruction video, I loved it that much I didn't want to risk losing what'll probably be the only full video so far :3

I didn't know whether to post it or not because I know y'all are really careful about leaks!
I don't think there is any trouble because it's a) a non-commercial live recording and b) not yet officially a Chems tune. Rules about leaks should not apply here.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Mar 06, 2018, 09:19
Does anyone have recordings of the removed Youtube videos ?
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Csar on Mar 07, 2018, 22:40
Quote from: Ben_j on Mar 06, 2018, 09:19

Does anyone have recordings of the removed Youtube videos ?
I happen to have downloaded the 2017 Free Yourself from Barcelona and that track from 2013 (Warehouse set?).

https://www.sendspace.com/file/0jxlt2
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ore9pk

And here's a short clip from Printworks with a few seconds of Make Me High at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6SS6Jftw8
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: hstn on Mar 08, 2018, 02:21
Eve Of Destruction here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110uhJIYNjsTSLqb8tOp1SzfL3C2V6o3x/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Skylined21 on May 23, 2018, 00:31
I really dig Gotta Keep On Making Me High and Free yourself :music. I would like to hear a proper version of the first one, the youtube recording clip is lacking bass, the instagram clip has more punch into it (which is good) but it fades for most of its duration. Hope they play these live next month.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: wrclaguna on Jun 16, 2018, 04:57
 :music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGntyRvcTc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGntyRvcTc)
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: MIKL on Jun 19, 2018, 10:33
Quote from: hstn on Mar 08, 2018, 02:21

Eve Of Destruction here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110uhJIYNjsTSLqb8tOp1SzfL3C2V6o3x/view?usp=sharing


After getting reacquainted with this one. It reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnUDjMtiGCA
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Csar on Jun 27, 2018, 19:09
Not sure if this was discovered already but this youtuber below linked Gotta Keep On with this 1978 disco track for the new track's eponymous sample

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mV_O9Sih-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKz2b0T2F3s
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 27, 2018, 19:34
Quote from: Csar on Jun 27, 2018, 19:09

Not sure if this was discovered already but this youtuber below linked Gotta Keep On with this 1978 disco track for the new track's eponymous sample

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKz2b0T2F3s

Yes it's been mentioned several times including the (updated) first post of this thread.
As I've said elsewhere, I think it's a re-recording/recreation rather than a direct sample.
My bet is that they used Replay Heaven like they did with SIFSD.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Csar on Jun 28, 2018, 08:50
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 27, 2018, 19:34
Yes it's been mentioned several times including the (updated) first post of this thread.
Argh, should have read more thoroughly. Ok, seems like I'm always ten steps behind.

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 27, 2018, 19:34

As I've said elsewhere, I think it's a re-recording/recreation rather than a direct sample.
My bet is that they used Replay Heaven like they did with SIFSD.
Sounds interesting but I'm not sure if I'd be a fan of this. Re-creating samples, hmm... well, less work and no royalties I guess..
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 28, 2018, 09:58
Quote from: Csar on Jun 28, 2018, 08:50

I'm not sure if I'd be a fan of this. Re-creating samples, hmm... well, less work and no royalties I guess..
I guess it depends on the sample. If someone tries to recreate James Brown's voice it's probably gonna sound silly. Mind you when I mentioned them HERE (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,60.msg11849.html#msg11849) it related to Marvin Gaye. Although I suppose it wasn't necessarily meant to sound like Marvin Gaye.
Samples are so expensive, I wonder if we'll ever get another album like Endtroducing. Apparently there won't be another Paul's Boutique . From this 2011 article (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110414/03271513892/how-copyright-law-makes-sample-based-music-impossibly-expensive-if-you-want-to-do-it-legally.shtml):
Quote
a lot of the samples on Paul's Boutique actually were cleared�but they were cleared at a time, 1989, when the industry didn't really see the value of sampling yet, so the rates for copyright clearances were much lower. Today, the rates they'd have to pay would make it impossible. Based on the number and type of samples in that record, Peter figured out that Capitol Records would lose 20 million dollars on a record that sold 2.5 million units.
If you look at Replay Heaven's Website (http://www.replayheaven.com/) you'll see a LOT of people are using them. In the case of Got To Keep On, I think I actually prefer the new vocals to Betty Wright's original vox on the above track.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Jun 29, 2018, 18:23
Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 28, 2018, 09:58

If you look at Replay Heaven's Website (http://www.replayheaven.com/) you'll see a LOT of people are using them. In the case of Got To Keep On, I think I actually prefer the new vocals to Betty Wright's original vox on the above track.

Interesting. So maybe, as we've discussed before, Dissolve's interpolation of the guitar riff from Freeheat - 'The Two of Us' (Jesus and Mary Chain side project)
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwreICT7eEo
was outsourced through a similar process as well? Of course it could still be coincidence, though I'll admit I've yet to hear that guitar riff elsewhere.

Also, I would assume Tom and Ed would be more than capable of recreating something they wanted to sample, without sampling a song in it's natural form. What would be the reason for outsourcing this? Wider degree of separation?

Edit: As you guys alluded to, royalties most likely.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jun 29, 2018, 20:18
Quote from: Bosco on Jun 29, 2018, 18:23

Edit: As you guys alluded to, royalties most likely.
Yep. And they don't even need separation, they gave writing credits on BITE for SIFSD and have also given writing credit to Peter Brown (as per the SACEM thread) for Got To Keep On.

Quote from: Bosco on Jun 29, 2018, 18:23

Also, I would assume Tom and Ed would be more than capable of recreating something they wanted to sample, without sampling a song in it's natural form

I think there's a difference between collaboration with say Beck or Aurora and needing some session vocals done. They haven't recorded in London since 2007 and I don't imagine there are too many session vocalists out in Lewes near the RAR studios. I guess if the third party can provide a profesional vocal, then why not? I imagine if they wanted to recreate synths/guitars they wouldn't need to use Replay Heaven.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Jun 29, 2018, 21:17
I think I understand it.

I guess I would ask (which you might not know the answer to) do artists that get writing credits like Peter Brown and Kenny Bobien (SIFSD) still get payed for their original idea (which ultimately gets altered)? Or is this the music industries way of bypassing royalties altogether, but still crediting the original writer?

(hope that made sense)
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: WhiteNoise on Jun 29, 2018, 21:27
Yes - it's like how Underworld had to credit / pay Giorgio Moroder and Donna Summer for King of Snake since the bassline of that song was so similar to I Feel Love's, even though there was absolutely no sampling or conscious connection when Underworld wrote King of Snake. They pay out for that, but it's a small amount.

*However*, if Underworld had sampled the bassline of I Feel Love, they'd have to credit and pay Moroder / Summer for both the writing credit and performance credit. Writing and performance are treated as two separate things, and that would have been more expensive.

Basically, it's cheaper to re-perform something yourself, or hire a session musician to re-perform something for you, than it is to actually sample the thing because the cost of you doing it yourself (or one-time hiring a session musician to do it) is much cheaper than lifetime performance credit payments.

But... it's weird. And that whole writing/performance thing might only apply to radio music licencing, and I could be talking out my ass. It's weird.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Jun 29, 2018, 21:32
So It's pretty much safe to say there will never, ever, be a recorded version of TPPR with 'Sympathy for the Devil' that gets formatted for distribution.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: WhiteNoise on Jun 29, 2018, 21:37
Quote from: Bosco on Jun 29, 2018, 21:32

So It's pretty much safe to say there will never, ever, be a recorded version of TPPR with 'Sympathy for the Devil' that gets formatted for distribution.
After how hard The Verve got screwed with Bittersweet Symphony, absolutely never. We're more likely to hear the Chemical Beats / Tomorrow Never Knows live mash.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: neorev on Jun 29, 2018, 23:50
Quote from: WhiteNoise on Jun 29, 2018, 21:27

Yes - it's like how Underworld had to credit / pay Giorgio Moroder and Donna Summer for King of Snake since the bassline of that song was so similar to I Feel Love's, even though there was absolutely no sampling or conscious connection when Underworld wrote King of Snake. They pay out for that, but it's a small amount.

*However*, if Underworld had sampled the bassline of I Feel Love, they'd have to credit and pay Moroder / Summer for both the writing credit and performance credit. Writing and performance are treated as two separate things, and that would have been more expensive.

Basically, it's cheaper to re-perform something yourself, or hire a session musician to re-perform something for you, than it is to actually sample the thing because the cost of you doing it yourself (or one-time hiring a session musician to do it) is much cheaper than lifetime performance credit payments.

But... it's weird. And that whole writing/performance thing might only apply to radio music licencing, and I could be talking out my ass. It's weird.

Actually, something interesting pertaining to this that you may find interesting is The Prodigy's track The Way It Is from their album Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. It is heavily based on a recreation of Michael Jackson's Thriller riff. How Liam avoided having to pay a huge royalty to Michael Jackson was to recreate the part of the track, with the help of Matt Robertson and Rinse, instead of sampling it. When you sample music, you need two clearances: one from the copyright owner of the song, which is usually a music publisher, and one from the copyright owner of the master tapes, which is usually a record company. By him recreating it instead of sampling the original song, he cut out those fees he would have to pay Michael Jackson, his publishers, and label. Michael Jackson may have sung and performed on the original recording, but actual the song was written by Rod Temperton thus Liam only had to pay him and him alone for his writing credit and no audio from the original recording was used. This way is a hell of lot cheaper compared to sampling a piece of audio and having to pay Jackson and all those involved with its creation and release. 
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Jul 01, 2018, 23:03
Remember how the "Let's turn this thing electric" part was different in the promo copies of Do it Again ? I think it was a sample going "I'll sing the funk electric". It might be the first occurrence of the Chems recreating and altering a vocal sample
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: orangewedge99 on Jul 02, 2018, 16:01
I found the sample from the "African Survivor"-Track, played in their recent DJ Sets.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTNefEMjrox/


Here it is, starting at about 00:38. (Basabasa Experience - African Soul Power)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHNpxts-F8A

What an awesome track!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 06, 2018, 12:06
So i was listening to Lauren Lavernes show right now while doing stuff, and at the end of the show she said something like "new music from (couple of artist) and The Chemical Brothers next week". Maybe i got this wrong because, like i said, i was doing stuff and thereby not listening properly. But if i got this right => behold, they're coming back!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Ben_j on Jul 06, 2018, 13:08
Whoever did the poll forgot Free Yourself  :o
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: ThePumisher on Jul 06, 2018, 13:12
Quote from: Ben_j on Jul 06, 2018, 13:08

Whoever did the poll forgot Free Yourself  :o
shame's on me then
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 06, 2018, 15:14
Quote from: ThePumisher on Jul 06, 2018, 12:06

she said something like "new music from (couple of artist) and The Chemical Brothers next week". Maybe i got this wrong
Maybe you got it wrong   :(.  For those with the ability to listen back to the show (do you need a proxy outside the UK? I think you need to "log in" anyway), jump to 2hrs,40mins,04secs HERE (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b7jfxm). Lauren is talking about Marbert Rocel's "I Wanna" track. She took it from Sasha's new Fabric 99 (https://www.residentadvisor.net/reviews/22719) mix album. She mentions that Sasha has produced and remixed the likes of Madonna and The Chemical Brothers. I believe that's the only Chems mention on today's show.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: neorev on Jul 06, 2018, 17:51
Free Yourself and Gotta Keep On feel more complete than Mad As Hell as the moment.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: WhiteNoise on Jul 07, 2018, 15:20
I don't know if any of the tracks are really finished yet, but they're probably very close. I imagine Mad as Hell is getting released in its more rough and ready state in the true spirit of the Electronic Battle Weapons. Sometimes I Feel So Deserted felt like it was crowned an EBW as an after-thought. But I absolutely get Acid Children, Freak of the Week and EBW 9 vibes from Mad as Hell right now.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Biff on Jul 07, 2018, 15:24
EBW 10 - EBW 11 was a bit of a deviation from the rest of the series...
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: AddictedToIt on Jul 11, 2018, 15:41
Mad as hell is lit af...
HYPED  >:D

Loved it on RIR 2018 live act :o
https://youtu.be/zpoPKmxvSBA
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jul 14, 2018, 06:04
Big time bump

Quote from: hstn on Mar 08, 2018, 02:21

Eve Of Destruction here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110uhJIYNjsTSLqb8tOp1SzfL3C2V6o3x/view?usp=sharing

Taking a break from GKOMMH, I totally forgot this post about it. And in the same vibe I got from 'High', this track is such a stomper. Sweet baseline, great late 80's/ early 90's house vibe,
Terrorizing robot vocals, and something about water!

Not a fan yet of MAH, but starting to like FY more, due to those funky breaks in the middle of the track, which give it a little 'Base 6' feel.

I really like what this upcoming album is shaping up to! I feel as a whole, it can be good enough to sit next to Surrender and DYOH imo.

Worth the freaking wait!


Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: MIKL on Jul 14, 2018, 13:03
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Jul 14, 2018, 06:04

Big time bump

Taking a break from GKOMMH, I totally forgot this post about it. And in the same vibe I got from 'High', this track is such a stomper. Sweet baseline, great late 80's/ early 90's house vibe,
Terrorizing robot vocals, and something about water!

Not a fan yet of MAH, but starting to like FY more, due to those funky breaks in the middle of the track, which give it a little 'Base 6' feel.

I really like what this upcoming album is shaping up to! I feel as a whole, it can be good enough to sit next to Surrender and DYOH imo.

Worth the freaking wait!

Been listening to that version of EOD a bit. Love all the mash up of yester year dance/funk melodies and rhythms with her voice. She sings 'We can't the afford water, Everyone is left to die, Keep running Keep running' I think. (then 'Keep dancing, Keep dancing')
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jul 15, 2018, 21:35
Quote from: MIKL on Jul 14, 2018, 13:03

Been listening to that version of EOD a bit. Love all the mash up of yester year dance/funk melodies and rhythms with her voice. She sings 'We can't the afford water, Everyone is left to die, Keep running Keep running' I think. (then 'Keep dancing, Keep dancing')

I'm still trying to figure out what the robot voice is saying! There's another voice in there singing 'gotta find a friend so let me be' Is that Aurora or another singer?


Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Jul 15, 2018, 22:47
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Jul 15, 2018, 21:35

There's another voice in there singing 'gotta find a friend so let me be' Is that Aurora or another singer?
It's a sample: "goin' to find a friend to spend the weekend".
It's almost as though some people don't read all my posts (https://forum.thechembase.com/index.php/topic,709.msg11848.html#msg11848) with 100% gusto!!
The lyrics dont really fit the rest of the track but I guess the sample fills the space nicely.
Jump to 0.49 seconds (well 0.57 really):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYxPBXgKcyY
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Explud on Jul 16, 2018, 00:28
What a spot! Nice find, небоскреб!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: ThePumisher on Aug 16, 2018, 17:19
We have a winner from the poll:

Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 16, 2018, 16:04

https://twitter.com/ChemBros/status/1030121225044013056

Didn't embed because: emojis. It says radio interview with Ed.

"Free Yourself" (out in september)
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Aug 16, 2018, 18:00
Nothing like a totally inconspicuous untranslated interview to break the news  ::)


seriously though, SEPTEMBER!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 16, 2018, 18:41
Set me free why don't you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bjMtqpGBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZF-skCY-M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQr-U410JOw

And when it comes out the Chems can say: I knew you were waiting.
RIP Aretha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDxzQJaA228
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: neorev on Aug 16, 2018, 19:42
Quote from: ThePumisher on Aug 16, 2018, 17:19

We have a winner from the poll:

"Free Yourself" (out in september)

And album next year
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Aug 16, 2018, 22:58
Quote from: neorev on Aug 16, 2018, 19:42

And album next year

whoa whoa whooooooooa! big gap between sept and jan!

album gotta be sooner than that

EDIT: just read the other thread. ed says its due next year! makes sense because after this tour is over this year, off to the studio they go..
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Aug 16, 2018, 23:52
Quote from: neorev on Aug 16, 2018, 19:42

And album next year

Here comes the Coachella rumors...

I'm curious if the interest from both parties has wavered though. It will be the 20 Year anniversary of Coachella, and The Chemical Brothers were on the original lineup. So I don't know if that means anything...

The single North American date in Mexico this November is still super strange.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: MIKL on Aug 18, 2018, 11:11
Quote from: inchemwetrust on Jul 15, 2018, 21:35

I'm still trying to figure out what the robot voice is saying! There's another voice in there singing 'gotta find a friend so let me be' Is that Aurora or another singer?

Do you mean the more robot male voice that raps a couple of verses 33seconds in after Aurora's robot voice says 'Eve of Destruction'? Can't understand all of it but sounds like in second verse of his the last 2 words are 'is justified' and the first verse is something rhymes like signified.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: MIKL on Sep 17, 2018, 05:11
Quote from: MIKL on Aug 18, 2018, 11:11

Do you mean the more robot male voice that raps a couple of verses 33seconds in after Aurora's robot voice says 'Eve of Destruction'? Can't understand all of it but sounds like in second verse of his the last 2 words are 'is justified' and the first verse is something rhymes like signified.

UPDATE on lyrics:

Just listened to it again and the last verse of the mysterious robot rapper is 'sacrifice is justified'
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Nov 22, 2018, 21:25
Quote from: hstn on Mar 08, 2018, 02:21

Eve Of Destruction here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110uhJIYNjsTSLqb8tOp1SzfL3C2V6o3x/view?usp=sharing

A well deserved bump from March! I now anticipate some changes when it gets played again on the 2019 tour.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jan 24, 2019, 19:11
My bad! See next post!
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Jan 24, 2019, 19:23
(https://i.imgur.com/tNRvLZQ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
(https://i.imgur.com/QL9JZbJ.jpg)
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: orangewedge99 on Jan 24, 2019, 20:18
The Eve of Destruction... now shazamable...

Should be released quite soon. Album information on shazam is NO GEOGRAPHY.
Full album announcement with artwork and tracklist should be coming quite soon...

Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Jan 24, 2019, 22:08
Nice work Orangewedge99.

and on that note, I tried shazaming the mystery tune from the Lauren Laverne show again, and it has a new match.

We've Got to Try - 'No Geography' - The Chemical Brothers


Edit: 'Gotta Keep On', not shazamble...
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Enjoyed on Jan 25, 2019, 02:04
Woah really!? That's very cool detective work.

Well done, team.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: inchemwetrust on Feb 28, 2019, 19:03
ok lets see...

FY....sept 2018
MAH...early jan 2019
GTKO....late jan 2019

Album release is in April,so maybe a good chance that EVE is coming(predicting a mid march release!)

Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: SouthernBrother on Mar 03, 2019, 20:29
Fan-tas-tic news!

https://m.facebook.com/story/graphql_permalink/?graphql_id=UzpfSTE5MzExMjQ3MjQwOjEwMTU3Nzc1Nzc0Mjc3MjQx

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157493859692590&id=5985827589
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Bosco on Mar 03, 2019, 21:07
Regarding esports and online streamers...

::)

Guys, I like video games but the success of networked competitive gaming, and turning video games into a streaming event which then turns video game streaming hosts into celebrity, makes me sick. I suppose this is one of those "old man yells at cloud" moments...

Anyway... Yaah! New Track! Looks like Inchem was on the money on his prediction.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Wolkenkrabber on Mar 03, 2019, 22:25
That's E Sports? I thought it was a nightclub! (I think this is the eye-roll you were looking for Bosco.)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2vrv982.jpg)

Shouldn't this really be called the premiere-apart-from-the-times-the-chems-played-it-on-their-2017-DJ tour?

I'm not sure there's enough time for us Chems fans to rush to Poland in order to experience this sort-of-premiere tonight. But if it involves dancing in a big Tron grid it might be worth the effort.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0wlwZCWkAIohZH.jpg)
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Enjoyed on Mar 03, 2019, 22:51
Umm... You guys... I'm pretty sure my brother is there right now. I just messaged him. He's in Poland for a CS:GO tournament, which I think is the same thing.

The logo at the bottom by the Virgin one is for a team called Fnatic. They're a EU team. I know them from competitive League of Legends, where they reached the final of the World Championship last year (I know Bosco, I'm the problem).

I'm honestly pretty giddy at the connection. I've gotten really into eSports over the last year, following my team getting all the way to semis at the World Championship from a gauntlet run after we were knocked out of a spot in the summer split.

The Fnatic team, just for a little bit of largely unwanted information, are currently having a terrible time in the EU championship. They had, what many now consider, the best mid-laner in the world on their team, but he left to another team who has been completely stomping this split. So they're in the pits. And having lost the top performer (who I really enjoyed watching) I have to say it's been pretty fun seeing them loose. They have a super cocky team member who is always claiming he is a world champion and that he works harder than everyone else but then he shits the bed when it comes down to it. He's outclassed. Anywho, just a little aside.

What is it that makes you feel sick about people becoming popular as a result of their streaming personality, Bosco? I know there are a lot of pretty gross, mean, toxic people who unfortunately gain a following as a result of them streaming a popular game, but there's also a whole tonne of really talented, nice, entertaining streamers who provide hours of content for free (assuming you don't pay them anything, which I don't). I watch one of the guys on my favourite team, Cloud 9, stream almost every night. For multiple hours. He's fun. Super good at the game. And there's something about watching something in real time that feels super connecting for me. I don't know, maybe I'm just a boring loser. But I look forward to games every weekend, watch people stream throughout the week, and play the game when I have time at home. I think I said before, it's like being able to watch a match/game of your favourite sport, every hour. Basically non-stop if you really want.

Thems me thoughts anyway.

Pretty sure my brother is asleep but I'm trying to reach him to find out if he heard it.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: MIKL on Mar 04, 2019, 08:39
Quote from: Bosco on Mar 03, 2019, 21:07

Regarding esports and online streamers...

::)

Guys, I like video games but the success of networked competitive gaming, and turning video games into a streaming event which then turns video game streaming hosts into celebrity, makes me sick. I suppose this is one of those "old man yells at cloud" moments...


If you like some street art. Theres a self proclaimed 'meme street artist' from OZ who takes the piss out of popular culture and internet culture whenever he can. He was invited by Banksy to contribute to his Dismaland exhibit. This pewdiepie guy who has a ridiculous amount of online popularity and is a gamer. This is what humanity's culture has come to.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: MIKL on Mar 04, 2019, 08:41
just had to add one more.. Probably should've added it to the gaming thread instead of spamming it here.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: Enjoyed on Mar 04, 2019, 10:07
Quote from: MIKL on Mar 04, 2019, 08:39

If you like some street art. Theres a self proclaimed 'meme street artist' from OZ who takes the piss out of popular culture and internet culture whenever he can. I believe he was invited by Banksy to contribute to his Dismaland exhibit. I believe this guy who has ridiculous amount of online popularity is a gamer. This is what humanity's culture has come to.

The irony of a guy who calls himself a 'meme street artist' while "taking the piss" out of popular culture is not lost on me. And he's basically just giving Pewdiepie more publicity.
0/10 for execution.
Title: Re: New tracks recap
Post by: ThePumisher on Jun 03, 2019, 13:13
So here is my review of No Geography. I thought i give it a couple of spins before, because, you know, sometimes you are not very into a record at first hearing but after listening to it several times it starts growing.

Small summary at the beginning: It has grown

What i have to say is that i review most of the tracks released around No Geography, including the Japan bonus tracks, the instrumentals from the 3LP version and the Free Yourself instrumental. Excludes are the Remixes, Neeeeum and the tracks from the Essential Mix.


Eve Of Destruction
Not a bad song, but also not their best "first track" (ok, it's hard to beat Leave Home, Block Rockin' Beats, Music:Response, Come With Us & Snow). I like the vocals of Aurora on this, and from what i've seen so far on the videos on youtube, Eve Of Destruction is a banger live (including those awesome visuals). What i definitely don't like are the vocals from Nene. Not that they are bad or this special part of the song is bad, but it doesn't fit into Eve Of Destruction - should have been a seperate track.

Bango
The transition from Eve Of Destruction to Bango is great, even though i'ts really simple. The track itself is also a nice listen, but far away from "the best track on the album" as some have said after those listening partys.

No Geography
This one is one the three songs on/from No Geography that i totally adore. Such a beautiful track, those vocal samples and this musical mix between modern electronic and big beat plus the transition from Bango - how can you not love this song? But i also have to agree with some of you => this should have been the last song on the album. A bit longer (not to long!) and track 10 - this could have been the final No Geography (album) had deserved.

Got To Keep On
From the released singles, this is the most "single" (except the video). I do like this, as song, as single, live (stunning visuals again), on the album - but it should have been replaced with another track...

Gravity Drops
The most discussed track on the album. I said before that it's not more than a b-side, but this is one of the "growers" on No Geography. Still not my favourite track, but i do enjoy listening to this (or, i won't skip it anymore).

Hi Kevin
So this is a masterpiece (even though there are still three tracks that i love more). The music, the vocals, the lenght, the everything. One thing: am i the only one who get some Hold Tight London vibes when listening to this?

We've Got To Try
Released as the last single (as by now) with an awesome video. Nice track, nothing more, nothing less. I think there are other songs from the No Geography era that you will talk about in 10 years.

Free Yourself
First single (best video from the No Geography era), released months before the release of No Geography. And maybe that is the point of this song. This one is really good (that breakbeat-part especially), but for now i can't listen to it anymore. If it would not have the transition into MAH, this would be my "skip track".

MAH
So here is Mad As Hell. That kicks butt. Best track on No Geography. Everything said.

Catch Me I'm Falling
The last 'regular' track on the album. In this version, i would love to have No Geography as an closer instead of Catch Me I'm Falling, but have no idea where it could find a place on the album if it wasn't the last track.

Fantai
The third one from "the three songs on/from No Geography that i totally adore". As you all know this is an alternative or remixed version of Got To Keep On. I understand why they've choosen Got To Keep On above Fantai for the album, but i don't understand why it is just a bonus track for just one country (nothing against you japanese people, i love you and your country). Instead it should have been released as a b-side or as an Electronic Battle Weapon (because it has this special EBW feeling) or both. Also i would count this as number 3 on a journey that started with Don't Think, travelled over C.H.E.M.I.C.A.L. and now takes a stop here. Don't ask me why, but in my opinion those three tracks could have been from the same writing session.

MAH (EBW Version)
See, MAH and Fantai => "best track" and "I understand why they've choosen Got To Keep On MAH above Fantai MAH (EBW Version)"

Got To Keep On (Extended)
As you may remember, above i've said Got To Keep On should have been replaced with another track - here is this track. It's nearly 2 minutes longer, and somehow now it has the proper lenght to get the attention on the album it deserves.

Hi Kevin (Instrumental)
Short verdict: as an instrumental it sounds funny, but it's the version with Aurora that gets the points.

Catch Me I'm Falling (Instrumental)
So this one is complicated. Withouth the vocal samples it sounds so pure, but also more grown up. If they had choosen the instrumental version as last track instead of the one with those vocals, this could have been the perfect ending for No Geography and i wouldn't say anymore that No Geography (song) should have been the last track.

Eve Of Destruction (Instrumental)
Nice listen, but i would follow up the one who said that it is interesting they've let the vocals from Nene in there. But as with the Hi Kevin instrumental, the album version with vocals gets the points.

Free Yourself (Instrumental)
Still wanna know where this came from. As for the song itself, i get the same feelings like with the vocaled version.