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Oh thank goodness!

What is the cost of making people abide do you think? The financial cost of having people employed to turn people away at stores if guidelines aren't being followed? Or the human cost of trying to tell people to do something they wont, which is futile and ultimately a time waste, and an emotional drain on anyone having to do it?
We're very lucky in Oregon, certainly in the city of Portland, that basically everyone follows the rules. The anti-maskers are very, very much in the minority and, as a result (I assume), the state has the third lowest number of deaths (and cases, I believe) in the country. Do you think there's a better solution out there that would help everyone? Or is your point more that it's kind of too late to try and change the behaviours of those people and better time and effort could be spent into other solutions (like the rush vaccine, or this new potential nose spray thing)?


The cost would be three-fold. The employment of policing, the cost of convincing of people who will relentlessly resist, and the litigation factor of defining the legal definition of "what is a violation?" (which will be countlessly challenged).

Policing public mask-wearing should have been mandated as a "state of emergency" from our government at the start of pandemic. That did not happen. CEO's of corporate "essential good" stores failed as well. They should have privately taken the step of hiring rent-a-cops to police mask wearing in-store. This did not happen (or at least in my area).

So yeah, my point is it's too late. I don't foresee the Biden campaign bringing any better solutions to the pandemic than what Trump was providing at this point. The Biden campaign's attitude will be more attentive and more sympathetic to the public, but they will be desperately chasing a vaccine just like Donald was.





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Yeah. Fair enough! Thanks for sharing.

The fact that there is STILL no single body to report violations to (social distancing and gatherings, too) is utterly ridiculous. I guess I was being close-minded and rather head-in-the-clouds with hope that Biden would be able to quell some of the spread in some way. But I think you're right. The states where masks are still not mandated, and schools are open, and concerts and large gatherings are still happening, aren't suddenly going to listen to the new president they didn't vote for. Maybe there's hope that some of the right that is now trying to distance themselves from Mr. Trumpers will have a more tempered and humanitarian approach to it? In an effort to claw back some of the support they lost by supporting him in the first place? Probably not.
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Trying not to pay attention to the results until we actually know.  I just buried my dad, so my anxiety can't take it.  I also can't take much more of people who aren't doing the bare fucking minimum to stop spreading the very thing that killed my father.  This shit went nowhere, but our sanity, comprehension of basic science, and any compassion for others skipped town.

So sorry to hear that.
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A little dramatic but overall...yes.
https://twitter.com/AmarAmarasingam/status/1327301202825121793

Also I was amused that Giuliani went ahead with a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping despite the fact that they clearly booked the wrong venue.
Not as amused as this lady. But pretty amused.
https://twitter.com/SiobhanBenita/status/1325715273647878144



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Oh what a beautiful rant. I wish I could be angry so eloquently. Also, I don't find it overly dramatic. Even after four years, I'm still shocked that somebody like Trump, with his complete disregard and ignorance of democratic principles, his unwillingness to govern for anyone but himself, his brazen corruption and nepotism, his overt racism and sexism, could become a candidate for a presidency, let alone win an election in an alleged free democracy. I'm incredilby glad that he will be gone soon.
The sad thing is that the system and structures which enabled him in the first place are still there.

Oh, the Four Seasons Total Landscaping incident was hilarious!


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Oh, the Four Seasons Total Landscaping incident was hilarious!

Also I was amused that Giuliani went ahead with a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping despite the fact that they clearly booked the wrong venue.

Whenever I'm feeling down (reading too much Reddit, remembering that almost 50% of this country voted for another 4 years of destruction, knowing that an absolutely insane number of people think this election was fraudulent despite LITERALLY 0 EVIDENCE) I think of this utterly hilarious fuck up. On that Saturday a friend was sending me meme after meme about the whole situation. It's glorious. It brings me much joy. A press conference between a funeral home and a sex shop, because Trump and his lying cronies should all go fuck themselves and die  :))
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Oh what a beautiful rant.

Well in that case you might like this. I realise Norton is just an actor, but woah, this 7-tweet thread seems to have some resonance.
Do Americans think Trump will be prosecuted for tax avoidance (or other stuff) once he stops being President, or is that just tribal talk?

https://twitter.com/EdwardNorton/status/1329728890143576070
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