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Samples & Trainspotting

Started by Wolkenkrabber, Apr 01, 2017, 12:37

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Following on from my post #75, another track that samples Bulgarian choral vox has emerged, brand new for 2023.

Argy & Goom Gum - Pantheon


It could do with a remix to toughen up the production for my personal taste, but I really like how they've used the vox.



I notice that Le Mystere des Voix Bulgares -who seem to be a long running choir (presumably with members who change over time) did a full KEXP session in 2017.

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Quote from: Wolkenkrabber on Aug 13, 2022, 11:07
Incidentally the Chems remix of Voodoo People also samples the track below at 2:12. I guess Boogie Down Productions have been a long time Chemical favourite, as their JIMMY would hugely influence CHEMICAL (writing credit given) many years later.



Just picking up on your comment about CHEMICAL, I vaguely recall an early (live?) version that used samples of "The C, the H..." and so on, from the beginning of It Gets No Rougher by LL Cool J...



Obviously the samples were rearranged in much the same way as those on Super Sharp Shooter by DJ Zinc. But I assume the samples were dropped for the official release (because LL Cool J said no perhaps?) and Tom and Ed used their own vocal artist instead?

I like these sort of videos. This one is broken into sections. There's a Daft Punk Section, a Vampire Weekend/Radiohead section, a Moby section - where he samples strings and plays them backwards (hmm, that sounds like a familiar theme at the moment). Oh and there's a Beatles section. Yes the fab four are kinda 'accused' of sampling Spanish guitar (via melotron) at the start of one of their own songs. And Strawberry Fields gets a mention too! I would probably skip over the advertising section at 4:49 though.



After the Melotron and before the Akai sampler, there was the Fairlight CMI. Don't be put off by Bruno Mars here!
We get: the original Stravinsky performance of THAT orchestral hit. NWA, Peter Vogel - the inventor of the Fairlight. His copy of the Stravinsky record that he sampled to the Fairlight. Herbie Hancock with David Letterman, Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush, Afrika Bambaataa, Duran Duran, New Order and even The Smiths.

I think Yes's Owner Of A Lonely Heart was the first track I noticed that ORCH sound on, as a child. Whenever I heard it after that, I assumed that the other artists had nicked it from Yes. But No!



EDIT: if you liked that Fairlight video, here's a longer one with more Letterman/Hancock and Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush.
Last Edit: Apr 09, 2023, 19:32 by Wolkenkrabber
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I may be mistaken, but I believe I've identified the original break sample used in "Life is Sweet Remix 1".
Specifically, the drum roll at 0:21 in the track bears strong resemblance to that used in "Life is Sweet Remix 1".

Quote from: Bosco on Oct 24, 2022, 07:08
Egyptian Empire - The Horn Track. That is crazy good!

New jungle/D&B take on this for 2023 just uploaded to YT this weekend.
Sounds like they sampled Egyptian Empire directly (rather than Rattling Ghosts), as you can hear the sample from Human League's Love Action which is also in the EE track.

LMAJOR - Hornz
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This thread's been dormant for 11 months? I must be slipping...

Looking back in the Archive, I haven't yet spotted any discussion of "As Heard On Radio Soulwax Pt2", although I have noticed mention of "Here Come The Drums" dating back to 2003. Crumbs! When did that title first get bandied around??

Anyway when I first threw the above mentioned 2ManyDJs mix CD on my stereo back in 2002/03, I remember hearing what was surely a snippet of Out Of Control on there. I checked the CD box only to find that the track listing mentioned no such thing.

Jump to 9:37 in the video below. (The track before it has been muted, I think because it contains an unauthorsed sample of Prince's Kiss. The un-muted version of the video is available on Vimeo)


Instead, the tracklist seemed to mention "The O Medley" by Bobby O. Hmm, wasn't he the guy who produced the Pet Shop Boys back in their early days?
Yes he was! His early recording of West End Girls with PSB was released as a flop single before Neil & Chris got a new record deal and re-recorded their music.

All the PSB/Bobby O stuff can be found on a YT video
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And if you want to hear more about that story, there's a BBC documentary due to be broadcast tonight at 22:30 UK time, i.e now (for the second time this week) called Pet Shop Boys: Then and Now. Or view it on iPlayer here. VPNs may be required.

Anyway that "O Medley" is of course, a medley of Bobby O's tracks. So the bit that sounds like OOC is a specific track called She Has A Way.



And of course this track pre-dates OOC. So I think it's safe to say that the Chems 'sampled' this track. In fact I reckon WhoSampled used to have this listed as a direct sample, but at the moment it doesn't have it listed as any kind of sample, even though to my mind, that OOC riff is clearly an "interpolation" or recreation of the Bobby O riff.

Whilst thinking about this (and thinking about Don't Fight Control following recent forum discussion), I found myself listening to Enjoyed (The B-side rather than the forum member). Sometimes when Enjoyed pops up randomly on my music player, I think, "Oh, it's the Biff & Memphis remix of Touched By The Hand of God",
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and then a few seconds later, I realise: "oh no it isn't."
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I guess this intro is quite similar to Music Response, but I think it's even more similar to the New Order track. Not quite a direct sample but surely an influence? Otherwise it wouldn't keep fooling me...would it?

And finally...

On the subject of the New Order influence, you know those scrambled bleeps we get at the end of the main body of a Chems gig, like in BenJ's video here around 0:09?


I used to think this was inspired by anther source, but I now reckon it sounds incredibly similar to the noises in this New Order track at 3:57. Thoughts anyone?

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I have 'She Has a Way' in my mp3 collection with the comments reading "Chemical Brothers Samples (Out of Control)" and a 'Date Added' of 4/6/13 -  so I'm definitely inclined to say that this was somewhat known. By who? Not sure. But I certainly agree that the OOC riff seems quite likely influenced by it.

Also, man, what a fucking good song to be named after. Go me!
dancesoitallkeepsspinning

https://www.whosampled.com/sample/515459/The-Chemical-Brothers-Saturate-Dave-Vanian-Morgan-Fisher-Night-Touch/

:o :o :o

Has this been a well-known for a long time? I'm shocked. I always thought it was played/recorded on synths by T&E themselves and processed through some filters.
Hi Kevin!

Quote from: Explud on Aug 15, 2024, 14:05
https://www.whosampled.com/sample/515459/The-Chemical-Brothers-Saturate-Dave-Vanian-Morgan-Fisher-Night-Touch/

:o :o :o

Has this been a well-known for a long time? I'm shocked. I always thought it was played/recorded on synths by T&E themselves and processed through some filters.


Holy smokes! I didn't know that one.
That's Dave Vanian, lead singer of punk band The Damned.

I wouldn't have imagined anything by The Damned or by one of their members appearing as an electronic music sample.
The Damned's track "Life Goes On" was 'sampled' in Killing Joke's "Eighties", which in turn was 'sampled' in Nirvana's Come As You Are. That sort of Rock connection is more the sort of thing I would expect from him/them.

It's a good spot. 
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Very cool.

In good company when Madlib samples the same source.

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